Who created the piracy problem?

The studios did, says Kim Dotcom:

But we are not responsible for the problem and this is, I think, what everyone needs to understand.   Where does piracy come from? Piracy comes from, you know, people, let’s say, in Europe who do not have access to movies at the same time that they are released in the US. This is a problem that has been born within this licensing model and the old business model that Hollywood has where they release something first in one country but they show trailers to everyone around the world pitching that new movie but then the 14-year-old kid in France or Germany can’t watch it for another six months, you know? If the business model would be one where everyone has access to this content at the same time, you know, you wouldn’t have a piracy problem. So it’s really, in my opinion, the government of the United States protecting an outdated monopolistic business model that doesn’t work anymore in the age of the internet and that’s what it all boils down to.


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  • Blackbeard

    Reel Piracy: The Effect of Online Film Piracy on International Box Office Saleshttp://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1986299

  • MPAA could be looking at the problem as: “A pirate is a future customer”.  

  • Hakim of phut

    Everything this Dot.head says is self serving nonsense. The reason some , not all movies have staged releases is the limited numbers of prints for release. But that has changed more recently as digital projectors become more widespread.
    Problem solved – next lame excuse from lamhead ?

    • wannano

       self serving nonsense eh hoikem te fat?

      Pot calling kettle…………..

      • Hakim of phut

        In what way is this serving my interest.  I dont  use illegal downloads or pirated software.

    • politically unstable

       Bullshit.   no other way to put it really HoP. By the way, the earth is not flat…

      Do oyu think digital projecters are limited to USA and NZ????  what a “shit for brains” post you have made!!

      • Hakim of phut

        Didnt say that. Digital projectors are available for any movie theatre that wants to pay for them to be installed. Instead of  getting a box of reels  which cost $10,000 to produce the get a hard drive which costs  $60 and is reusable
        I have a fatso subscription where I ‘pay for’ any movies I want to watch at home

      • politically unstable

         Phut, we are not talking about you and your personal preferences, we were talking about your bullshit comment about why the releases of movies have to be staggered. And here I was thinking that you dislike big business ripping off the small guys….you just get on this site and call white black to get your rocks off. You are still S4B.

      • Hakim of phut

        Are you ignorant . A film print costs a reasonable amount of money, ergo you cant have all new movies in all cinemas at once.

      • politically unstable

         Phut, you said “But that has changed more recently as digital projectors become more widespread”.

        So either its an issue or its not. And given the amount of times you have been pulled up for talking shit, who would believe you?

        you are still shit for brains, and I will now stop feeding the looney.

    • Robbo

      Phut is right, Dotcom is a bunch of bull. Do you think he would stop doing this if the poor kiddies in France and Germany had releases at the same time? He is in it for the money and not some ideological crap about the greater good.

      • politically unstable

         He never preached idealogogy – you are. He called himself an innovator. He has not broken a law, and he is protected by an act regarding what third parties do. Just like youtube and google etc.

        Bill Gates, Larry Ellison etc all became very rich for innovation as well. Look at Microsoft and their battles with anti trust lawsuits….why dont you harp on about that.

      • Robbo

        Hardly harping on Unstable – although you had a good rant!

      • AnonWgtn

        If Dotcom was an American he would be feited as another Bill Gates – a great rich American entrepreneur.

    • timboh

      Hakim, most of what people say is self serving. Even you

  • Robt Davies

    He came across bloody well on last night’s Campbell Live. He’s clearly rehearsed his lines carefully.  Wonder if he knows what he’s in for?  Depending on the outcome of the August extradition hearing, it’ll be years before this mess is resolved….and it’ll cost a fortune.  Still, seems like it might be one of ‘those’ cases that fourth year law students studying IP will be forced to learn….

  • timboh

    I am extremely disappointed that the NZ Police would do the bidding of the US authorities who are basically acting as the police arm of the Film and Music industry (of the USA) who pay huge sums of money to US lawmakers (so called campaign contributions) and spend huge sums of money lobbying US lawmakers to do whatever is in their interests.

    Because (alleged) copyright infringement is not an extraditable offence here the US have used ‘Organised crime’ and money laundering. If the business is legal (which it is and there are plenty of other sites offering the same lock box facility as Megaupload) then how can the profits and the movement of that cash be called laundering? The other disturbing action was the freezing of assets and activities before he has even been found fit to extradite. All US bullshit and bully boy tactics. 

  • With the qualification that I’m largely on the side of Dotcom: his treatment by the Keystone cops has been all out of proportion to the ‘crime’, if there is one. I also think, and hope, the authorities will have a lot of trouble prosecuting him, because he can’t be responsible for the actions of third parties, his terms of service covered him, and he freely designed into his service access for any affected parties to go and delete pirated content.

