National should quit Ratana and never go back

David Shearer has let the cat out of the bag, Ratana are about to become Labour’s maori bitches once again:

Mr Shearer pledged last year to meet regularly with the Ratana movement.

Since then, he has hosted the church elders at Parliament and met them several times.

“So I am going up for the church service on Friday – for me that is the most significant day and it’s the day when people commemorate it.”

He said this week that Labour were also now in discussions with Ratana about whether it would become an affiliate of the party.

That would give it some influence over candidate selections and voting power in future leadership elections.

National should now shun Ratana, they have become a politically corrupt organisation. I’ll bet they are a registered charity as well…that needs reviewing too now they look set to become an affiliate of the Labour party.

Chris Finlayson, Judith Collins and new labour minister Simon Bridges need to sit down now and review electoral laws. They need to do it urgently.

There is no place in politics for affiliate memberships of political parties with special rights and privileges.

What needs to happen is for the law to change to prevent anyone other than natural persons from becoming members, affiliate or otherwise of a political party. The second thing that needs to happen is for the law around donations to change at the same time. That law needs to prevent any donations to political parties unless they are from natural persons. No corporates, no unions, no trusts, nothing but individuals.

These things are urgent, they need to be done to prevent an abuse of our democracy. It would be appalling if the Auckland Chamber of Commerce was abkle to become a member of the National party, and likewise if the EMA was too…but for some reason labour thinks it is perfectly above board to hand out memberships to affiliate unions and now a church based on a cult figure.

 

 


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  • Lofty

    This is a Fucken disgrace

  • StupidDisqus

    Chris Finlayson, Judith Collins and new labour minister Simon Bridges need to sit down now and review electoral laws. They need to do it urgently.

    There is no place in politics for affiliate memberships of political parties with special rights and privileges.

    You’ve got it backwards: there is no place in a democracy for political parties based and funded out of antidemocratic corrupt special interests.

    The most important things to ban are Labour and the Greens and unions – not Ratana.

    That law needs to prevent any donations to political parties unless they are from natural persons. No corporates, no unions, no trusts, nothing but individuals.

    It’s pretty obvious that donations must not be able to come from unions and charities.

    But it is factually true that “corporates are people”: they certainly pay and collect enough tax, and are impeded by enough laws and regulation.

    It would be appalling if the Auckland Chamber of Commerce was abkle to become a member of the National party, and likewise if the EMA was too.

    What? why on earth would that be “appalling”? It’s called freedom. Frankly it’s common sense that the EMA may want to donate to National (or the Conservatives), and may well want to “join” the party (or at least affiliate with National). What on earth is wrong with that? If the EMA is paying for the party, the damn well should have direct input into its decisions.

    It wasn’t that long ago in NZ that the EMA etc were directly represented by seats in the upper house – that’s still pretty much the case in Canada for goodness sake, and somewhat less in the UK.

    These things are urgent, they need to be done to prevent an abuse of our democracy

    Getting unions, and “green/left” charities out of politics – absolutely!

    Corporates, partnerships, chambers of commerce, manufactures & employers organizations – they are key to NZ having a future. Getting them out of politics? absolutely not

  • LesleyNZ

    Agree – I don’t know why all the political parties go there in any case.

    • Apolonia

      Not all of the parties go there.

    • Hazards001

      Attending and being subtly insulted at Ratana does Key no good it is starting to make him look beholden to Maori. The opportunity existed to crush some of the inequities in MMP..or all of them, to rid us of the racist Maori seats, to sort out and change parliamentary rules and to clean the hole kit and caboodle up. Instead the smiling assassin has spent his time swanning around on the ice shaking hands with all the black and white non voters (penguins) instead of using this time to come up with policy and redefine a party that seems to have no traction and is foundering in the mistaken belief that it’s leaders popularity will see it through. Frustration is setting in.

  • Phar Lap

    Mr Sheepman alias Shearer a person of peculiar ethnic extraction.Came to Parliament ,or at least tried to and got his arse kicked.in 2002.Has never had a real job in his life,now he is embracing the same type freeloader as himself.True what most bloggers here are saying .That church is no more than a breeding ground for dissidents and bludgers.It is no wonder Shearer wants to join them,to get a free ride onto the treasury benches.

    • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

      Sir Phar Lap – I got some bad news for you.

      1. Curryleaf has panicked and now trying to get a plum ministerial post in Sheep’s cabinet in 2014. Sheep absolutely rules the roost now

      2. Ratana Church will now be part of Labour. So all Maori seats will be won by Sheep’s mates. So Emperor’s slim chance of getting Maori party support is gone

      3. “Mr Shearer, I hope that in 12 months time that you and your government will be successful with a coalition.” – Ruia Aperehama. My spies in Maoridom tell me that Ruia can see the future. So Emperor is toast.

      Any of the Tories who contribute to Whale Oil blog’s dispute any of my statements? If you do I will get you a job in beehive when Sheep takes over. If not book a flight now to Oz.

  • davcav

    Hmmm, wonder how the left’s position is going to hold up remembering the rants over The Exclusive Brethren.

    • Mr Sackunkrak

      Oh, but that’s, that’s, well, err, umm …. it’s just different, OK.

    • Meg

      Given Labour have a very long history with Ratana, and this has never been something carried out behind the backs of people – unlike the whole Brethren carry on, Labour has nothing to explain to the likes of you.

      • Magor

        A bit touchy this morning..?

  • fozzie2

    “There is no place in politics for affiliate memberships of political parties with special rights and privileges.”
    No, no need for monies filtered through blind trusts either ….

    • Lofty

      Details please

    • Jester

      C’mon Fozzie, don’t be bringing Len Brown into this discussion!

  • Yoni

    It is bloody disgusting the unions being able to donate to the labour party. Overheard a union meeting with external delegate the other day, it was almost brain washing.

  • Troy

    If Shearer and his pack of losers need to depend on Ratana to get back into power, then really all is lost. He is desparate, seeking attention from people already let down in the past (and who have long memories) by Labour jerkoffs and has fallen into the trap of pulling out the sookie hankie to gain attention – what a fucking loser.

    • Meg

      Until very recently, Labour and Ratana have always been close.

      That’s like saying if Key needs the support of the business round table to get back in then he is really lost.

      • LesleyNZ

        Yeah and Labour and Ratana were scratching each others backs! Religion should not be mixing with politics – and add the Unions to the equation as well.

      • kehua

        Bullshit Meg, Labour walked out on Ratana about 35 years ago.

  • Richard McGrath

    Agreed – last year I tried to parody the silliness of politicians sucking up to religion by approaching the Jedi Church on behalf of Libertarianz. This led to some amusing exchanges via press releases.

  • steve and monique

    Seems like more arse kissing to a group of people holding the majority of the country to ransom. The place will be fucked if ever this collection of fools get in.

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