Living the Kiwi Dream

Stuff.co.nz

You will many politicians saying that we have lost the ability to have the Kiwi dream. They manufacture misery, they pimp out poverty and then we get some news that proves that the Kiwi Dream is still available to those who want it…you just have to work for it.

This is a story of two suitcases, six years, one dream, and a family that could teach Kiwis a thing or two about saving for a house.

Ni Vung Bawi and his family arrived at Auckland airport on March 16, 2006, with only two suitcases to their name.

They arrived as refugees and, now, they have a place to call home.

Mr Bawi and his wife, Sung Hniang Sang, have worked six days a week since they arrived.

They put $75,000 away for a deposit and moved into their $345,000 weatherboard Motueka St home on March 16.

It was exactly six years to the day they arrived, after being persecuted for their Christian beliefs as part of the Chin community in Burma.

They are joined on the housing ladder by the Lian family, who arrived in 2007 and also bought their own home this year.

Nelson Refugee Services manager Gabrielle Humphreys said the Bawi and Lian families were among some of the agency’s first families to buy in Nelson.

“We are not sure how many have bought, but it is certainly not many. There are some families who have been here for 15 years that are off our radar,” she said.

Ms Humphreys said saving enough money for a down payment in such a short amount of time was a fantastic achievement.

“It is not something that happens much nationally. These families have taken advantage of [work opportunities], and are not afraid of working long shifts and often six days a week. Their work ethic and ability to save is awe- inspiring,” she said.

Now we just have to work out how to get the shiftless, lazy bludgers we are paying billions too each week to emulate these great new Kiwis. I’ll bet you a dollar to knob of goat poo that Ni Vung Bawi and his family don’t vote Labour….though Labour will expect them to.

 


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  • David

    And still the east European workers repair our quake damaged office (with very little English) , if they can make it half way around the world surely our hopeless government could ask a few of the great unwashed up north to do something productive down here.
    Who knows they could learn something too.

  • All hail the property owning democracy, err minus these insane rates in Auckland. At 26 got our first house down in the wild South Auckland (and its not a leaker either) (that being Janurary this year when we moved in too). Needs a bitmof comestic work but the structure is fine. Now 3 months later we have paid a decent chunk off the mortgage, got an HRV system put in and painted some rooms. Oh and we had no assistance in buying the house, just overtime and spending that was put under the electron microscope. Like the mentioned family above, its down to hard work, realistic expectations and the reward at the end of it.
    As Cam said, Living the Kiwi Dream

    • Brian Smaller

       Good on you.

    •  Good stuff Ben; sadly, too many people want the 3000 square foot brand new house right away, and don’t realise that you have to start somewhere and move your way up. My first home was a 1000 sq ft box, but despite the setback of a marital settlement I’m now (in my mid-50’s) living in the kind of property to which I always aspired but could only dream of. Working hard and prioritising how you spend your dosh is the key to it, and the family above seems to have it sorted.

    •  So explain again – what is the Kiwi dream? Owning a house? Come on……

      • Euan Rt

        Traditionally – the quarter acre paradise.

      • As it was said, the quarter acre paradise. Now it is owning your house with bit of land or an apartment rather than sinking dead money in rent. Your own home, free to do with it as you wish, your pride and joy. Cant say that about a rental.

  • Gazzaw

    We can’t have these Asian immigrant families arriving here and living the Kiwi dream by dint of hard work and thrifty living. What’s NZ coming to?

    Very little different to my parents and tens of thousands like them arriving from post-war UK & Europe on immigrant ships with barely a penny in their pockets back in the 50s. My father worked three jobs, my mother one and both dug the foundations of their first home two years after their arrival. They weren’t unique either. Xenophobia & envy was alive and well then too – ‘pommy bastard’ was said like they meant it.’  

  • Dear Phillip Ure

    If you read nothing else today, please read this story. It shows what can be achieved when someone sets their mind on working hard to get ahead, not choosing the beneficiary lifestyle, then moaning because one doesn’t get enough money for doing nothing.

