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Receiving 50+ upvotes, Alex commented on Reclaiming the Left – by a Labour Party member:

“Boiled down to its absolute core, the difference between left and right is this: leftists believe in altruism and the collective, rightists believe that selfishness is morally right. As a leftist I obviously disagree that selfishness is ethical, but there are plenty of arguments out there (Ayn Rand being the most popular). “

Now this sort of shit makes my blood boil.

This equating leftism with “altruism” and rightism with “selfishness” is the heart of the leftist problem in NZ and elsewhere. It gives rise to the leftist ever so annoying sense of moral superiority; and to the anti-democratic attitude held by someone them that anyone opposed to leftism must be inherently “bad”, and therefore there is no obligation to accord to the opposition the basic rights of not interfering with property, not personally abusing people, allowing them the opportunity to express a different opinion.

As a “rightist”, I’m totally against selfishness — whether it be beneficiaries who think themselves entitled to lifelong benefits without even trying to work, or upper income people who think it’s ok to engage in dodgy “tax minimisation” schemes when everyone else has to cop it.

The essential difference is that rightists believe in empowering individuals, individual responsibility as the cornerstone of society, that the state’s power should be limited, and that legislative action should be limited to situations where it is necessary to protect other peoples’ tangible rights or (in exceptional cases) where there is demonstrable evidence that only the State can avoid or mitigate some tangible mischief (as opposed to social engineering).

When and if the leftists in this country actually start to respect the centre-right, acknowledge that their viewpoint is legitimate and reasonable, and that voters are not stupid fools who take up this “dog whistling” (as if leftists never engage in such rubbish) hook, line and sinker, only then will the left finally be in a position to contribute to this democracy.  

Patrick comments on Rodney,  Matt, hand in your man cards

Hide is a softcock playing to the gallery – all his Herald columns do is highlight what a waste his career as a politician has been. He says all the right things but when he was in the prime position to have influence he chose to bury his snout in the trough just like all the rest of the politicians. His ongoing legacy is Len Brown & the Auckland Supercity, how very apt. Hide is all mouth and no trousers.

As for McCarten – another leftie commie bullshitter. Stole from the NZ Taxpayer & refuses to pay it back. At the same time he rails against “big business” exploiting the poor old working man – what could be worse than deducting their PAYE & trousering it?


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