    He is no more responsible for pirates using his bandwidth, than I would be for burglars, say, using a private road I might build, to get away with their crimes. And I’m not expected to be policing my road for same.

    But I don’t agree with his above comment either, and it was the one point on which I did disagree with him in the Campbell interview. This might be why piracy happens, but it doesn’t excuse it. Copyright is a valid property right, and should be protected for the artists on the principle only, (though the movie companies in their own interest have to introduce themselves to the 21st century now, and operate within it).

    Turning it back to Dotcom again, no matter what the circumstances, FBI, or whomever, should only go for the individual pirates using Megaupload, not the owners running a legitimate service. But as is usual now, they just blunder in with force looking for the patsy target. The major thing that Dotcom demonstrates to us, again, in the same way that Mark Hotchin’s unprincipled 14 month asset freeze does also, is that the NZ State, and certainly the United Police States of America, are running roughshod over the rule of law, and thus have lost ‘their’ right to govern. The West needs it’s own Spring, to knock back the obese size of State to small state limited government.

    •  Hell, what was I thinking. Of course, the Western Spring needs to be peaceful. I have to be careful in the Police State of NZ saying stuff like this, because I don’t want the Keystone Cops on my door.

  • politically unstable

    I am no lawyer, but the laundering is only chargeable if the original offence is indictable?? So if the copyright is not indictable, can he be extradited? 

  • Mbxchequer

    Actually, everything that he said last night was pretty much on the money. The business model that the MPAA and the RIAA have run for years is buggered and they haven’t adapted……much in the same way as Kodak. Make no mistake, the FBI has targeted Megaupload cause they couldn’t get Google (there is already precedent set in US courts over copyright issues) and they will use all pressure they can bring to bear on a person (or persons) in order to bring a conviction that otherwise would make them look like dicks if they failed. 

    Troll Slashdot.org sometime, Hakim and try to ken up on the issue before commenting, eh? Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

  • Brian Smaller

     So Hakim are you telling me you have never listened to a music recording (even on an old cassette tape), an MP3 download or a movie that a mate gave you to look at?  I call massive bullshit on that. Otherwise you would have a halo bright enough to power solar cells.

    • Hakim of phut

      Exactly . Never had a VHS ever and only got a DVD player in last 6 months. Cassettes have only had about 20 , all paid for

      •  If ever there was a case for someone to get a life and to live a little, your statement here just made it loud and clear…

  • He can be extradited if the same charge bearing a penalty of greater than five years imprisonment is punishable in the country harbouring the alleged criminal. 
    the US is trying to pull every bugger over to the States,can’t find examples going the other way.

  • Mr_Blobby

    A relative rented space on Mega, for legitimate business reasons, for 12 months. 6 months into it, the site went down. The question is will he get a refund for the remainder of his 6 month subscription. Will we see a class action lawsuit from the legitimate users of Mega? I wonder where the Police, will park their helicopters when they come for him.
    This smells of the US Government protecting big US companies.
    I would have grave concerns about extraditing a non US citizen to the US given their recent history of killing or imprisoning, without charge, anyone they deem to be a threat. Their ability to reach around the world and into the private bank accounts of citizens of other sovereign nations. Based on there say so only.
    So Uncle Sam where are the weapons of mass destruction in NZ. Not that important when you have a compliant Government.
    So MonKey, why are we persecuting, a resident, based only on the say so of the US FBI. Why are we imprisoning someone, not found guilty of anything, who poses no threat to the safety of the NZ public? When we let convicted rapists and murderers who are a significant threat, walk our streets.

  • Stevo

    I think Mr_Blobby is going to explode.

  • Vikingonmars

    Has anyone in NZ ever seen 78 police ninga’s in full battle dress with two helicopters ever and I nean ever attack a Mongrel Mob or Black Power stronghold. They didn’t even have that many on the ground when Len Slee was killed in Napier.
    Outrageous over use of police resources and police funds. I trust that the current Minister docks their budget and asks the FBI to refund them.

    Unfortunately for NZ now its appears to be becoming standard practice to have AOS called out for every thing. Must be more money in it for them. Don’t see it in Aussie so one presumes that its because they don’t watch so many American Police programs so haven’t been so influenced.

    • Stevo

      Vikingonmars is where you should stay.

      Police do not’ attack’ anybody, they execute search warrants issued by the Courts, based on information that can be subject to, and should stand up to rigorous inquiry by the Justice system.

      You have obviously never looked an angry man in the eyes.