Meat and Depression

The Telegraph

It always pays to listen to your body. I bet if they did the study in me it would show an even bigger reduction in depression….I mean it would wouldnt’, all that yummy meat would make anyone feel happy.

I knew meat was good for me….I think I will have a great big Wagyu steak to celebrate:

Women who reduce lamb and beef in their diets are more likely to suffer depression, according to the new study.

Experts admitted surprise at the findings because so many other studies have linked red meat to physical health risks.

The team made the link after a study of 1000 Australian women.

Professor Felice Jacka, who led the research by Deakin University, Victoria, said: “We had originally thought that red meat might not be good for mental health but it turns out that it actually may be quite important.

“When we looked at women consuming less than the recommended amount of red meat in our study, we found that they were twice as likely to have a diagnosed depressive or anxiety disorder as those consuming the recommended amount.

“Even when we took into account the overall healthiness of the women’s diets, as well as other factors such as their socioeconomic status, physical activity levels, smoking, weight and age, the relationship between low red meat intake and mental health remained.

“Interestingly, there was no relationship between other forms of protein, such as chicken, pork, fish or plant-based proteins, and mental health. Vegetarianism was not the explanation either. Only nineteen women in the study were vegetarians, and the results were the same when they were excluded from the study analyses.”

Professor Jacka, an expert in psychiatric health, believed the diet of the sheep and cattle was relevant.

“We know that red meat in Australia is a healthy product as it contains high levels of nutrients, including the Omega-3 fatty acids that are important to mental and physical health,” she said.

“This is because cattle and sheep in Australia are largely grass fed. In many other countries, the cattle are kept in feedlots and fed grains, rather than grass. This results in a much less healthy meat with more saturated fat and fewer healthy fats.”


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  • hold that ‘big wagyu steak’ there..tiger…!

    (also from the link you cite..)

    “..But eating too much red meat could be as bad for mental health as not eating

    The Australian government recommends eating 65 -100g of lean, red
    meat three to four times a week.

    “We found that regularly eating more than the recommended amount of red
    meat was also related to increased depression and anxiety,” Professor
    Jacka added.

    “We already know that the overall quality of your diet is
    important to mental health.

    But it seems that eating a moderate amount of
    lean red meat –

    – which is roughly three to four small, palm-sized serves a
    week, may also be important.”

    i mean..real kiwi men have that much for breakfast..on one day…eh..?

    ..and i wouldn’t mind betting the study was financed by some configuration of the meat-industry… that..?

    “..three to four small, palm-sized serves a

    whoar..!..if i was still a flesh-addict…that would be like a tease…

    ..almost cruel..

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    • Groans

      I have meat 3 times a day but often have a bacon sandwich for morning tea.  Should I cut out the morning tea?

    • Orange

       On the other three days you can have chicken, pork, fish, etc. So NO, don’t hold the steak.

  • Whalehunter

    It’s actually just lack of protein but the red meat marketeers would like you to think otherwise.

    • Macca

      Well said Whalehunter and totally true – although you’ll never manage to convince the non-flesh eaters of that!

      Did you know,  there has never been a study done that proves a direct correlation between animal fats and heart disease?  Why have obesity rates sky rocketed over the last 30-40 years when the intake of animal fat have gone down?

      The human brain NEEDS FAT TO SURVIVE!  Whats the very first symtom people suffer when the brain is starved of fat ie. a low fat diet – DEPRESSION!

      The cause of world obesity is sugar and the massive intake of carbohydrates – not red meat as the greens want us to believe.  But hey, aren’t they the same people pushing global warming and socialism – so they must be right!

  • It’s actually called iron deficiency geez – where did these people go to school? So do they think depression is caused by eating too much red meat – or is it just us folk who suffer from depression eat more red meat – come on I’m counting to ten – what’s your answer?

