The average person has been brainwashed to believe rich people are lucky or dishonest

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Average people think MONEY is the root of all evil.
Rich people believe POVERTY is the root of all evil.

Average people think selfishness is a vice.
Rich people think selfishness is a virtue.

Average people have a lottery mentality.
Rich people have an action mentality.

Average people think the road to riches is paved with formal education.
Rich people believe in acquiring specific knowledge.

Average people long for the good old days.
Rich people dream of the future.

Average people see money through the eyes of emotion.
Rich people think about money logically.

Average people earn money doing things they don’t love.
Rich people follow their passion.

Average people set low expectations so they’re never disappointed.
Rich people are up for the challenge.

Average people believe you have to DO something to get rich.
Rich people believe you have to BE something to get rich.

Average people believe you need money to make money.
Rich people use other people’s money.

Average people believe the markets are driven by logic and strategy.
Rich people know they’re driven by emotion and greed.

Average people live beyond their means.
Rich people live below theirs.

Average people teach their children how to survive.
Rich people teach their kids to get rich.

Average people let money stress them out.
Rich people find peace of mind in wealth.

Average people would rather be entertained than educated.
Rich people would rather be educated than entertained.

Average people think rich people are snobs.
Rich people just want to surround themselves with like-minded people.

Average people focus on saving.
Rich people focus on earning.

Average people play it safe with money.
Rich people know when to take risks.

Average people love to be comfortable.
Rich people find comfort in uncertainty.

Average people never make the connection between money and health.
Rich people know money can save your life.

Average people believe they must choose between a great family and being rich.
Rich people know you can have it all.
Source: Business Insider

 


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  • Pete George

    Not just average people, the new Labour spokesperson on Economic Development has just written in a column:

    “…our tax system needs reform to stop our wealthiest citizens avoiding their share of tax.”

    He doesn’t say how he will address it. Labour’s ‘economic development’ needs development

    • johnbronkhorst

      Typical socialist bullshit, so don’t be surprised.
      To roughly quote lenin We crush the rich between the mill stones of high inflation and high taxation.

      • peterwn

        Shows how much Lenin knew. He must have assumed that the ‘rich’ had cash, fixed interest investments, or ran pawnbrokers, but did not own real estate etc.

        • johnbronkhorst

          lenin actually said Bousoursie, but as you can see, I can’t spell that.

          • StupidDiscus

            State school, huh?

    • JeffDaRef

      Nor does he say how he feels they are CURRENTLY “avoiding” tax.
      Dollar to a knob of goat poo, whatever he cites will have holes in it a mile wide…
      Stupid Labour always over-complicate tax by trying to design formulas that nail those at the top while not affecting their core voters – but then need to write in exceptions so they dont totally stuff those trying to run businesses. Then they bitch and moan at those who use the exceptions….
      Yawn!

  • Andrei

    16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:

    17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?

    18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.

    19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

    20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

    21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

    • blokeintakapuna

      Thou hast whatif with thine Engish?
      In the immortal words of Manual from Faulty Towers… ” Huh?”

    • blazer

      did he find a place to put his….nuts?

    • Ronnie Chow

      How about ;

      1/ Look after your own.

      2/ Don’t fuck with people .

      That should do it .

      • Bunswalla

        3. Don’t run anybody over

        • Ronnie Chow

          Covered by 2/.

          If only that cyclist riding out of Taupo had followed 2/ , he wouldn’t be in hospital .

    • StupidDiscus

      The rich man in his castle, the poor man at his gate.
      GOD made them, high or lowly, and ordered their estate.

  • cows4me

    Agree to most and I’m guess I’m in the average category. Have relations who could be described as rich and many of what is claimed for rich people is right on the money. But what the post talks about is material wealth and all the material wealth can not always make you rich in the way you wish to run your life.

  • johnbronkhorst

    To upset many….Your circumstances are what YOU want them to be…otherwise…YOU… would change them.
    A story told to me.
    I went to a friends house for dinner. Disconcertingly, the dog in their back yard was howling and crying all night.
    Finally I asked. Why is your dog crying? My friend answered: He is sitting on a nail. I, naturally said. Why doesn’t he move? My friend replied….Because it doesn’t hurt enough yet!!!!….Does this apply to anyone you know?

