Laws: Arm the Police

Michael Laws says it is time to arm the police and also dispels some myths around the recent incident in Dargaville:

Every time a police officer is brutally attacked in this country – be they shot, stabbed or beaten – the NZ Police Association representing frontline staff provides the Pavlovian response. Arm the police, they ritually demand.

In turn this provokes the equally Pavlovian response of the police hierarchy, the government of the day and numerous academics: No. Their collective rationale is that the police, and the public, will be in greater danger if our frontline against the ferals and the nutters have Glocks strapped to their waists.

This week, Justice (and former police) Minister Judith Collins led the charge. The police already have liberalised gun regulations, she argued. They can take arms to any incident deemed likely.

Which rather misses the point. Police have no idea how any situation might escalate or de-escalate when they receive that initial call. The ones in which they are injured or killed, tend to start from some mundane pretext. Incidents are generally deemed not likely – and then all hell breaks loose, as it did in Dargaville this week or in the driveway of Napier drug dealer Jan Molenaar in 2009.

I don;t think it is good enough that the pistols and rifles are in lock boxes in police cars…when things escalate they escalate far faster than a police officer can run back to his car and unlock a box.

Liberal pantywaists have been arguing with me all week that arming the Police would have meant that an officer would be dead rather than shot at with his own taser. Michael Laws knows the real facts around that…armed Police get a much politer response from people than those unarmed or considered unarmed…the crims obviously consider Tasers to be no threat at all:

Critics contend that had the police been armed – especially in the Dargaville case – it is more likely that they would have been shot.

That is nonsense. Two police personnel with pistols unsheathed would have been met with a very different response from the drunk/drugged partygoers.

And the inadequacy of the Taser was again demonstrated. It’s not a weapon that you take to an aggressive mob. Nor is pepper spray – frankly, the idea that these standard weapons are effective in making foaming ferals think again, is just risible. Individually maybe; collectively – you have to be joking.

The problem with most politicians – and even the public – is that they do not appreciate the very real instabilities and dangers that our police daily encounter. Stronger drink and psychotic drugs have changed everything. So too have the almost nihilistic outlooks that pervade significant sections of our community.

Add the loonies – many off their medication and on something more illicit – and it’s little wonder that the police have their recruiting issues.


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  • Orange

    Will the average policeman be better at shooting than their driving? I wonder what the AOS lads think of the situation.

    • Jimmie

      Well most cops get certified twice a year which involves firing around 30 odd round from a Glock & Bushmaster and thats it.

      Imagine if that was the same for driving – drive twice a year and thats it.

      Speaking from experience they need access to local gun clubs where they can go several times a month and get some real practice with their firearms – the current training regime is all about saving $$$ rather than producing competent cops.

      • Hazards001

        Gotta agree, I’m sorry but 7 shots at a cow is appalling train them then arm them. (That wasn’t the article I was looking for, there was a famous incident at the Auckland Harbour bridge where 11 shots were fired by the AOS before they dropped it and another on Auckland’s Southern Motorway if i remember rightly) And I do have a qualified right to speak on this. I’m an ex small bore shooter,skeet shooter and hunter.

        When I was a farm boy we used to drop the house beef with a .22 rifle..wasn’t hard. I seldom shoot anymore but still have my firearms and am hopeful of passing my knowledge onto my girls when they are a little older.

      • Dumrse

        “Speaking from experience…..” Some detail here would give the average reader an indicator of your credability rating.

  • Bones

    The other option is to make any attacks on the police, fire, Ambulance and prison guards a serious offense with mandatory incarceration with no parole.

  • NZatlarge

    Guns are such an emotive issue, it’s hard(er) to get a rational consensus from the general public on the subject.

    What most people will agree on is the fact even the oxygen-theives that perpetrate these cowardly attacks on the police are able to comprehend the fact that a pistol is a far more dangerous weapon than their fist, bottle, knife.

    Therefore when confronted with an officer who is armed and should the perpetrator decide to attack the officer, it is them who will come off second best. This acts as a very powerful deterent, that will reduce the number of unprovoked attacks on police and give them a means of defending themselves should a situation require it i.e. Jan Mollenar.

    Most arrived police officers in comparable countries will never have to discharge their weapon, yet the public seems to have the perception that they will be shot next time they are pulled over for a traffic ticket.