    Kind regards etc…

    • starboard

      ” Phil “..yoo hoo Phil ” Strangely silent . No argument is there phool ya lazy sloth.
      Well done that immigrant family. They deserve all kudos. 

    • Mr_Blobby

      This is a good news story why did you bring that loser Phil the Whore into it.
      A dead beat druggy criminal who has never done anything to improve the lot of mankind. Is and always will be a net economic loss to the country with mounting debt he can never repay.
      An A grade Class 1 loser whose only concern is himself.

  • Imagine, people who have never had a handout from a government in their lives, come to New Zealand and are really motivated to work. Who’d have thunk it! 

    I always knew ours was a land of opportunities. Just sad that the people already here don’t want to take them, and prefer to blame the government for not creating enough jobs or give up at the first hurdle trying to find one. Stories like these blow the left-wing’s ideology totally out of the water. Nothing is holding you down if you work hard. There is no prevailing oppression. People do not need more state support.

    There are individuals, and there is opportunity.

  • ConwayCaptain

    Where I used to live on the N Shore a Vietnamese family took over a video store that closed down.  Installed the necessary equipment and opene a bakery/lunch bar.  Everyone said it wouldnt work as they were away from any area with the necessary number of people wanting sarnies/rolls/pies etc.

    Well they are thriving, open at 0600 or so and there is a constant flow of customers for their product.  Their pies (traditional Vietnamese fare!!!!) are great.

    Close by a Halal butchery whose ,meat is fantastic and also numerous Chinese vege shops.  some good some not so good.

    •  Vietnamese for some reason have done very well in the bakery business. Their premises are generally spotless, and their food is by and large excellent.

      • Gazzaw

        The Vietnamese are brilliant bakers. One of the few benefits of having been a French colony. If you ever go to Vietnam treat yourself to croissants and coffee in one of the sidewalk cafes in Saigon. The best this side of Paris!

    • Joes

      Too true.  I don’t get the reference to Vietnamese Pie’s though.  One of my friends was born & raised in Saigon and did not have any pies until NZ. I do wounder how the world has such shit pies, yet seem to make great ones when they are in NZ. Confusing.

  • unitedtribes

    If they both worked 50 weeks and 8hr days @ $15 per hr for the 6 years  they could have achieved this by saving about $2.50 per hr. Less than 20% of their wages. Not bad effort really.

  • Mrbadger

    This is in sharp contrast to the 11 Somalis bitching and moaning about their too small state house that they taken over without permission. Maybe we can swop the purple people for some hard working Burmese?

    • STEVE AND MONIQUE

      Send the ungratefull squatters back where they came from.Assholes!

      • thor42

        I agree. 
        You will never see a more **ungrateful**, scowling, surly, lazy and **arrogant** lot than Muslims, and the Somalis are the worst of the lot. Very few exceptions to the rule.
        Muslims are the same all over the world. They come into Western countries, go straight onto welfare and never come off it. They also (of course) demand separate this, separate that for themselves. 

      •  Racism – alive and doing well here I see….

      • STEVE AND MONIQUE

        Hey if you dont like the country who has taken you in,giving you more in life then the shithole you lived in,then you should be over the moon.Not fucking whinging.Somali,or whoever,dont like it leave.Not racist,just fact.

    • Mully
  • STEVE AND MONIQUE

    .Good on them for doing what most of the hand out mentality bludgers,and so called idigenous people of this land have yet to figure out.You have to work hard to get ahead,not just expect it to fall in your lap,and whinge when is does not.Get a job you lazy bastards.

  • ConwayCaptain

    Where these people come from there is no “social welfare” so they know they have to work hard.  Our lower echelons think that it is their right to have state handouts and live in a state house for5 0 years and then complain when the owner, us, wants to sell at a good porice and then be able to build 2 or 3 houses with the proceeds.

    What has to be done is to change the “social welfare” to what it was meant to be a “hand up” not a “hand out”.  Would be interesteing to see what work these people did in Nelson.

