Why the Left hate Thatcher

The left wing hate Margaret Thatcher. Here is just a small insight into why:

Given the venom with which Labour supporters attack the former PM, you’d think that when their party finally came to power in 1997, it reversed every one of her hateful policies. In fact, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown guarded the Thatcher legacy as lovingly as if she’d been a grocer’s daughter born and bred in Islington. Her successors kept the privatisation and kept at bay the trade unions.

This makes me suspicious. If Labour can live with Margaret Thatcher’s policies, what is it about her that they find so unacceptable?

When I say the left hate Margaret Thatcher I really do mean hate… it is deep seated, here are the two reasons they hate her the most. 

First, she disproved Labour’s favourite myth: Tories appeal only to toffs. She led her party to win three general elections on the trot, and she didn’t need a military coup to do so.

Secondly, she’s a woman. The party that pays lip service to equality and feminism is, behind the scenes, deeply misogynist. Labour historians like to claim that Barbara Castle could have beaten Thatcher to be the first woman prime minister. But Castle was only allowed to rise to Cabinet ministerial level; and her biography, Red Queen, revealed that Wilson, Healey, Jenkins and Crosland kept her firmly in her place by reminding her that her female brain had scraped a third‑class degree.

I remember following the former Blair babe, Oona King, on her campaign trail when she took on George Galloway in Bethnal Green and Bow. Galloway was positively charming about his rival in comparison to what her male Labour colleagues said behind her back. They were jealous that big hitters from the party were parachuted in to help King’s campaign: who was this jumped-up girl?

Harriet Harman and Diane Abbott are tolerated as noisy sisters; but the minute they aspire to higher office, the sniping starts. Labour women must not get ideas above their station. A woman who climbs to the very top wrongfoots the party’s apparatchiks. Working mothers are fine, as long as they are drones who contribute to the economy. Tokenism in the board room is also acceptable, as a female non-exec has little real bearing on what happens in the company.

But don’t let some uppity woman start bossing everyone about. Margaret Thatcher, née Roberts, did. Her extraordinary career has exposed Labour as the party of men.

 


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  • TeacherUnionsRscum

    She saved the UK from the commies – and the proles don’t see that

    • Patrick

      Yep & Blair’s New Labour destroyed the UK & turned it into the dumping ground for the idle thieving rorting immigrants that they encouraged – because they wanted their votes. Blair’s New Labour pursuit of power has ruined the UK.

    • StupidDiscus

      Benefits. Comprehensives. NHS.

      Thatcher did better than anyone else – but she was the first to admit that she didn’t do anywhere nearly enough

      If she had her time again, she would have moved far further and far, far faster.

  • Positan

    The types who uphold Labour as their creed always focus FAR, FAR more on the person as an individual and on whatever personal trait they can attack, than the politics or policies for which that person stands. Their only political interest stems from how policy can be structured to benefit them. They have no interest in the greater good – or what’s good for all. Only what will benefit them.

    In short, the vast bulk of dedicated Labour/leftist types are possessed of a nasty, personally-destructive outlook and a negative disposition.

  • Mitch82

    I just hate listening to people who need their dentures relined. Other than that, you can see where our politicians learned the kindergarten word games instead of getting things done.

  • In Vino Veritas

    Socialism is, has always been, and will always be, a one trick pony, nothing more, nothing less. And that is why it has never suceeded anywhere in the world. Redistribution from the productive to the less, or unproductive has always disincentivised the productive, and will continue to do so whilst mankind exists.
    Thatchers comments about the wealth gap mirror Barry Colmans when he said that people in NZ had never been wealthier. And that is true. Labour and the Greens both spout wealth gap nonsense. They believe, as Thatcher said, that it is better for poor to be less well off as long as the rich are not as rich.

    • blazer

      great observation …but only if you believe that debt is wealth’…Capitalism is in its death throes,in case you weren’t aware.Pure communism doesn’t work,nor does pure capitalism.

      • In Vino Veritas

        Ah blazer. And here was I thinking you’d dissappeared. I see you are showing fpr all to see, your economic and financial ineptitude. Again.

        • blazer

          in what way?Are you suggesting debt equals wealth as Greenspan and his acolytes have espoused for the years leading up to financial gridlock?