    • blazer

      no I dont know anyone whose dog is sitting on a nail.There are however alot of deluded/ignorant people who do not understand the corrupt financial system of ever increasing debt and interest that can never be repaid.

      • StupidDiscus

        And there are far far more bludging scum who, simply, deserve to starve in the gutter.

        • blazer

          dont blow a foo foo valve stupid.

  • Some of those questions are double loaded there – in regards do you have a moral conscious or not. Also you need to follow some of those questions with a very black and white – tight English interpretation of the question with this particular question being an example:
    Average people think MONEY is the root of all evil.
    Rich people believe POVERTY is the root of all evil

    Still I had to answer some of those as an average person rather than a rich person because of my moral conscious

    Cam it seems these questions though are in a vacuum and in my interpretation think you are an atheist. How would one answer if they followed their beliefs…

    • StupidDiscus

      You have as much of a “moral conscious” as you have a “moral couscous”.

      State education.

  • sheppy

    Or as demonstrated by this

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

    The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”.. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

    The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

    As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

    To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. (Please pass this on) These are possibly the 5 best sentences you’ll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

    1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

    2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

    3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

    4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

    5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

    • Bunswalla

      Just so I understand, what do you mean by “Obama’s socialism”?

      • sheppy

        I think it applies to Socialism in general

        • Bunswalla

          Got it. So “Obama’s socialism” and specifically “Obama’s plan” – they’re just made up terms, is that it?

          • sheppy

            Dunno, I found it on Facebook and couldn’t have put it better in words myself.
            I’d guess you could easily substitute “Obama’s Socialism” for “Greek Socialism” or “Labours Socialism” if you wanted to rewrite it.
            If everyone read and understood that article and the message behind it perhaps the world wouldn’t be in the same financial mess it is in right now.

          • james smith

            lolz…”found it on facebook”…cut n paste

            I’m sorry, but my understanding of the root causes of the latest Global Financial crisis was something to do with the tanking in US Mortgage Backed Securities, and their complex derivatives; as traded by large commercial “credible” instituions such as Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch.. pretty much the bastions of capitalism. So perhaps excessive greed had more to do with it than “Obama’s Socialism” (completely ignoring the fact that the crisis started under Bush II’s governance! – a Republican)

            As quoted by the US Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission:
            “the crisis was avoidable and was caused by: Widespread failures in financial regulation, including the Federal Reserve’s failure to stem the tide of toxic mortgages; Dramatic breakdowns in corporate governance including too many financial firms acting recklessly and taking on too much risk; An explosive mix of excessive borrowing and risk by households and Wall Street that put the financial system on a collision course with crisis; Key policy makers ill prepared for the crisis, lacking a full understanding of the financial system they oversaw; and systemic breaches in accountability and ethics at all levels.“

            source:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_late-2000s_financial_crisis
            source Wikipedia

          • sheppy

            That Wikipedia article is by and large factually correct.

            Indeed a little reported fact is the UK Labour Government who claimed to have abolished “boom and bust” reorganised the UK financial regulators from one organisation into three. Each one didn’t exactly know what the other one was doing and the impending GFC wasn’t spotted. If the reorganisation wouldn’t have happened the GFC would have been a lot less severe if it would have happened at all.

            The GFC has however lasted much longer due to the tax & spend socialist policies in most of Europe. Once even a small glitch happened things unraveled very quickly as the cost of benefits far exceeded tax revenues. In Greece Unemployment was at 27% back in November and much of Europe is in a similar state. The spend more than you earn debt can has been kicked further down the road but it will return.

          • Patrick

            Abolished boom & bust. That’ll be the claim made by Chancellor Gordon Brown when he was a member of Tony Blair’s Labour Government. It was his claim to fame prior to becoming Prime Minister. Where is he now when the questions need answering?

            Oh & by the way he is a former history scholar (& journalist) must be something about history scholars that attempt to run the finances of a country. Just like Cullen he left the joint in a stinking mess.

    • unsol

      There’s heaps of these things. Question is, who is rich?

      My definition: being able to pay bills – whether usual or out of the blue (say up to $1k) without worrying about how you are going to put food on the table.