  • George

    I built my first house myself, my mates helped, I helped them build theirs.  I’m not a tradesman.  We paid for it as we went. My wife pitched in and we had no holidays as others did, it was always a chance to do some more work on the house. 35 years later it still stands solid, leakproof and charming.  People took inspiration from the likes of Norm Kirk who even made his own concrete blocks and laid them.  Now even tradesmen are finding it difficult negotiating their way through the regulatory mire to build a house.  People like me are absolutely prevented from building.

    Half of this country is employed placing difficulties in front of the other half.

    I salute the resolution of all like this Burmese couple and I welcome them as Kiwis. They are the stuff of which our first pioneers were made.  NZ is richer for them.

    •  You’re not allowed to say nice things about Labour politicians here I’ve found – but I couldn’t  agree more with you about Big Norm…..miss his like on either side of the house.

  • AzaleaB

    One thing that really irritates me is when people say “you are so lucky” when they visit my home. No luck involved – just sheer bloody hard work, good saving ethic and a desire not to be owned by the banks. While they go out every weekend and drink lattes and buy rubbish they don’t need, we are working on the property ( small farm). From the house to the paddocks – we do it all…built it, landscaped it, tend it, fence it and so on. It is worth it – a little bit of paradise. But don’t tell me it’s luck. Started out poor….doing ok now. Living the dream? You bet!

    It is all about attitude and determination.

    • fifibelle

      Yep, the harder I work, the “luckier” I get…

  • Blokeintakapuna

    Good on the refugee’s that picked themselves up, dusted themselves off and just got on with improving their today for a better tomorrow. Complete admiration for them here.

    Mind you – I do hear that all refugee’s once awarded refugee status are then given a $10,000 lump sum from WINZ as well as all the benefits everyone else unemployed wiht a family are entitled to… yet, as a self employed tax payer for nearly 30 years, I am unable to get a cent of assistance from the government for my failing ill health – unless I completely close my business down and go on the unemployed benefit…

    Good on the refugees who have obviously been through hell and came out the other side – but what about government help for the self-employed who suffer medical conditions enough to stop them being able to fully work, but aren’t ill enough to completely close down a business just to get some financial assistance during very challenging times in one’s life?

    Where is the fairness?…

    •  bloke-in-taka..re yr health..

      ..can i suggest no alcohol..and a high-quality vegan diet..?

      ..i am not saying it is a cure-all..’

      ..but at the very least it frees yr body up from the daily/ongoing task/burden of having to digest/breakdown/expel flesh/cheese etc..

      ..all the bodies’ energies can then go into repairing yr body..

      ..i can just repeat the visual evidence i have seen..

      ..people of quite advanced years..in glowing good health..

      ..walking ‘evidence’ that is hard to ignore/dismiss.

      ..(and role-models for me..)

      (if daunting…you cd do it in stages..alternate days to begin with..

      ..and for resources..google ‘gourmet vegan’..and you will be spoiled for choice..

      ..the vegan category at whoar also has over 1500 entries/links..so should be able to answer any other questions you may have..)..

      ..ill health sucks..

      ..you have my sympathy..

      [email protected]

      •  (more info for taka..)

        What he did not account for was how much energy our bodies use up to
        digest and process different foods. We have to work much harder to
        digest dense, fibrous foods and those high in protein, right from the
        initial process of chewing, through to the reactions that go on in the
        stomach and colon.

         “What we know from the new science,” says Zoe
        Hellman, WeightWatchers’ UK dietitian, “is that it takes calories to
        digest calories. Foods that are rich in protein and fibre actually take
        more calories to digest than fat and carbohydrates.”

        The Atkins and the Dukan diets are
        famously effective for the same reasons, but now we understand more
        about why protein is such a good diet food – because it fills us up, and
        because we have to work hard to digest it.

        http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/features/which-foods-make-you-fatter-7601048.html

        [email protected]

      • Blokeintakapuna

        Phil –  I wonder if your food taste’s like bull shit? Because you seem to spout it when you know absolutely nothing about me, or my situation, or my diet, or my health – but one shouldn’t argue with an idiot – least people can’t tell the difference.

        All i’ll say is no wonder the majority of the regulars here think you’re a total waste of oxygen and space on the planet. You should go back to the village you left as they’re missing their idiot! Stop wasting valuable broadband.

