Winston is upset, Good

Winston Peters is upset because John Key may have insulted his bewildered supporters who still think he is the messiah.

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters says National could face a backlash from older voters following speculation about comments John Key made in a secret tape recording.

I’ve always said that a good hard cold winter and a virulent dose of bird flu would solve the Peters problem.

I still wonder why journalists before even entertaining listening to New Zealand’s most corrupt politician, after Phillip Field, don’t ask when he plans to pay back the $158,000 his party still owes the taxpayer.

 


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  • Anonymous

    I put this on nz.general:
    Winston Peters – What does the tea tape mention about the elderly?

    Bradley Ambrose – What do you want it to mention?

    • Petal

      nz.general?  Is that still functional?  Must go look for nostalgia’s sake.  

  • Petal

    Peters’ supporters, not Peters, MAY be upset, IF they know something that Key MAY have said, that is still SPECULATION.

    I hate “news”.

    Of course,it is Peters that is doing the speculating.

    ……

    In other news, Goff’s supporters, MAY be upset, IF they know something that Key MAY have said, that is still SPECULATION.

    …….

    And co-incidentally, Brash’s supporters, MAY be upset, IF they know something that Key MAY have said, that is still SPECULATION.

  • Paul C

    Winston who is sitting around 4.5% and will likely hold the balance of power once again – the only responsible option available to the voters who wish to save NZ is to party Vote NZ First.
    To counter the rise of Winston National may be willing, under Keys stewardship, to enter a colation govt with Act, Maori and the Greens.  That is provided Act can get it up.
    The Greens would go with anyone who lets them sit at the grown ups table.
    In such a Left Right coalition everyone gets to win except the tax payer.

    • Petal

      Thanks Paul.  A bit of light relief was called for, and you stepped up.  Well done.

    • Honcho

      Thats my giggles for the morning, no collegehumour.com for me today.

  • Brian Smaller

    It is a fact that Winston is supported by a lot of old people, and it is a fact that as we age we tend to die off. And the problem with that analysis is…?

    • stateside

      It’s incredibly cynical, childish, and overall a pretty pathetic thing to say for a Prime Minister.

  • Luigi

    “..the only responsible option available to the voters who wish to save NZ is to party Vote NZ First.”

    Are you insane? The LAST thing NZ needs is to have the venal Peters back in Wellington. The BEST thing that could happen, is that Peters leaves the building entirely and takes NZF with him. But only after he sends the bucket around and raises the outstanding $158,000! 

     

  • Paul C

    With Winston holdiong the balacne of power it will be an excellent outcome and force National to consider a Left/Centre/Right Coalition (with Maori/Greens and Act) where National get to do not much and leave the dirty work to the willing minor parties.

    You could get everyone’s policy imperatives – Assets Sale with A CGT and the advance of the Emmission Trading Scheme.

    • Honcho

      I keep saying if CGT was to happen, it should have happened under clarks reign of destruction, along with a revision of tax evasive policies surrounding LAQC’s, which I would hope would have kept the property markets, with special reference to our largest centres, for the most part affordable.

      The same with a lot of labours current policies, I am against raising the retirement age, but if the labour party was truely serious, they would have installed it years ago, cutting of the age of entitlement for our currently ‘retiring’ baby boomer populace.

      Having the greens running our environmental policy, quite frankly scares me, I am of the belief that the way to keeping this country clean will be through cultural change, not through policy change, which I have seen is already happening.

      • Petal

        Probably the wrong place for it, but you said “I am against raising the retirement age”.

        You may need to qualify this, I understand, but this is a world-wide issue with a balloon of Baby Boomers applying an ever increasing burden on the tax take.

        I suppose that to balance leaving the retirement age as it is, you have an alternative to balancing the books?

        • Honcho

          Yeah way off topic, I am well aware of the issues surrounding this.

          The biggest issue is the huge chunk of baby boomers currently ‘retiring’, that is claiming their entitlement to super. There is a large number of those, my family included, who continue to carry on working and double dip.
          I agree that something needs to be done, but I am also left wondering if it doesnt resolve the issue above, then what exactly is the point.

    • Petal

      “Winston holding the balance of power”…

      Really?

      Look, if you wrote “NZ First holding the balance of power”… I could conceptually agree.  Because I think that some policy moderation caused by coalition and/or confidence and supply agreements is a good outcome for more people in a general sense.

      But when you propose that it is one specific person that should be the pivot in this fulcrum, then I invite you to consider that you are more into idolatry and less into seeing certain policy platforms implemented.
       

      • Paul C

        “I invite you to consider that you are more into idolatry and less into seeing certain policy platforms implemented.”

        Winston is all about “idolatry” and NZ First is the vehicle he travels in – you don’t mean to say you consider NZ First have a policy platform of any depth?

  • Jimmie

    With Winston holdiong the balacne of power it will be an excellent
    outcome and force National to consider a Left/Centre/Right Coalition
    (with Maori/Greens and Act) where National get to do not much and leave
    the dirty work to the willing minor parties.

    You could get everyone’s policy imperatives – Assets Sale with A CGT and the advance of the Emmission Trading Scheme.

    And what a frekin mess this country would end up in – More tax times 2. Oh and cars would be made illegal.

    Go backto square 1 Paul C methinks.

  • Heather Amos

    will leave the country if we end up with Labour/Greens/Winston………poor NZ…Heather

  • Paul C

    You will get a National/Green/Maori and perhaps Act Govt. 

  • Figaro

    I wonder if deep down Goof is actually sh*ting himself at the prosepct of leading a govt with Peters, the Greens & Hone.  He must know they wont be able to deliver anything they are promising, and he will still get rolled by Xmas.

  • Gary

    If the Greens hold the balance of power, they will go with Labour. If National are back in, then the Greens may come to an arrangement and have some representation which, while pissing off some of their support, will allow their leadership to make some policy gains. If this is the case, I doubt that National will give up much to accommodate them, rather that they will make concessions around the edges of policy.

    As for NZ First, they will never appear in a National-lead government and while Winston has said they will not go with Labour, I believe that like I believe Winston always tells the truth – not at all! Whatever might have been said over the cup of tea may upset Winston’s supporters as they are very focussed on themselves, but it sure won’t upset Winston as he must be ecstatic about the oxygen this has given him. He is able to get on TV all full of false indignation and give his opinion on the issue. Will it be enough to get over the 5%? That is the big question…

  • Agent BallSack

    Personally I dont believe National should make any deals with the Greens, it should be a N/M/UF Government, all John would be doing by inviting them in is legitimizing the loony fringe. AT least the Maori speak for a good percentage of the population, Greens – it *seems* like there is a lot of support but is that because the party is popular or the fact that most Greens are highly motivated politically and are just heard more. Sure we should care for the environment but there HAS to be a middle ground where the economy is as important.

  • Paulus

    At a Tauranga Sunday market the other day NZF had a stall extolling Winston’s virtues – sic.

    I asked the lady when they were going to pay back the money they stole from taxpayers, and she told me they had done so, and turned her back on me.

    Wow I never knew – how ignorant of me – as an elderly citizen I get confuse very easily, like this lady, but can usually understand bullshit still.

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