Lying Len’s Loose Lips



Nick Smith wastes no time in his new portfolio

Auckland has 2000 new sections ready to build houses on, says Mayor Len Brown, who last month claimed there was enough land for 15,000 homes.

As debate grows about housing and land supply in Auckland, Mr Brown is no longer claiming the city has enough new land to build 15,000 houses “right now”.

We have a bit of a surreal situation where a commie mayor is resisting National’s attempts to ease housing affordability in the Auckland region.

The revised figures follow a testy exchange last week between Mr Brown and new Housing Minister Dr Nick Smith over the best way to provide about 13,000 new homes a year in Auckland.

Dr Smith vowed to break the “stranglehold” of the council’s policy of containing urban sprawl – a policy he says is “killing the dreams of Aucklanders” by driving up house prices.

The minister wants to open up more land outside the existing metropolitan urban limit to peg back land prices which, he said, were the biggest factor putting home ownership out of reach of many.

Parroting everything your boss says can make you look silly

Councillor Dick Quax said Mr Brown had proclaimed to all who would listen that Auckland had 15,000 sections ready for houses to be built on “right now”.

“The mayor is now having a big helping of humble pie as he acknowledges that there are just 2000 sections ready for construction to begin.

“What this means is Auckland runs out of land to build on in May,” Mr Quax said.

The latest admission, he said, showed just how dire the land supply was and an acknowledgement the council had got it seriously wrong.

“We need to be told the truth. I don’t blame the mayor for this.

“I blame the officials for not doing a rigorous enough job of telling us what the supply of land is,” Mr Quax said.


Source: NZ Herald


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  • Saccharomyces

    Dick Quax, every time I see that name I have a little chuckle, he must’ve been give so much shit at school!

    • Bunswalla

      When I was about 12 the joke was “How do you turn into a duck?”

      Sit on a toilet until your dick quacks.

    • Mr_Blobby

      You want to be useful Dick. Start being part of the solution not the problem.

  • Muffin

    len browns a c*nt

    • Steve R

      I’m sorry to say your wrong.

    • Mr_Blobby

      In fairness the Auckland Councils have been fucking up the Parking, transport, housing, basically everything.Poking there snotty little noses into all sorts of things that they have no reason to be in.

      What makes Len a fucking cunt, is that he has done nothing to curb the excesses of his officials and it is business as usual for the bureaucrats.

  • maninblack

    Len Brown is such an embarrassment as a mayor.

  • Ururoa

    Not that I’m any great fan of Len, but freeing up land for subdivision around the Bombays or the back blocks of Orewa is not going to have the slightest impact on land/housing prices in the areas where people actually want to live (i.e. closer to employment centers) in Auckland. It will just make for cheaper houses in those areas, but if there aren’t jobs and facilities there, it will just mean more people spending more money and time to commute to distant jobs and services, more clogged roads etc.

    Making Auckland more spread out and more un-commutable (is that a word?) is not the solution here. This is just a typical knee jerk “See, we are doing something!!!” reaction from Nats. We are in this shit because of piss poor planning in the past (both local and national, that in part has nothing to do with land, but more to do with employment location, roading, public transport and services provision etc.); let’s take the time to come to a fully rounded solution for the long term.

    • johnbronkhorst

      What bull./…..You are making the assumption that Auckland is a big city. It isn’t!!! People will live where they can afford to live, especially kiwi’s as we have the attitude (rare in the world) that we will buy a “starter” home and move up the real estate snobbery chain several times in our lives. Before retiring, selling our last home to pay for the one we will live in until they carry us out feet first!!

      • Dave

        John. I agree with you, Living in Sydney or Melbourne you realize how small Auckland is in reality. All Auckland needs is a decent transport and roading system, and development of support industries in the outer suburbs and a lot of the problem goes. We lived near TorBay yet I worked near Onehunga, it was doable with a few off motorway trips and starting early. No such luck in Sydney, its an hour for half the distance when I lived in Auckland.

        • Hazards001

          Auckland…Sydney for beginners

    • johnbronkhorst

      As for commuting…we are actually quite lazy… other countries people are KNOWN to travel (in NZ context) from Hamilton to Auckland EVERY day!!

      • Indeed. When I was a student (in South Africa) I every day I travelled 100km each way. I was in a lift club of 5, we each took one turn a week driving down.

        I was the only student in the lift club, the other four were a Dept Head, 2 Lecturers and a Faculty officer.

        What made it easier was was that the highways in South Africa were way better (triple laned dual carriage way for most of the trip), and the speed limit is 120kmh (100kmh when within urban limits), not 100/70/50/100/50/100/70/….etc. that makes 100 km a lot shorter timewise there than it is here.

