Some interesting titbits coming from the Bill Liu case

The Bill Liu case is now before the courts and boy some intersting stuff is coming to light. It certainly looks like Bill Liu is throwing Shane Jones under the bus:

A Chinese millionaire on trial in the High Court at Auckland for fraud boasted to immigration officials that he had MP friends who would ensure he got citizenship.

The high-ranking officials were stunned when then Cabinet minister Shane Jones approved the application one day after getting his file. They were certain Yong Ming Yan, also known as Bill Liu, who had been red-flagged by Interpol, stood little chance.

But Yan leaned back in his chair, with his arms behind his head, and said he was 99 per cent confident he would get citizenship, the court was told yesterday.

“He said he had a lot of support from members of Parliament … he was going to take them to China,” Internal Affairs case officer Olele Johannes Gambo said.

If proven, the allegation of special treatment would be serious enough to warrant investigation by the police.

Yan was granted citizenship by Mr Jones in 2008, after officials repeatedly told him that Yan failed a required good character test, the court was told.

Mr Gambo said that when Yan was told he could not have citizenship, he said friends in Parliament would ensure he got it.

Mr Jones, who refused to comment on the allegations last night, was named in court with former Labour MP Dover Samuels.

The court was told Yan was sworn in as a citizen within a day of Mr Jones approving citizenship.

Yan had gained permanent residency and applied for citizenship in April 2008.

There was “a lot of pressure for us to complete the file”, Mr Gambo told the court.

It was clear Yan would fail the good character test. He was wanted on Interpol Red Notices based on arrest warrants issued in China.

The file went to Mr Jones on May 23, 2008. Yan was sworn in as a New Zealander the next day. “It is very unusual,” Mr Gambo said.

I’d say Shane jones is in an awful spot of bother, but so too will be a few other Labour MPs who were ministers at the time.

While the opposition moans about baskets of fruit it appears that the real corruption scandal is being read out in our courts right now.


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  • jabba

    it really seems that Jones is in deep shit .. makes banksies troubles look petty BUT was listening to Rodney and Willie Jackson today and they had Dover Samuels on and he seems to think it’s a beat up . TUI
    Shearer has 4 MP’s under investigation .. get the surfboard out Dave and have a surf

    • La la land

      Ofcourse Dover Samuels thinks that – he’s in it up to his armpits

    • Dr Wang

      Would that would be the same old Labour MP drongo Dover Samuels…who had a crap in the lobby of a flash hotel in Auckland a few years back? Well he would be a reliable witness then, wouldn’t he (well comb-over-Willie would have you believe so).

  • joe bloggs

    Strikes me that this is Kim Dotbanks all over again and written in large letters.

    The only differences are the corruption’s on a significantly larger scale and it involves a Labour Cabinet Minister, rather than a local mayoral aspirant. Now why doesn’t any of that surprise me?I wonder how long it’ll be before the MSM are all over this like shit to a blanket?I won’t hold my breath waiting…

    • Troy

      or will all the media be all over it?  The NZ Herald is somewhat protective of Labour, but any other media outlet should take an interest.  Shane Jones (the flogger who would be PM) the Harvard educated elitist of oratory favour probably has not much to say about this.

    • Phar Lap

       The media eat shit if it is Lie-bour or any of their sycophants.To admit any thing against Lie-bour would make them real journalists.Until that miracle they will remain broken down news hacks.

  • James Stephenson

    Heard Samuels on with Willie and JT Rodney earlier on, basically saying he knew better than interpol! The best defence of Jones that Willie could come up with was that he just “did what Uncle Dover asked him to do”.

    • jabba

      I forgot about that, Rodney had a little snigger about it after Dover hung up

  • Mickrodge

    Ooohhh I can just see Garner now full of indignation & pomp sticking it to the corrupt Labour MP’s whilst Pedro Gower tailgates them through the streets of Wellington goading them into comment.

    Not to mention the “little creep” with the full expose at 7pm using every resource available to the Campbell Live team.

    Now there’s a Tui billboard if ever I saw one.

    • jabba

      I tell you what Mick .. Rachael Smalley is becoming the best interviewing journo in the land .. Gower has a great face for radio

  • Riskit

    There is nothing for it. Both Banks and Jones have to go. If they don’t, we are settling for corruption at the highest level.There is no defending either of them no matter what side of the fence you sit on. To say one is OK and the other not is to be a total hypocrite. Tell you one thing though… if one leader dumps their boy… the other will have to follow suit. it will be carnage if they don’t.

    • Euan Rt

      Nice try Riskit, but Banks will never see the inside of a court room, and will never be proven guilty, therefore must be assumed innocent. Jones on the other hand…

      • Kosh103

        LMAO – Banks isnt innocent and I wont pretend otherwise. He was caught telling lie after lie after lie, and he damm well knew who gave him the money and he damm well asked for it to be split.


