Whaleleaks – Goff keeps on lying

Phil Goff gave an interview on bFM where he lied about the ECE/NZEI email harvesting.

He said:

PHIL GOFF: ….But on the other thing on the website, yeah, that sort of thing happens, regretfully the National Party was involved in gaining information from that system, it’s not actually confidential information, it was a petition that people had signed about early childhood education, and it was some donations to the party in regard to the Stop Asset Sales campaign, but you know, obviously Whaleoil was threatening to divulge private information, I think the party, the National Party, although it’s been two hours downloading it from our site, warned them off from doing that.

Where do I start. The information was confidential information. We know this because the NZEI has complained to Labour about it. Labour had no right to that information, they stole it from the petition results. If they didn’t steal it then it was given to them by the NZEI, in which case they harvested the details themselves and passed it to Labour. Since Phil Goff doesn’t think that all those signatures and emails aren’t confidential then perhaps I should just publish the two csv files full of teachers email addresses that they left lying around on the internet. (Just so Phil knows what I am taking about the files are called ece_postcards_d621c508caeee97e4a6adcb6445be714.csv and ece_postcards_9ebd3c5a3c97643dd445657547546cf2.csv . Go ahead Phil check to see if the NZEI wants those files put on the internet, again)

The petition was in the form of a postcard. Here it is:

ECE Postcard

Nowhere on that postcard, either side, is any suggestion your personal information is going to be stolen by Labour, or even given to them. The campaign isn’t a Labour party campaign and for Phil Goff to suggest that it is is yet another lie.

If Phil Goff doesn’t think donation information to a political party is confidential information then lord knows what he thinks is. But then again this is a man who lied about a comment by Don Brash in a private meeting with US officials.

Does he not know that Whaleoil, is me, it is not them. He should know, he refused to come on Close Up with me once. For the record and becasue Phil Goff would rather lie, the National party has not been in contact with me about this information, either before I broke the story nor after. As if I would listen to their advice anyway. He obviously hasn’t been checking out the smears by Trevor Mallard that says I am in the pay of Don Brash and the Act Party now. The two contentions of Labour can’t both be right.

I didn’t release the confidential inforamtion because this is not about the struggling person who donated $6.60 to Labour, it is about the fact that they allowed me and god knows how many other people to gain their information, including DoB information, 18,000 emails and 450 odd donations.

Labour can talk all they like to the Privacy Commissioner, they are the ones in breach not me.

The hilarious thing is that Phil Goff, in trying to smear National, tells the world that they let their opponents access their site for more than two hours.

Of course I was in their database and site for much longer than that, over several months. That doesn’t seem to matter a bit to Labour.

Phil Goff and Labour, from Chris Flatt and Moira Coatsworth chave handled and continue to handle this in the most apalling way. They show no contrition and prefer instead to lie and spin. There is no one else to blame for this huge breach of privacy other than themselves.

Well, we will just have to see what else comes out of the files I have won’t we.


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  • gazzaw

    Goff’s attitude is bloody outrageous but just smacks of the arrogant culture passed on by the previous administration. Your big problem WO is getting some decent coverage of this scandal in the mainstream media. TV1 and TV3 are unlikely to cover the story in detail as it isn’t a message that suits either station editorially. Coverage in the print media has been negligible to date given the serious underlying issues.

    • thor42

      Agreed. One of the big problems, of course, is that the leftard MSM are so far up Labour’s arse that Goof could bugger a dog in Lambton Quay and the media would take no notice.

  • peterwn

    gazzaw – Last week’s earthquake knocked Cam off prime time TV. At least the print media are naming Cam aka whaleoil. In the circumstances his publicity ‘traction’ is not too bad. In the next few months, I would expect to see a book published called ‘The Flatt Men’.

    • gazzaw

      I appreciate the timing of the earthquake had an effect particularly with TV & let’s hope the latest expose on Goff’s attitude shakes them out of their fixation with the latest status on the portaloos in Bexley. I won’t hold my my breath though.

  • spiker

    I guess if there are no consequences it’s easy to lie & spin..

  • thor42

    The ideal situation would be to get Goof and co in court. See if they can be made to lie *then*. It’d be great to see a perjury charge slapped on them. What a pity that the Clark-beast and Michael “rich prick” Cullen were never put in the dock and “sent down” for a few years.

  • reid

    This is how propaganda works. They come up with a meme and spin it, the bigger the lie, the more they tell it. If they didn’t do it, Liarbore as a political party would not exist.

    This is why I have called them Liarbore for years.

    What needs to happen, is to do something, leave a deliberate clue, let them develop a meme, then right about now in the middle of the whole meme-spin, blow it straight out of the water.

    That makes them gun shy next time, lets them know you know and that you may or may not be doing it again next time they’re working up their little lies and most importantly, stops those swinging voters toward whom the meme is aimed – those who are neutral and don’t have strong feelings either way, from ever approaching Liarbore again for no-one especially not a swinging voter, likes to be made to feel like an idiot and if they’ve just finished explaining to their workmates how evil it was that National stole all that data and then they’re made to look a fool, they’ll be National voters for a long, long time.

    Standard political marketing tactics. Disappointing isn’t it but I repeat, if you can get Liarbore a really good hit on something in this way, they will back away from their lies and memes for a long long time and then we’ll see, those of us who don’t already know, how few clothes the emperor really is wearing.

  • pwebb

    But Whale you lie all the time if you think there is political advantage.

    For instance you claimed that you had credit card details from your hack of the Labour server and you did not.

    You also made a fraudulent video and pretended it was real. Remember this? http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/index.php/2010/09/nice-try-but-wrong-again/

    If it is so bad for Goff to supposedly lie why is it good for you?

    • I’m not standing for parliament, and i’m not wanting to be PM.

      Calling me a liar and doing it at my place is just rude. You can take a chill in the pit.

    • tooright

      Pee you’re up after the watershed again. This is for grown ups.

  • lulu

    Don’t send PWEBB to the bin. Let him try and defend his position so we can confirm what a one eyed bile driven pinko he is.
    Hey PWEBB, I read that September 2010 post. It doesn’t support your “fraudulent video” claim. It refutes it. Can you only see something I can’t see because you are looking through one eye?
    And I didn’t think it had been established one way or another that WO has credit card details. Can you point to where WO confirms that?