Gay Marriage debate could cost the Conservatives

Recent polling is showing that the gay marriage debate is costing the Conservatives big time.

Divisions over gay marriage could cost the Conservatives enough votes to force them out of power at the next election, a new poll suggests.

One in five of voters who supported the party in 2010 would “definitely not” do so again if the Coalition presses ahead with the change, it found.

Even though a majority of Conservative voters polled insisted they would stay with the party, the loss of a fifth of its support would be enough to force it out of power.  

On Friday night some Conservative MPs described the findings as a “wake up call” to David Cameron, just a few days before the Commons votes for the first time on legalsing gay marriage.

But Tory supporters of the change dismissed the poll, which was commissioned by the Coalition for Marriage, which campaigns against same-sex unions, as “skewed”.

They argued that a bigger long term danger to the party would be to fail to recognize a shift in attitudes in society on issues such as homosexuality.

 


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  • And what are they going to do, vote for the loony social liberals in Labour?

  • Could cost the Tories the next election? Heck I hope the Poms have a bit more sense then this as casting out the Tories means Hello Labour which would most likely put the legislation through anyway

    As well as, tax and spend, dumping the EU vote, more Smart Growth policies etc

    Worst of Both Worlds in England?

  • Gazzaw

    I don’t care what the polls say very few Brit Conservatives will be prepared to die in a ditch over gay marriage.

    • dotcom

      Interesting to note that GG’s comment-count reset itself to zero this afternoon. Very astute of you, Mr Gazzaw. I take my hat off to you.

      • Gayguy

        I bet it does every single day.

        And I think I know why.

  • Redneck

    The state of the Conservatives is even more dire than that of the National Party, whereby a collective of foolish liberals and their advisers believe that they are “detoxifying the brand”.

    Reading the first draft of the gay marriage bill introduced by the British Government just recently, we see that adultery laws, and adultery as a primal driver of divorce or annulment of a marriage will not apply to homosexuals. (No prize for guessing why !)

    “A 2010 study from England entitled, “Gay Monogamy: I Love You But I Can’t Have Sex
    With Only You”, found that none of the gay couples in the study defined
    monogamy as sexual exclusivity. In fact, they all engaged in sex with
    outside partners, even though they professed to be in a monogamous
    relationship.”

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00918360903445962

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268689/Concept-adultery-abolished-law-grounds-divorce-wake-Government-s-plans-gay-marriage.html#axzz2JlumTKPS

  • cows4me

    God that place is turning into a liberal shit hole. Sounds more like gay Marxists playing the old game of divide and conquer. Oh yes you must support gay marriage you’ll lose heaps of support should you chose the wrong path. Pigs arse , stand for principles or live on your knees continually appeasing the screaming fruitcakes.

    • Gayguy

      So I take you will be joining the throngs of rednecks leaving NZ later this year when marriage equality becomes law.

      • Bafacu

        Gayguy, why is it that anyone with a contrary opinion to you is either a redneck, homophobe, or hater? Apparently diversity of opinion and the ability to espouse different views in dialogue is not high on your personal attributes.

        • Gayguy

          It is all in how you put forward your position. I have yet to see one on here that is not filled with mistruths, stupidity, hate etc…

  • dotcom

    Times change. But of course if it were possible to conduct a referendum of all the people who ever walked on this planet, then gay marriage would lose about 2.5 to 97.5 percent. Pity a fraction of the current 1 percent think that all others throughout ALL history have been numbskulls. So we have about 10 percent of the world’s current population thinking that all the billions who have lived through all the millennia were entirely numbskulls.
    Oh, to be one of the enlightened few modern Westerners who know everything to the exclusion of SO MANY hundreds of billions of others.

    • Gayguy

      Wow, yet another amazingly stupid argument against equality from DC.

      Gather all from history and hold a poll and I bet slavery would be legal. Just because it has been “the way” for so long does not mean it is something we should keep doing.

      • dotcom

        Okay, I accept that my premise is flimsy, but I’m sticking with the proven 97.5 percent anyway.
        How would a world-wide referendum of current adults go, Gayguy? Maybe 10 percent gay marriage: 90 percent against? What would you reckon?

        • Gayguy

          I really do not care what hate states in Africa or the Middle East think about gay rights. I do not care if they subscribe to massive piles of bullshit made up facts as you do.

          They will come to their senses in time and they will change too. Just as the Western world is moving towards a better world for all.

          And I believe that, going by your rules, YOU have the burden of proof for your 97.5% comment.

          • dotcom

            No, it’s not my rules, it’s rules of debate. But in this case, I confess to my having made up the 97.5 percent of all humans who ever walked who have opposed gay marriage, or never saw it as an option. Indeed, on review, I’d claim closer to 99 percent. People have their own brains, and can take or leave my estimation. As yet, I haven’t seen any opposition to the then 97.5 percent – now 99 percent – suggestion. The point is. What right do we have, in 2013 in a particularly small corner of the world, to tell 99 percent of all the people that ever walked on this Earth, that they were all wrong, and now we have suddenly seen the light, and all of human history should be re-written? The egotism in such a pronouncement is staggering.

          • Gayguy

            Lord you are amusingly thick and bigoted.

            And I thought banned for a week.

          • dotcom

            I won’t respond by returning you rudeness in calling me thick, bigoted and amusing – it isn’t my style.
            But as is typical of you, you thought wrong. I was banned from only one thread – not this one.

          • Gayguy

            My conditions???

            Oh lord your stupidity is showing. Yet again.

          • dotcom

            The hosts of WOBH are watching me like a hawk. Other commenters can insult me to their heart’s content, but if I so much as raise a murmur in response, the hosts come down on me like a tonne of bricks. So I will not respond to your rudeness in kind. For your part, feel free to insult me with impunity.

          • Gayguy

            Paranoid much?

      • dotcom

        Little ol’ New Zealand.
        (a) Last country on Earth to abolish slavery. 0 points
        (b) First to give the vote to women. 10 points
        (c) Last country to allow gay marriage. 5000 points.

        • Gayguy

          What?

          • dotcom

            Little ol’ New Zealand .
            (a) Last country on Earth to abolish slavery. 0 points
            (b) First to give the vote to women. 10 points
            (c) Last country to allow gay marriage. 5000 points.

          • Gayguy

            And?????

      • dotcom

        HIV/AIDS is transmitted primarily via unprotected sexual intercourse
        Prevention of HIV infection, primarily through safe sex
        AIDS was first clinically observed in 1981 in the United States
        In the general press, the term “GRID”, which stood for gay-related immune deficiency, was coined
        Source (c&p and untouched) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids#History

        • Gayguy

          Yes, but how did it all start? The very start.

          • dotcom

            Adam ate an apple from the forbidden tree, apparently.

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