          • blokeintakapuna

            If capitalism isn’t the answer… Then what is?

            Sure, it’s not perfect, but its the most advanced system the world has, where an individual can progress on their own merit. Capitalism is so good in fact, it’s the only system that supports those that can’t support themselves. Here in NZ it even supports those that elect not to support themselves or their dependants.

            So please detail a better system for all of NZinc…. And one that won’t compromise our existing international treaties and responsibilities?

          • blazer

            as usual,its appears to be a happy medium,socialism is the closest ‘brand’.Mind you what exactly is Russia practising these days,and China.Interesting times in Ecuador ,who have a leader versed in economics.Capitalism is not the only doctrine that supports the weak,vulnerable and exploited.As for international treaties ,the big capitalist the U.S comprimises them every day with impunity.

          • StupidDiscus

            .Capitalism is not the only doctrine that supports the weak,vulnerable and exploited

            Capitalism does not support the weak,vulnerable and exploited.

            That is the entire fucking point

            As Jesus said: to those who have much. more will be given!
            To those who have little – the little they have will be taken away!

          • blazer

            you need to direct that at blokeintakapuna…it is his strongly held belief.

          • In Vino Veritas

            blazer, happy medium socialism doesn’t exist. It’s capitalism in drag. On your contention that “children across Europe are being driven into poverty by harsh Government austerity”, its not austerity that’s doing it, its the fact that people have had children they cannot afford. Same as in the States, where people borrowed money they couldn’t afford to repay. Living beyond your means always ends up in tears (see Greece). Thats the long and short of it.

          • blazer

            nothing ends in tears if you are ‘too big to fail’…one rule for some and one for the priveleged.For the sake of coming generations surely we need to at least look at finding a better way.

          • In Vino Veritas

            You mean stop living beyond your means?

          • blazer

            a quick look at per capita debt will reveal the western world has been living beyond its so called ‘means’ for decades!Banking reform is needed.The smoke and mirrors financial sector has made a mockery of the relationship of work/production to wealth.These 3rd party parasites have undermined modern civilisation.

          • In Vino Veritas

            bloke, capitalism is the answer, though people like blazer would have you think otherwise. Far from being in its death throws, its in its infancy. Socialism in its true sense is long dead. Only radical economic fundamentalists believe otherwise. What blazer and his ilk are, is semi-capitalists. Sort of like semi-vegetarians who eat fish and or chicken. Semi capitalists want a socialist outlook with capitalism as the only means to provide the funds and innovation. So, the unproductive get to bludge of the productive, and sooner or later this collapses, since the productive get sick of producing and stop, giving rise to the blazers of this worlds contention that capitalism is dead. Wrong dead though I’m afraid.

          • blazer

            I gather you think that financial service industries ala Wall St are somehow productive and not parasites.Please expand on your theories.

          • Bunswalla

            You’re telling the story mate, why don’t you expand on your theories? People here may not wish to hear them, unlike me, so please just fax me the details.

          • blazer

            a starter for you…’Derivatives are financial instruments based on other financial instruments – paper based on paper. Derivatives are one giant step away from the world of production and consumption, plant and equipment, wages and employment in the production of tangible physical wealth or hard commodities. In the present hysteria of the globalized financial oligarchy, the very term of “derivative” has become taboo: commentators prefer to speak of toxic assets, complex securities, exotic instruments, and counterparty arrangements. At the time of the Bear Stearns bankruptcy, Bernanke warned against “chaotic unwinding.” All of these code words are signals that derivatives are being talked about. Derivatives include such exchange traded speculative instruments as options and futures; beyond these are the over-the-counter derivatives, structured notes, and designer derivatives. Derivatives include the credit default swaps so prominent in the fall of AIG, collateralized debt obligations, structured investment vehicles, asset-backed securities, mortgage backed securities, auction rate securities, and a myriad of other toxic variations. These derivatives, in turn, are pyramided one on top of the other, thus creating a house of cards reaching into interplanetary space.