      •  Phil U..re yr health..

        ..can I suggest getting a job..?

        It’s certainly never done me any harm, I can tell you that. Not depending on the taxpayer for my daily bread is one of the most liberating of things. You should try it; you might even come to like it

        ..eh..?

      • unitedtribes

        Can the body actually live like this. I prefer a ballanced diet myself. After a couple of beers a good chardonnay, some good Danish cheese, then later tonight a rabbit and mushroom pie. Shot the rabbit off the front lawn couple days ago. This keeps me in good spirits. Everyone to their own though.

      • Mr_Blobby

        This is a good news story why did you bring that loser Phil the Whore into it.
        A dead beat druggy criminal who has never done anything to improve the lot of mankind. Is and always will be a net economic loss to the country with mounting debt he can never repay.
        An A grade Class 1 loser whose only concern is himself.

  • Cadwallader

    Best and most positive post this year to date. I wager the Standard wouldn’t post it.

    •  sheesh..!..bloke..it was only a suggestion..

      ..if you prefer..

      ..go soak yr body in animal fat…

      ..your call..

      ..(showing some more of that takapuna class..eh..?

      ..the boy may move up from glenfield..

      ..but you can’t scrub the glenfield out of the boy..eh..?

      ..is yr real name dene..?..by any chance..?

      ..why did you change it to tarquin..?

      ..did you do that when you move..?

      ..got the top-model laz-ee-boy..?

      ..eh..?

      ..fake tan..?

      [email protected]

      • Ronnie Chow

           There you go again , Hannibal Lecter . From the movie …”
        Now you’re being rude, and I hate rude people.”

      • Mr_Blobby

        This is a good news story why did you bring that loser Phil the Whore into it.
        A dead beat druggy criminal who has never done anything to improve the lot of mankind. Is and always will be a net economic loss to the country with mounting debt he can never repay.
        An A grade Class 1 loser whose only concern is himself.

  • Phar Lap

    Some great refugees who have worked out on their own volition that NZ does not owe them a living.On the other side of the abyss ,many refugees demand NZ gives them as many handouts and benefits they want,or need, with the thought they are refugees and should get superior special treatment. Have spoken to health care providers in private and state care hospitals, that refugees insist they have more priority over natural born NZs,and of course all services to be provided “FREE”to them. Never mind the cost is paid for by our taxes.

  • Michael

    Don’t think it’s news that East Asian refugees are hard working and want to suceed in NZ.  I remember a Vietnamese refugee who played in our U8 Soccer team. His family arrived with nothing but were hard workers and the last I heard he was a lawyer,

    When I bought my first house in the mid 90s, my next door neighbour was a Cambodian who fled the Khmer Rogue. He said he sweated blood for the house. Worked as a taxi driver, his kids all went to University.

    New Zealand should get picky about the refugees it takes – if we take in those who want to contribute and not rely on the state then we could take more than we do now,

    • ConwayCaptain

      Michael

      Just after my late wife and I were married a familay of Indo Chinese refugees arrived.   Cant remembefr the exact nationality.

      My wife spoke Ffr and Japanese and was a linguist and she was asked if she could help them with their English.  Lovely people, house was always clean and tidy and they were v grateful.  We oved away about 9 months after they moved in and lost touch.

      There seem to be Vietnames bakers everywhere!!!  As for Muslims read the articles in the Brit press where this Al Qaeda bloke cant be deported to Jordan as he may be tortured and the Brit taxpayer is paying thousands of pounds a week to keep him and his family in a house inWembley

    • thor42

      I agree, Michael.
      Rule number one – ***no Muslims.*** They want to turn NZ (all Western countries, in fact) into the kind of hellhole that they’ve just left. They’re lazy, ungrateful, scowling welfare-bludgers. Look at the ones around Auckland and Hamilton – they contribute NOTHING to the country, and the same with this bludging family of 11.

      •  who did you hate before the muslims turned up..?

        ..or were you hate-free then..?..(silly me..!..only kidding..!..eh..?.)