      My definition of poor? No one in NZ. The welfare system pays enough for people to make their basic needs. If you choose to have heaps of kids, buy a house based on best case scenario income, subscribed to sky, drink, smoke, put your kids school uniforms on lay-by so you can buy a smart phone then more fool you.

      As for metaphors. My preference is tax explained in beer:

      Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this ……

      The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
      The fifth would pay $1.
      The sixth would pay $3.
      The seventh would pay $7.
      The eighth would pay $12.
      The ninth would pay $18.
      The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

      So, that’s what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20”. Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.

      The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men ? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

      So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

      And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
      The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
      The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
      The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
      The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
      The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).

      Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

      “I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,”but he got $10!” “Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!” “That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2 ? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

      “Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!”

      The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up.

      The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enoughmoney between all of them for even half of the bill!

      And that, boys and girls, journalists and government officials, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

      • Patrick

        Praise be brother

        • unsol

          Sister :)

      • Polish pride

        See alcohol is the cause of so many problems in society. This would never have happened if you’d substituted beer for cannabis :)

        • unsol

          Haha so true. And you’re back!

  • DangerousE

    have read this before, and rings true. think about the robin hood story must have been written by a socialist. Anyway if you want wealth and you answer like an average person than expect to be average.

    • johnbronkhorst

      No…I believe the robin hood story was written by a right winger. As the story is often misquoted, as robbing from the rich to give to the poor. When in fact, robin hood robbed from the government (taxes from the sheriff of Nottingham and prince john) and returned it to the tax payer (the poor).

      • DangerousE

        really? always the victims huh. It just feeds the loser belief that rich people are pricks, aspire to nothing and give me more for nothing. The story maybe misquoted but it is this misquote that people know.

        • blazer

          does not validate it though does it?Try studying some history about feudalism and the times when kings ruled England.It may broaden your outlook and understanding of class dynamics.

      • Mr_Blobby

        I liked the one about the American bank robber who also took the mortgage paperwork and destroyed them.

  • A=random=reader

    Some rich people are lucky, and some rich people are dishonest.

    The same is true of poor people.

    In fact, it’s true of any group of people.

  • blazer

    I don’t believe the contention that the ave person has been brainwashed to believe rich people are lucky or dishonest.I believe the middle class have been brainwashed to believe the poor deserve to be and that they have a hope of joining the rich…p.s they dont.Vital to capitalism and inequality that they aspire to ‘prosperity’,when the reality is that they are but hamsters in the wheel for maintaining the status quo.

    • In Vino Veritas

      What a load of utter poppy cock blazer. If this is so, how then, as the son of a truck driver and a housewife, how have I become rich? And how have several of my mates done the same from similar (and worse) backgrounds?
      Poor people are that because they fail to take the opportunities presented to them. No other reason than that. Essentially, they, through the choices they make, choose to stay poor. (and because it doesn’t take any effort).

      • blazer

        how rich are you?You think debt is wealth.!As I have said and is obvious..you cannot have rich’ people without a whole lot of poor people.

        • In Vino Veritas

          blazer, you said “brainwashed to believe the poor deserve to be and that they have a hope of joining the rich…p.s they dont.”
          I, and a good few of my mates are proof that you can get rich. On how much, that’s my business. After all, you are spouting about being “rich” and being “poor” without putting numbers around how much you have to have or not have, to fall into either of these categories. You could almost be quoting from Labour Party prompt cards.
          My ability to digest and comprehend anything to do with economics and finance is light years ahead of yours, given some of the dross that you have previously written.

          • blazer

            self praise ,based on anecdotal ,unverified evidence…btw check the thread title…’rich’ is not defined.

          • Polish pride

            economics and finance are two disciplines that stop someone from understanding the real problem that a functioning and working system needs to solve for the people within it. Lucky for you intelligence and logic will enable you to get over those handicaps :)

      • Mr_Blobby

        I think you are both right. At some stage in your life you have to, honestly, ask yourself the question how much is enough.

        Your wealth may be more imagined than real. Lets say the Worlds financial markets do implode, how much do you really think your kiwisaver, will really be worth. If inflation takes over and interest rates go through the roof. What do you think your house, will really be worth.

        The population is kept ignorant of the dangers around them by distractions like what is happening to the in the latest celebrity meltdown or reality show, cooking show, etc.