      • curmudgeon1

        I’m with Euan Rt on this one Riskit. Banksy matter was prioir to the Auckland mayoralty campaign – Flogger Jones was a Mimister of the Crown i.e. not even remotely comparable!! In terms of  magnitude of MSM response it will be fascinating to see this plays out. My pick is a relatively muted response from the dreadful biased pinko petty …. media hacks (TV, NZ Herald, Radio NZ etc) i.e the handling of the issue has the potential to serve as graphic illustration of lack of objectivity in our MSM      

    • jabba

      I’m glad Act got the seat Riskit but you are correct .. Banksie has too much baggage and needs to be set free

    • AngryTory

      What the FUCK?? Banks was a private cirizen. What he did is up to him.

      Jones & no doubt several other ministers H1 and H2 are corrupt and should be in jail

      There is no comparison.

      • Eds52

        Bollocks. What they both did was against the law. Shouldn’t matter at what level. If a supermarket attendant steals he loses his job… same concept. While he was cavorting with DC he may have been a private citizen but now he is an MP and he is lying his arse off. You can’t do that. 

  • Bunswalla

    Funny, I was almost certain we’d have seen a comment from Kosh by now. After all, school’s out and there’s some “currupt” practices going on here. Whither your loud condemnation now, Koshy-boy?

    • Phar Lap

       He will come out of his crypt anytime soon.Speaking his currupt english in his Dutchy fashion.

    • Kosh103

      Iv been a tad busy  in the real world, as opposed to you it would seem.

      And if Jones was in any way “paid off” in order to get this guy into the country – then down he goes.

      See unlike the right on here if someone on the left is guilty then I say punish them – as opposed to all of you defending Banks and his lies and corrupt acts.

      Guess thats why I am the better person.

      • Troy

        Pity you can’t convince all the other loonie lefties in this country to apply the same thought process.

      • starboard


      • Bunswalla

        Hmmm, define “better” for me Kosh. But well done for achieving two things I genuinely thought were beyond you:

        1. Answering a simple question with a straight answer.
        2. Condemning one of your own that was caught out in curruption.

        Seems it was a brief moment of lucidity though, I notice you’ve completely hijacked the thread on the “Conversation with the Police” post. Trying to turn it into a rant about National cutting police numbers which is pure bullshit. They cut some non-sworn jobs which didn’t affect the number of front-line cops at all.

      • Sarrs

        Smug much? You are saying that you are a better person? Than who? Who do you know on here well enough to make that call? A tad judgement there Kosh. Talk about playing than man, not the ball. 

      • joe bloggs

        there you go with that psychological projection mechanism again, Koshy.

        You should really get some help with that…

      • Rum

        10/10 Kosh no spelling errors in this one that I can see, now try to to improve your punctuation.

      • Euan Rt

        Rum you missed the first word of Koshs’ post. Also started a sentence with ‘And’, and as you noted, very poor punctuation.

      • Kosh103

        Gosh the right do not like it when you point out how they support Keys nasty deals of selling our law, protecting a corrupt Banks and that I say if a leftie is in the wrong punish them.

        Tut tut, for shame.

      • Pukakidon

         Kosh only one word ——- Liarbor

  • Roflcopter

    Labour knew this was coming. Why do you think they’ve been ramping the Banks stuff for so long?

    • Gazzaw

      Will the MSM gve it any oxygen at all though?

      It’s probably timely to give any questionable immigration files over that period a full audit.

    • Eds52

      I think you will find that Mr DC has been doing a whole lot more damage that the left. And doing a fine job too.

  • Phar Lap

    With real corruption evidence being played out in the court room,where are our defenders of corruption   the bastion of truth TVNZ TV3, HERALD, DOM POST,oh i forgot they are only interested in imagined corruption. THEY IGNORE THE   TRUE FACTS AND REPORT ON THE FICTION.What an indictment, it makes the media guilty on all counts.

    • Phar Lap

       Some slack for Dom Post bless them.They have the whole alleged corruption on their front page.Also heard on the Larry show,when John Banks was under the cosh ,Shearer was screaming for John Key to stand down Banks.Well Mr Shearer how about you doing the same with Shane Jones.Ps heard another allegation Cunliffe is donkey deep in the Asian Passports for cash caper.

  • Notrotsky

    Wasn’t silent T the minister who pushed this through against the ministry’s wishes.

  • jabba

    Labour will try and protect Jones as he has shown the counrty that he is a master debater

    • Bunswalla

      Haha Jabba, nice one. Does anyone know if he had a carpet-cleaning business at one time?

    • Kosh103

      l suppose your going to try and claim old St John never slapped his pickel.

  • David

    Beats the shit out ofmehow a gift basket is top news where Banks is concerned but a donation to Labour for residency is ignored.
    Let’s hope The review of APNs assets might see Murdoch enter the market. Bizarre but good on Fairfax for covering this, Danya Levy will be mortified that her labour party press releases have been usurped by real news, probably upset her future career in the labour party.

  • Boss Hogg

    Got to be some txt’s fom New York coming in soon…….I hope !!

  • johnbronkhorst

    Full front page in the dompost today. Large picture of jones. Maybe we are just used to corrupt LABOUR politicians.

  • la la land

    OMG May be blind but just checked Herald website for Liu story this morning – and they have filed nothing since May 11. Paid off??