        ..that’s right..!..it was the asians..!..eh..?

        ..they were going to be the wrack and ruin of the country…eh..?

        ..9and they (sorta) took over from the pacific islanders..eh..?

        ..and before them the dutch..

        ..and before them the poms..

        (and always the aussies..)

        ..they must have been relieved to see the racist focus/attention switch to the muslims…eh..?..those asians..

        ..much like the african-americans were after 9/11…eh..?

        “..yes..!..white americans hate someone else more than us..!..”

        [email protected]

      • Boss Hogg

        Phillip – It is those that make use of the NZ welfare system that are the problem.  All of you lazy people, immigrant, indigenous, whatever.

        Bludgers and thieves, the lot of YOU.  Piss off.

      • Gazzaw

        Phil, you don’t pay taxes so the debate regarding the upkeep of immigrants has nothing to do with you whatsoever.  Technically you are a NZ citizen but in reality you are just a non-contributing squatter. You are only here by accident of birth.   

      • Mike

         Comment of the day!

      • Michael

        The Bosniaks (who are Muslim) who came to NZ during the Balkan Wars in the 90s have generally done well. I read a book recently “Goodbye Sarajevo” about a a young woman who ended up in Christchurch as she married a kiwi photojournalist she met while working as a “fixer”. She managed to get the rest of her family over under family reunion scheme.

        I see the issue as the UN and NZ setting up too many refugees to fail in NZ – they don’t have marketable skills and we pretty much just drop them into a state house on a benefit.  We either need to commit to training them into employment when they arrive or choose refugees that have skills that could fit into New Zealand – skilled agri workers or trades or professionals.  If we do the first option, the cost of taking refugees would skyrocket, choose the latter option and we probably could take in more.

        For instance, I hear from the local primary school that the Somali kids who attend are very disruptive as they won’t listen to instructions – because all the teachers are female and Somali culture has a very traditional view of the role of women.

      • Gazzaw

        A traditional view of women Michael? You are more than generous with your description. Primitive, medieval & ignorant are more appropriate terms I think.

      • Mr_Blobby

        This is a good news story why did you bring that loser Phil the Whore into it.
        A dead beat druggy criminal who has never done anything to improve the lot of mankind. Is and always will be a net economic loss to the country with mounting debt he can never repay.
        An A grade Class 1 loser whose only concern is himself.

  • Travdog

    8 x ?
    6 x eh
    84 x .
    27 x wasted lines. All in one comment.

    Surely there are some taxpayer funded literary classes out there that [email protected] could attend?

    His comments are getting beyond a joke.

    It beggars beyond belief how people like him slip through the cracks of the mental health system.

    • Not in defence of Phil – or his comments – but I think that last para was below the belt.

      • Travdog

        You’re entitled to think that NEIL, but some of us have had enough of his drug induced jibberish. It detracts from the topic.

      • Ronnie Chow

         Not really . He attacks on a personal basis , trying to get inside people’s heads . He views posting on this blog as a mind game rather than as a conversation with others . Every other writer here is an idiot to Phillip Ure . He tries to psychoanalyze  personalities based on a few written paragraphs . Every post he makes is about himself ,then rebuttals are written in a condescending fashion , soon to be followed by the put-down with the inevitable innuendo/slur . He has probably fooled the Welfare/ Mental Health System , more likely .

    •  gee..travdog..

      ..i just scrolled back to see yr contribution to this thread/topic..

      ..and yr racist/islamophobe spew/vomit was about it…

      ..eh..?

      ..is that all ya got..?

      ..and .. do you go back and lick it up..?

      …that spew/vomit..?

      [email protected]

      • Travdog

        racist? my comment was RACIST? how stupid are you phil? No wonder you’re no good to the work force. It’s just endless drug induced nonsense with you isn’t it, 1 comment after another.

        Confusing me with someone else? glasses fogged up? too much THC?

      • Boss Hogg

        What have you put in the bong tonight Phil?  The only two posts from Travdog are a gentle snipe at your lazy arse.  Or have I missed something?

        Can you explain why Benefit bludgers should be allowed to vote in any elections?