        All the shit that is happening around the World couldn’t possibly happen here.

  • Patrick

    I don’t want to work – but I do want to help myself to some of the fruits of your hard work. Seems to be the attitude these days, everyone has their hands out expecting something for nothing. The reality is no one rides for free so get off your ass, get a job & pay your way. Stop thieving from my pay packet.

    • blazer

      there is such a thing as a free ride.Private bankers print money and lend it out at interest.Best game in town by a wide margin.

      • Patrick

        Talking crap again I see – which private bankers have printing presses printing money?

        • blazer

          start with the Federal Reserve…which controls the worlds default commercial currency,then try the ECB,oh ..then the Brits banking system.Hope that helps.In case you’re being obtuse re physical ‘printing’…replace with data entry.

          • Patrick

            ECB is not privately owned, it is controlled by the European Union Member Countries. The European Union are the biggest bunch of socialists going around so it is a bit of a stretch to accuse them of being a private banker.

            Federal Reserve is not privately owned, it has public & private components, it has a Board of Governers who are appointed by the President of the USA, a 6% dividend is paid to the US Treasury. The US Treasury creates the currency used by the Federal reserve.
            Therefore it is pretty obvious the Fed is not some private institution printing money willy nilly to enrich themselves.

          • blazer

            ‘Although the ECB is governed by European law directly and thus not by corporate law applying to private law companies, its set-up resembles that of a corporation in the sense that the ECB has shareholders and stock capital. Its capital is five billion euro which is held by the national central banks of the member states as shareholders’……’as for the Fed,it controls the allocation of money.Re Q.E it decides who gets the funds…they had to disclose the 22,000 organisations they lent money to…raised many eyebrows when the recipients were identified.Banks in the west are privately owned as a rule and practice ‘fractional reserve ‘ banking…which as I’m sure you know…creates money out of thin air!

          • Patrick

            Getting back to your original point – there is still no free ride – or shouldn’t be. When the banks got into problems during the GFC they should have been allowed to fail, their “private” shareholders should have lost their investments & gold plated lifestyles. Instead the socialist governments, including Obama & Key decided to underwrite the banks commitments with taxpayer money. The end result was the bankers instead of taking a hit rewarded themselves with further bonuses & other rewards – all straight out of the taxpayers’ pocket. Right now there should be a queue of ex bankers a mile long at the soup kitchens, but because of socialist governments instead the very taxpayers that prop up the banks are the ones taking it up the chuff.

          • blazer

            totally agree with everything you state.

    • Mr_Blobby

      You are absolutely without a doubt right. But that will that not change anything, the only way forward is to join the revolution and put your hand out to get something for nothing.

      The sooner the system collapses under its own weight the better. It is easier to go with the flow, than to push water back uphill.

  • Ed Snack

    Get the quote right, it’s “the love of money is the root of all evil” not “money is the root…”

    Does make a difference, one can be rich and moral.

    • Bunswalla

      Yes but unless you have a very skinny camel and a very big needle you’re not going to heaven. Or some shit like that.

  • Sarrs

    I think people need to sort their shit out. The amount of times I’ve heard the words ‘just one lucky break and we’ll be fine’ – then that break comes but, unsurprisingly, isn’t the silver bullet to solve one’s financial issues. Then they begin looking for the next ‘lucky break’ and the cycle repeats. People wandering about the place, passively awaiting ‘luck’ to solve their problems.

    There is a saying, something like ‘the harder I work, the luckier I get’ but I think that needs to be refined somewhat. In my experience the saying should be ‘the less debt I have, the happier and wealthier I am’

    Rich people get that way by managing debt better than poor people. It’s just a skill that some people have while others don’t. You can’t say it’s not fair, that would be like saying it’s not fair that Richie is better at rugby than me.

    • Bunswalla

      Most people don’t recognise opportunity because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work.

      • unsol

        Awesome.

    • unsol

      Or the less lotto, sky, ciggys, booze, kids or gas guzzling dirty SUVs or loser cruisers I have the less financial stress I am under….

