Gender quota wars last night inside the Greens

Read this email exchange from the Green taliban last night as they discuss gender balance for their list. Metiria Turei gets in on the act.

—–Original Message—–
From: Nancy Higgins [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 01:59 PM New Zealand Standard Time
To: Green Women; Rainbow Greens; [email protected]nz
Subject: [GW] gender remit

Hi all,

The Maunga Rua Branch’s remit from last year’s AGM has been carried over to this year. I am the contact person for this remit. The remit now reads.

“Remit One to Alternate Male/Female Ranking on the List

Proposer: Maunga Rua Branch

The Party List at each election shall comprise all odd ranked places filled by one gender, and even numbered places filled by the other gender.

The gender filling odd numbered places at any one election shall fill even numbered places at the following election.  The gender filling odd numbered places at the first election after this remit is adopted shall be determined by a coin toss.”  

I gave out some information about this remit last year, and, have since, siimplified and revised this information (see attached). ‘
We are seeking feedback about this remit, and I would certainly appreciate it, if you can indicate to me what questions you have, what issues you may have with it, and what amendments to the remit may address your questions or issues so that consensus may be reached.

We are considering amending the remit so that the final list can be adjusted for Maori, geographical, or youth representation, but that this adjustment would still need to retain its odd/even gender balance characteristic.

Regards

Nancy

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On 25/03/2013, at 2:21 PM, Metiria Turei wrote:

Kia ora Nancy,

My position remains the same as last year, that i oppose the remit and believe our current rules are sufficient. Its a bit of a bugger to have the debate again so soon after the last debate and i hope this doesn’t become an annual round, but hei aha.

Metiria

Sent with a proprietary device.

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From: On Behalf Of Nancy Higgins
Sent: Monday, 25 March 2013 8:08 p.m.
To: Metiria Turei
Cc: ‘Rainbow Greens’; ‘[email protected]‘; ‘Green Women’
Subject: Re: [GW] gender remit

Hi. We never did have the debate at the AGM, we ran out of time.

Why do you oppose it?

Do you just not believe in the even/odd numbered list? Or is it really just because you think that what we have now is the best that we can do

Nancy

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Sent: Monday, 25 March 2013 8:33 p.m.
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YG] RE: [GW] gender remit

Hi Nancy,

The Te Atatu electorate had the following issues with the gender remit and I can’t see that they will not persist:

–          We were uncomfortable with the idea that we would separate women and men into non-competition groups based on their gender, rather than our current system that encourages and allows women to compete with men.

–          We also did not feel that the separate gender ranking system is necessary and that our current system is sufficient based on the number of highly ranked females on our list that have given us more female than male representation in parliament.

–          We would prefer that our list is gender-balanced through the conscious decisions of our members, which will not happen if this system becomes automated.

Regards,

Jesse Chalmers

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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Nancy Higgins  wrote:

Begin forwarded message:

From: Nancy Higgins

Subject: Re: [GW] gender remit

Date: 25 March 2013 8:10:47 PM NZDT

To: Danna Glendining

But she still may win the coin toss and be number one on the list, but I get your point that you feel that she should be the ‘number one leader of the Party’ if that is the point.

Nancy

On 25/03/2013, at 2:32 PM, Danna Glendining wrote

I would vote against this remit.

I think quite a few people deliberately voted for Metiria to be No 1 on the List

& would be disappointed to have their wishes overturned by such a rule

 

Danna Glendining

[redacted address information]

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From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Monday, 25 March 2013 8:59 p.m.
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YG] Re: [GW] Fwd: gender remit

Hi Nancy,

I too am opposed to this. I agree with all of the above points. Though I can not speak for the Hamilton branch, we too had instructed our delegates to vote against this.

In terms of gender binary, I don’t think it is a good enough reason to say that the binary being in our society/already reflected in formal Green roles makes it okay to embed it even further into Green systems. You do raise a good point in that perhaps if we look at ourselves critically, we are not as far along the path as what we might hope- however that is certainly no reason to go backwards.

I hope collecting other peoples feedback goes well :)

Kind regards,

Sam


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