        You seem to be a perfect example for the argument preventing you from voting.

      • Travdog

        You haven’t missed anything Boss Hogg, he’s off his rocker. I’m living the dream, but phil is living the hallucination.

        I bet he’s sitting there right now, picking off the spiders crawling up his arms………

      • Ronnie Chow

           Gee , Phil . There you go AGAIN . Crude , sociopathic drudgery .

    • Mully

       The trouble is, too many people continue to feed the troll.
       
      Meaning my theory of ignoring the twit and hopefully he’ll fuck off can’t be tested.

  • Mr_Blobby

    This is a good news story why did you bring that loser Phil the Whore into it.
    A dead beat druggy criminal who has never done anything to improve the lot of mankind. Is and always will be a net economic loss to the country with mounting debt he can never repay.
    An A grade Class 1 loser whose only concern is himself.

    • Travdog

      He brought himself into it. As usual. Hijacks the thread every time. just scroll back and see for yourself, every time he skews off on a tangent and starts yabbering on about mumbo jumbo nonsense that has nothing to do with anything. The sooner he gets purged the better. I think its necessary to have people from the left side as well offering their views as well, but not useless people spewing utterly senseless crap in a confusing idiotic format.

    •  i got my travdog mixed up with my thor..

      ..it’s easy to do..

      ..so travdog actually said/contributed s.f.a..?

      ..just two whines/whinges..about me..

      [email protected]

      • Travdog

        more like THC mixed up with your meds.

        …..Ironic you should comment about contributing sfa….

  • Mr_Blobby

    This is a good news story why did you bring that loser Phil the Whore into it.
    A dead beat druggy criminal who has never done anything to improve the lot of mankind. Is and always will be a net economic loss to the country with mounting debt he can never repay.
    An A grade Class 1 loser whose only concern is himself.

    •  crikey..!..

      ..was it something i said..?

      [email protected]

      • Ronnie Chow

          Sound familiar , Phillip ?
                                               
        Imagine
        – if you can – not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of
        guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern
        for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members.
        Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life,
        no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you
        had taken.

        And pretend
        that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a
        burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.

        Now add
        to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that
        your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since
        everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings,
        hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.

        You are
        not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you
        are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice
        water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their
        personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.

        In other
        words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered
        liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is
        conveniently invisible to the world.

        You can
        do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority
        of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely
        remain undiscovered.

        How
        will you live your life?

  • whoar..!..what are you smoking there ron..?

    ..i think you may have had too much..eh..?

    ..throttle back man..!

    ..you’ll blow a fuse..

    [email protected]

  • Bunswalla

    Moved back to NZ almost 20 years ago, no jobs in my industry so started a lawn-mowing round, wife got a job as a postie 6 days a week. Saved and bought a takeaway business, we both worked 7 evenings a week, wife still a postie and me still mowing lawns. Sold the lawn-mowing run, put more time into the business, saved and bought a section. Got a mortgage, built the house (me labouring 4 days a week as Fridays were very busy with cleaning and prep for the weekend for takeaways). The first year we had the shop we had two days off, Christmas Day and Boxing Day – rained both days!

    Finished building the house and then bought into a one-person business which I grew to become market leader in NZ and at its peak had offices in NZ and Australia and employed 35 staff. We’ve down-sized a bit now due to selling two divisions and closing the Aussie office, still have 20 staff and have won a number of awards for our products and service.

    In the meantime paid off the mortgage, we have two teenagers at a good school. I still work 60 hours a week, some from home, and my wife’s still a postie 6 days a week.

    None of this was difficult or even remotely praise-worthy. Most people don’t recognise opportunity because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work. New Zealand is full of opportunity and too many people don’t even know they’re born.

    • George

      Kudos to you and your wife.  Well done!

    • Greg M

       Nail on head Bunswalla, Good on you both, awesome.

  • Roland

    I rest my case (if I had one) congrats folks

  • parorchestia

    I thought this thread was about working hard and getting ahead – not Phil’s wonking head and getting a hard! – carrot that is.
    Get a job Phil and a life.

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