      Managing a budget including debt – not rocket science. You just have to be willing to accept that in a world of consumerism & instant gratification with fast tracks to almost everything in life (lotto = wealth, reality TV shows = fame & fortune) that for most people, if you want something you have to be patient, head down & bum up & work for it.

      It’s not something that requires a very high IQ, but it is something that requires some self control.

      • Sarrs

        I think people should learn how to manage their money properly before they’re allowed to get into debt. Stupid debt is the financial ruin of people.
        For example, have a proven savings track record (bank statements can show that) or prove that they have had and maintained a utility account for at least 12 months – paying on time and keeping it current.

        At least one of those things (or both) should be required before any Tom, Dick or Harry can get a mortgage, a hire purchase, a credit card or an overdraft.

        • unsol

          Completely agree….but I’m not surprised…you’re a CA :)

          Re the interest free carrot that so many muppets get caught out on, I would like to go one step further: if you dont have the savings upfront then you shouldnt be able to buy something on credit. If you do then you can & get to earn more interest on your savings while paying off the interest free portion (whether deferred or not) so that that it is clear by the time the interest free period expires.

      • StupidDiscus

        You have to accept that you and your family are losers. bludgers. peons.

        Less than 400,000 people in NZ are nett tax payers – independent human beings. The rest are bludgers.

        • Hazards001

          As I pay far more in tax than I will ever get back I guess that makes me one of your 400,000…God give me the strength and courage to never become as arrogant self centered and self absorbed by it as you are.

          • unsol

            The 400,000 is an odd figure. A nett taxpayer is someone who is earning $120,000 – so top 17% or more than $150,000 – top 10%.

            A really good post on it was actually done ages ago by DF – “10% of households pay 71% of net (income) taxation and 17% pay 97% of net (income) taxation”

            see http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/07/net_taxpayers.html

            IRD also has some great info on it…..

        • unsol

          Feck off stupid, assumptions make you an ass. You assume that my family are not nett taxpayers (which we are so stick that up where the sun doesnt shine) yet the question is are YOU?

          And by nett I also include ACC, health, education etc etc. Where were you born? Have you paid enough taxes to cover the cost of your birth, that of your spouse, your children, your future retirement…as what’s the bet you will be the first to hold your hand out for NZ Super if it is still around (unlikely if you are in your 30s). I know we have more than paid our way & we will continue to do so. That is the pleasure we get from high income earned via very long hours that do little but attract large tax & ACC bills.

          I know you like private education – but have you had private all the way through from kindy to uni….you do realise that the government subsidises ALL uni fees dont you? Paid enough in taxes for that? And what about your kids…your emotional maturity indicates someone not capable of having children, but if you have, are they in private education & have private health care all the way through?

          And what about ACC? Are you employee, employer or self-employed? We are the latter and have to pay $1.57 more per $100 of income – including employer contributions – than an employee doing the exact same job. Despite the fact that it is the employees who drive up the claims & therefore our levies.

          You want to make wild statements you better make sure you are not a bloody hypocrite….

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  • StupidDiscus

    A few people have value and deserve all they have and more

    The vast majority are bludgers and don’t even deserve a gutter to starve in.

    For whoever has, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whoever has not, from him shall be taken away even that he has. Matt 13:12

    • Hazards001

      You’ve been sticking your head in the paint cupboard again and then closing it on your neck haven’t you?

      • unsol

        Pawned……hahaha that is laugh out loud funny! Love it, must steal that one-liner!

        • Hazards001

          Welcome to it…I stole Gazzas Mad Butcher one…only fair

  • StupidDiscus

    The biggest problem with this list is that at least 90% of people are below average.

    If you don’t understand that, you were clearly state educated and are therefore – well below average. Here’s a simple example. Take 10 NZ citizens. 5 of them are dependents or bludgers – zero income and wealth. 2 of ’em are civil service bludgers/teachers/ etc – say $50K income. 2 of ’em are privately employed – say $30K income. One of them is an independently wealthy, valuable, businessman: say a farmer – $1,000K income.

    Total income = (0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 50 + 50 + 30 + 30 + 1000) = 1160

    Average income = 1160 / 10 = 116K.

    Nine out of ten Kiwis have below average income

    This is exactly the same reason 9 out of 10 Kiwis are above average drivers: less than 10% of drivers cause all the accidents

52%