  • Whalehunter

    “Some common protein deficiency symptoms that indicate that your body requires some extra amount of high protein foods are: Weight loss, muscles wasting, weakness and fatigue, frequent infections, sever edema (retention of fluid), slow development and growth in the children. In addition some specific type of protein deficiency symptoms are: Kwashiorkor, pluckable and brittle hair, alopecia, decreased pigmentation in hair, meuhrcke’s lines in nails, delay in healing of wounds, decubitus ulcers, crazy paving and flaky paint dermatitis, etc.These protein deficiency symptoms can lead to some emotional as well as mental risks such as: apathy, anxiety, depression, irritability, moodiness, intolerance, mental alertness decrement, concentration, comprehension, increase of hunger and weight and many others serious problems. Thus, protein deficiency could prove as a major cause to make mental health of an individual weak and poor.”

    • Interesting – thanks for that info Whalehunter – I’ve got the meuhrcke’s lines in all my nails takes double to usual folk (who are they?) healing of wounds, constant fatigue and sever edema, been told I have no option but to stay on my medication for the balance of my life

      •  what do you eat..?

        ..have you investigated other options..?

        ..and i’m no doctor..and don’t know all yr personal circumstances..

        ..but i do know a lot of vegans..

        .some of them in their late seventies..

        ..and to a man/woman they are in good nick..

        .so..y’know..! could be worth investigating the ins and outs..

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  •  if this animal flesh stuff is so good for you…

    ..why do they issue such dire warnings of the implications if you ignore their consumption guidelines..? i get warnings of cancer etc. from eating avocados…?

    ..and everything macca said was wrong…i have been collecting/collating that meat-cancer link for years..

    ..and have links to many of those studies in the vegan section at whoar…

    ..if animal flesh was introduced as a new product now… would fail the basic/obvious health/safety-guidelines…

    ..what does that tell you..?

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    • Macca

      Sorry Phool – but you are wrong!

      I can proove everything I have said with legitimate scientific studies!  You can’t!

      I doubt very much whether you would be able to understand any of this but try reading this link;

      But then coming from someone who believes in man made global warming….what can I say!

      The recent red meat study you believed in was whats called an ‘obsevational study’.  Do you know the difference between that and a clinical study Phool?  If so, plerase tell me!

      •  macca..i have already told you where i have a mountain of evidence… saying i haven’t/’can’t’…is just silly..

        ..and you link to some blog of some raver…?…pushing his own barrel..?


        ..could you link me to the ‘legitimate scientific studies’ you refer to ..?

        ..and what made that recent harvard study so significant/credible was not only what it said..

        ..but that such a large amount of people over such a long time took part in it…

        ..i repeat the observation that you have health warnings for eating more than yr favoured study..

        ..and if a new product..those health implications would rule it out..

        ..tell me how that is wrong/incorrect..

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    • Mr_Blobby

      That visitor you had to your site about 3 weeks ago was me, now I know why you spend so much time here.
      With the price of meat I’m surprised Beneficiaries can afford to eat it, we must be paying them too much. Then again let them eat cake.  

    • Steve P

      “…do i get warnings of cancer etc. from eating avocados…?”

      The “experts” will give you warnings of high cholesterol from eating avocados.

      It has been said that if cooking was introduced as a new thing now the “Health Authorites” wouldn’t allow it.

      Oh, and just for a larf…

  • the person who did that study mr oil refers to was on nat-rad…

    jim mora appears to be terrified at/about this meat-warning business..he is a bit like a heroin addict finding out for the first time that what he loves is actually killing him..heh..!

    ..he has had two goes in the last two days to debunk the bad news…yesterday was funny…

    ..he had someone who was a la-la..who had written a nutso diet book.. could almost hear his teeth grinding as she turned out to be a total flake…

    ..and the visitor today wouldn’t have reassured… she was so emphatic about too much meat..

    ..and her sobering/killer/yet cheery-quote was saved for the end..

    …that 90% of australians are eating the wrong diet…

    …and somehow i don’t think it was that they are eating too little of their favourite poison….eh..?

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  •  um..!..why am i unable to link to this post..? just comes up as 404 unable to be found..

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  • s’ bad..

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