            As long as this huge mass of kited derivatives was experiencing positive cash flow and positive leverage, the profits generated at the apex of the pyramid were astronomical. But disturbances at the base of the pyramid turned the cash flow and exponential leverage negative, and the losses at the top of the pyramid became immense and uncontrollable. By 2005-6, the disturbances were visible in the form of a looming crisis of the automobile sector, plus the slowing of the housing bubble cynically and deliberately created by the Federal Reserve in the wake of the collapse of the dot com bubble, the third world debt bubble. and the other asset bubbles favored by Greenspan. Financiers are trying to blame the current depression on poor people who acquired properties with the help of subprime mortgages, and then defaulted, thus – it is alleged — bringing down the entire world banking system! This is a fantastic and reactionary myth. The cause of the depression is derivatives, and this means that the perpetrators to be held responsible are not poor mortgage holders, but rather globalized investment bankers and hedge fund operators, the derivatives merchants. We are now in the throes of a world wide derivatives panic.’

          • blazer

            I hope its not in its infancy vino….’Children across Europe are being driven into poverty by harsh government austerity and youth unemployment is soaring, threatening to create “lost generations” that could fire up a new continental crisis.

            Global charity Caritas said on Thursday that around three out of every 10 children in Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Italy and Spain are in or have been pushed to the brink of poverty.

            Greece said its youth unemployment had now exceeded 60 percent. Spain’s is above 50 percent and Portugal has just topped 40 percent.

            Brussels based think tank Bruegel said the problem extended well beyond the debt-laden peripheral euro zone economies and could come back to reverse Europe’s slow recovery from financial crisis.

            In a report, Caritas said euro zone countries that have received international loans – plus Italy, which hasn’t – are creating a huge class of poorly-educated and poorly-fed young people with low morale and few job prospects.
            “This could be a recipe not just for one lost generation in Europe but for several lost generations,” Caritas said, citing the European Union’s own statistics.’

          • StupidDiscus

            being driven into poverty by harsh government austerity and youth unemployment is soaring,

            not fast enough – nowhere near fast enough!

            pushed to the brink of poverty

            Time to push them over! And – most of all – time to end the benefits that encourage all this scrounging, bludging, and dependence.

            Good for civil order too: it’s not the starving that riot – it’s the bored who feel entitled! Maggie didn’t end benefits (to her everlasting regret) and there were mass riots! When Ruth cut ’em – hardly a whisper.

          • blazer

            may not have been a whisper,but it led to her removal from a portfolio.

          • StupidDiscus

            If capitalism isn’t the answer… Then what is?

            Conservatism!

            The rich man in his castle; the poor man at his gate
            God made them high and lowly,: And ordered their estate.

  • Unions.Sux.Arse

    The hate from the left is still strong re Thatcher. When the recent UK riots were going on, British exciles and newly minted union reps were blaming the Thatcher years – despite the offenders born well after her time, and labour govt failing to undo Thatcher policy…..go figure ! She is 100% correct re left policies – they are policies of envy, and esnuring that the poor stay poor and reliant on the state…..

    • StupidDiscus

      That was battle Thatcher sadly lost – to get proper riot police to wipe out the strikers and rioters in the only way that has ever, actually worked.

  • Patrick

    The first guy challenging Thatcher is Simon Hughes, over the years he has shown himself to be a lying snivelling little whinger, didn’t even have the guts to stand up for what he is, once again it took the British Press to reveal the real Simon Hughes.

  • Tom

    That’s Baroness Thatcher thank you very much. Long may she live.

  • StupidDiscus

    Ahh we can be very very clear about why leftist hate Thatcher:

    because she hates them and wants them dead

    Thatcher wanted to wipe out trades unions. To wipe out benefits and bludgers. To wipe out state dependents and the sclerotic bureaucracies they create – especially the Comprehensive Schools and the NHS. Thatcher believes that those who not work – who have not made provision for themselves should starve – anything else is immoral.
    As she put it:

    “There is no such thing as society! There are only individuals!”

    Thatcher – and Ruth in NZ – did their level best to forces leftists to choose:
    – to move into the private sector, take actually productive jobs that earn real money, and then buy their own houses, their own education and healthcare — that is to cease being leftists
    – to starve in the gutter.

    And that’s why leftists hate Thatcher. Her policies? Never compromise. Never apologise. Never explain. The lady’s not for turining

    Would that so-called “right wingers” in NZ had even an ounce of her fortitude.

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