Shearer’s lost Shane’s vote

Lost in the Budget coverage last night was the Bill Liu case.

Dover Samuels unleashed on Shearer and it looks like Shane Jones is no admirer either.

Yes, ‘Vindicated’ is the word Dover chose to use.


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  • Russell Belding

    Dover Samuel has gone well out of his way to affirm Mr Liu. Shane Jones wants a bit of space to breath. Well … they could be clean players here. Who will ask them is Mr Liu paid them money or their friends money for any reason. Is so how much and when?

  • Jester

    The whole episode stinks. As you dig deeper the more questions it raises. i guess the document you have Cam may have some answers but from just my limited searching through publically available information this has huge potential to be damaging for many ministers, ex ministers, business leaders and the like.

    • AngryTory

       As you dig deeper the more questions it raises. 

      WTF?   Liu wanted citizenship. He paid labour. They gave him citizenship. It would have been signed of by the cabined, so they’re all as guilty as hell. 

      What’s so hard about that?

  • Jester

    Jones is just the tip of the iceberg. If someone gets their teeth into this and runs with it i think it will be carnage.

    The Dover doth protest too much…!

    • AnonWgtn

      What does Dover care – he has retired with a fat pension and I understand he spends most of his time in Australia anyway.

  • Blokeintakapuna

    Maybe “Sunday” could do a full-on investigative article on this?

    Cue Tui Billboard…

  • thesorrow&thepity

    How did the media get hold of the initial story? It seems there’s a lot of behind the scenes information about possible backhanders & shady dealings. Wouldn’t be surprised if Cunliffe’s got a hand in exposing things, it seems to play into his strategy of isolating Shearer. Just like how a wolf isolates the weak from the herd. Trotter may be a prat but he’s right on the devious game of thrones mentality within the labour party cabal !!! 

  • Tim

    As far as I’m aware Liu was NOT found innocent and in fact the evidence suggests he was guilty but it couldn’t be proved beyond reasonable doubt. Not guilty yes, innocent? No, could be (although from the judges summary, unlikely), but the court definitely didn’t find him innocent.

    How do they get away with such crap?  

  • AnonWgtn

    Judgement like Scottish Law.
    Not Proven.

    • ConwayCaptain

      As I said in another post on this subject what Not Proven means is

      “We know you did it but cant prove it”

      My late wife who was a Scot that that verdict for someone is actually worse than a Guilty verdict as people now look at you in a way that means you did it but wernt quite clever enough to get away with igt.