68% say No

The vote over an Alternative Voting system in the Uk has delivered a resounding NO to change.

More than two thirds of people voted to keep the first-past-the-post system in what was the first UK-wide referendum for 36 years.

With the count 85 per cent complete, the No to AV campaign passed the crucial figure of 9.87million votes at 7.41pm on Friday night to secure victory.

It was a boost to David Cameron who had campaigned hard for a No vote and a blow to Nick Clegg, who had made a referendum on voting reform a condition of the Coalition deal which is this week one year old.

Here in New Zealand we also get a say on our voting system on November 26. Like the UK we need to reject MMP. We can’t trust the politicians to reform MMP, it must be rejected.

UK Labour’s leader is being pilloried for vociferously supporting the Yes campaign.

Ed Miliband did see his party win in Wales, but Labour was humiliated in Scotland and just managed to break through the 800 gains barrier in council elections that was deemed the benchmark for even modest success.

The Conservatives said Mr Miliband’s first test as party leader produced a worse result than Michael Foot achieved in 1981.

The Labour leader was also personally associated with the abject failure of the Yes campaign which is reeling from the country devastating verdict on the Alternative Vote.

I wonder if Phil Goff will die in a ditch supporting MMP?


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  • jabba

    Phil has run out of ditches

  • Mr Blobby

    Based on previous results, anti smacking referendum, it should be binding.
    Reduce the number of MP’s to 100, remove race based seats while recognising that maori have special needs.
    Bring democracy back to Auckland City with only elected people voting on Auckland issues.
    But who in politics today would have the fortitude required to potentially vote themselves out of a job?

    • lcmortensen

      Consider these first
      * Today we have the same number of people per MP as we did in 1993. We have increased from 3.6m to 4.4m.
      * Maori seats were designed so Maori could have representation under an FPP system – the Royal Commission on the Voting System in 1986 proposed that once MMP was implemented, Maori seats would be removed. Of course, National buggered that one up beautifully.

  • Mr Blobby

    Sorry I forgot limit MP’s to 2 terms so it is more about public service than a career choice. With an additional 2 terms for prime ministers. So the fools know when it is time to leave.

  • thor42

    I like STV as a voting system. It lets *the voters* rank the candidates and you can vote for as many or as few as you like.

  • reid

    I’d like MMP to go but it’s extremely difficult to get rid of. It creates so many vested interests across the whole spectrum and they market it as if their survival depends on it which of course, it does.

    I wonder whose idea it originally was to attempt to implement it here. Thinking back there was no real information on what it was, just that FPP was bad cause of Muldoon and then, in some people’s minds, also Douglas. That was it, really, in terms of motivation. But it was from launch time much more heavily promoted than any of the other options and of course someone was doing that, it didn’t just happen accidentally.

    That’s precisely why Peter Shirtcliffe did what he did and good on him. Someone had to put some balance back into it and Peter you did a very good job. Thanks. The fact he had to do it at all indicates how heavily the other side had been promoted.

    Who was that someone, is what I’d like to know.

  • Mr. Infinity

    Fingers crossed for the same result here.

  • lcmortensen

    @Whale – you are confusing AV and AMS – or as they are know here, PV and MMP. AV is FPP except you rank the candidates and they need 50%+1 to win (like single-member STV).