A good summary

 NewstalkZB

Blair Cunningham sums up David Shearer’s speech succinctly:

Cold water’s being poured on Labour leader David Shearer’s vision for the party.

He’s keen to keep the capital gains tax policy but not so keen on a tax free threshold.

Prime Minister John Key has labelled Mr Shearer’s speech underwhelming.

He says the reason most MPs come to Parliament would be the same.

“That kids get a decent education and we all live happy and healthy lives. We all have good, secure jobs, and we’re safe in our communities. Guess what? All 121 MPs probably think that. The issue is the ‘how’, and there’s absolutely no ‘how’ in that speech from David Shearer today.”

 


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  • LesleyNZ

    So why is the NZ Herald being so “understanding” and soft on David Shearer?
    Editorial: Little detail, but Labour makes a start http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10792400
    “Understandably enough, policy detail was largely absent from David Shearer’s first major speech as leader of the Labour Party. Three months is not enough to formulate such nitty-gritty. Yesterday’s address was about indicating the direction in which Mr Shearer plans to take his party. “

    •  Ummm three years to the next election…doesn’t want to burn himself out.

  • Grandstream

    I am guessing that the reason for the lack of “how” is dawning on Shearer this morning.  You have Greens and Labour saying “you cant do that, you cant mine there, you cant let capital in, cant sell that”, then in the next breath labour and Greens are saying “look how many people are leaving our shores for Australia and beyond”.  The lifestyle that the green and labour are working to protect would not exisit has it not been for mining, migration of capital, people and ideas over the last 100 years.  Ergo labour will continue to babble about vision and there will no substance of how to achieve it. 

    • Peter Wilson

      Comment of the day!

      I think (some) NZer’s are very naive. Energy would be another classic case. No coal, no more dams, idiots like Anton Oliver objecting to wind farms. Leaving us with little to consider but Nuclear Energy.

      I would argue it’s the lefties that are destroying our legacy “for future generations.” By being so blinkered and not living in the real world, it’s heading us for 3rd world status.

    • ConwayCaptain

      One of the problems with nuclear power in NZ is the frequency of earthquakes and that NZ is on a major fault line.

      There is a solution to this:  The nuclear powerstation is built on a ship and moored in a safe posn aqnd the vessel has its own propulsion so it can be moved.  If the vessel was moored offshore in deep water, 100mtrs + there would be no problems with being hit by tsunamis as in deep water they are only 50cm or so high.  They only become dangerous in shallow water.

      • Agent BallSack

        Japan has the same problems Captain, I have no problems with NZ learning from the lessons of the Fukoshima reactors, surely Waikato/National Park areas are acceptable distances from most naturally occurring disaster scenarios? Anyway NZ should use nuclear reaction to generate power, until we do we will go through this cyclical empty lakes, cut power nightmare. When we have to rely on coal powered Huntly ettc there is something wrong with our generation system. Mind you I don’t mind windmills either.

      • Engineer

         Use Thorium reactors, and build them inland, North of Auckland.  Problem solved.

      • Philip ure a cock

        I have been saying this for years!!!! Buy a decommissioned nuke aircraft carrier or some such ship and moor the bloody thing off Auckland. Problem solved. No bloody great pylons spanning the length of the country from the power sources of the south to serve Auckland. No need for windfarms, damming more rivers, smoking gas or coal etc etc. 

  • Bafacu

    I don’t think Shearer has the know-how to know how!

  • Salacious T Crumb

    Do you think that his comments on ensuring quality teachers comes about from the support he has seen national standards getting from parents?

    And is he the worst public speaker in the parliament?

    • Kosh103

      LMAO – support for NS, yeaaaaaaaaaaa in right wing dream land.

      • In Vino Veritas

        Funnily enough Kosh, as a school Trustee, the only comments I have heard from parents about National Standards (and there has been a lot), have been positive.

      • Kosh103

        Funny I have yet to hear a single postive comment on them from any parent from a number of schools.

        Some parents at a few schools in the area are unhappy as reports are now less parent friendly than preNS.

      • Agent BallSack

        National Standards are good. I’m a parent and my kids go to 2 different schools. What say you?

      • RightNow

        I support National Standards and I’m a parent. My wife is on the BoT of my son’s school and the board are all in favour of NS.

      • johnbronkhorst

        Labour idiots like you have been trying to paint national standards as something they aren’t. NS are an achievement level, something to aspire to and be measured against. They are not an action plan! Action plans come AFTER you understand and measure the situation. No wonder Shearers speech was so thin and devoid of ideas. He doesn’t understand the difference either KOSH.

      • johnbronkhorst

        Besides Kosh every open poll taken about NS has been supported at least 2-1 in favour of NS!!

      • Agent BallSack


        Some parents at a few schools in the area are unhappy as reports are now less parent friendly than preNS

        Care to elucidate Kosh? Last I heard NS were about measuring children against a set rule, determining their weaknesses and strengths and developing measures to address these. But if up your way it means being smacked in the nuts with a ruler when you enquire about your children’s wellbeing, I can see why some parents might be unhappy.

      • Philip ure a cock

        Ah, Koshy! Still got your head stuck up your mangina!

    • Jester

      The fact that you have been able to interact with parents from a number of schools only reinforces the fact that you are either nomadic in nature or can’t hold down a job in a single school.

  • Phar Lap

    Oh! Oh! “Dormouse” Shearer didn’t make many mistakes.Sounds like he was doing his driving test.FFS .Why dont the media tell the truth .He was awful,i suppose for him, to ease the squeeze,
    he gets a thousand dollars a day. 

  • Pete George

    A Scottish (ODT) description of it:

    “He delivered its
    feel-good assertions with about as much passion as a man
    eating cold porridge.”
    http://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/editorial/201574/softly-softly-jungle

  • Guest

    That kids get a decent education and we all live happy and healthy lives. We all have good, secure jobs, and we’re safe in our communities. Guess what? All 121 MPs probably think that

    Well I sure hope Banks doesn’t – or else what is the point of ACT?

    The point is that 5% of Kiwis deserve “good secure jobs” and being “safe in our communities” and a “decent” education (cos of course you can’t get that from a state school!).  They deserve it because they can pay for it. 

    Now: why the fuck should the 5% of high-value high-worth Kiwis have to pay for everything for everyone else in the country?

    The biggest lesson NZ needs to learn is that you don’t “deserve” anything until you’ve earned it. 
    And most of NZ are nothing but lazy bludgers who simply don’t pay their own way.  
    Only once people in NZ get only what they’ve paid for then there is some chance of NZ not following Greece.

    • Kosh103

      So I take it you are against poor people being educated by the public school system then.

  • In Vino Veritas

    I’ve read Shearer’s speech again. And it still makes me laugh when he refers to Esko Aho, Prime Minister of Finland 1991 – 1995. Aho led a centre right coalition, and their policy was cut and save (and they did it with some measure of brutality). Essentially the things that Labour rail against. Does this therefore mean that David Shearer and Labour support Nationals restructuring of Government departments? Or is he just picking out the bits that he likes, rather than the bits that actually rescued the country in a crisis?

  • Agent BallSack

    Is there a way we can get rid of these generic ‘Guest’ posts? Make it so if they don’t choose a name it defaults to their email address? Hard to tell who is whom when there’s a slew of guest posts per day.

  • johnbronkhorst

    So Mr Shearers speech, contained only 1 peice of substance. That Labour believe in New and higher taxes. Hence a CGT (new tax) and no tax cuts ($5000 threshold)….Is it not contradictory to say this is a NEW direction for labour! They have done this for DECADES!

  • AnonWgtn

    I cannot find that Labour supports anything !

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