    • In Vino Veritas

      Ururoa – you mean commute like London, Sydney, Melbourne, Los Angeles, Berlin, Paris, Rome, Athens, Tokyo, New York and a hundred other cities. If people aren’t prepared to move into areas they can afford, and commute, then there is no housing problem, it’s people who aren’t prepared to bite the bullet, making their issue everyone elses issue. Oh thats right, there is no housing problem!

    • JeffDaRef

      so if your argument has merit – and thats a very big if – please outline how building slums on the rail corridor and spending a squillion on an inner city rail-loop is going to address the issues you’ve outlined?????
      viz albany, viz westgate, viz botany – if you develop housing in greenfield areas, commercial areas grow with the surrounding residential areas…

    • JimboBug

      I commute from the North Shore to Papakura every day – the roads really aren’t congested; it takes me less time to do this drive than it took me to get from the suburbs to central London on the tube when I worked there (and it is cheaper too).

      • Ururoa

        Couple of points:

        I lived for many years in Japan, and now live in Bangkok. For example, I have staff in Japan who commute 2hrs either way to work, while I myself had to do 1 hour via a bus, train and then subway ride each way, to cover a distance as the crow flies of about 15km.

        To me that is absolutely nuts. Cities should be designed so this massive waste of energy, money and time is minimized and people are incentivized to live close to where they work.

        I am not assuming most people work downtown. I am assuming most people want to be able to spend the minimum time and expense commuting to and from work.

        Why does any development along the rail corridor (or any other major transport corridor for that matter) have to be a “slum development”? I can show you some fantastic condo developments here in Bangkok positioned on prime public transport corridors; they demand a premium because they are located within walking distance of the sky train. No-one builds “slums’ on these prime spots.

        A point is the issue everyone is raising is cost of housing. The proposed solution is open more land for housing. Besides the obvious ridiculousness of extrapolating this to an Auckland of 3, 4 or 5 million and the Hauraki plains being covered by 3brm suburbia in picturesque cul de sacs, I say this does not bring down the cost of housing at all. It merely spreads the range of pricing further (so we get e.g. 3brm for 300k in Bombay and $1.3m in Grey Lynn ); i.e. it flattens out the bell curve with longer tails. While the average price may be less; the median price won’t move an inch.

        I would suggest the issue is NOT that housing is too expensive, but that
        A: median incomes are too low.
        B: the range of housing options (and thus cost) is too limited outside the CBD.
        C: migration (both from within NZ and from offshore) is allowed to be Auckland focussed

        The beauty of Auckland is that you can basically jump in your car, and in less than an hour can be out of the city! For those of you who really think building out is a solution, just visit the Pacific coast of Japan and take a drive for a few hours. Endless, mind-numbing, incredibly ugly 2 storey concrete grey suburbia sprawling out from centers like Nagoya, Osaka and Kobe, gobbling up all the most productive agricultural land. One day when Muriwai, Scandretts and Whatipu are just isolated strips of green and blue surrounded by such horrific blandness, we will realise what we have lost.

        Just building further out is not a solution, rather merely a postponement of the inevitable our grandchildren will have to face. We have to concentrate, that is the only option.

    • Mostly_Harmless

      But you’re assuming that most people work in central Auckland, which is simply not true.

      • Mr_V4

        Its actually quite possible to have radial transport networks. Look at the transport networks of many of the worlds cities they aren’t structured to funnel everything to the CBD.

  • johnbronkhorst

    So where does that leave labours 10 000 house per year for 10 years?

    • Mr_Blobby

      Fucked if the have any idea.

  • peterwn

    IMO Len will win the mayoralty in October. He will have the left vote, the NIMBY vote and will benefit from C&R’s disarray (because of conflicting NIMBY interests). This will be beneficial to National’s chances in 2014.

  • Graeme

    I’d like to see both options, allow high density in the city and open up greenfields. I work from home and don’t need to be right in the heart of the city but it would be nice to be within a short commute to the city when I need to.

    • Hazards001

      We’ll it’s clear where your interests lie..yourself

    • Gazzaw

      I’m with you Graeme. I have two multinationals as my main clients and technology now allows me to work from a home location. CBD appointments are scheduled for offpeak times wherever possible. I have several colleagues who have done the same and got out of their CBD offices and either relocated to the suburbs or to their home depending on the size of their businesses. We are all saving a fortune in overheads and sanity has been restored with the permanent abandonment of the daily commute.

  • Steve (North Shore)

    I saw Len Brown at Pasifika Festival. What a groveling cork soaker he is.
    Whe he and his bodyguards saw me with my WhaleOil teeshirt they quickly changed direction. What’s up Len? scared of a teeshirt?

  • Brian of Mt Wellington

    Brown is an absolute bullshitting fuckwit. But when you think about his political affilliation its not surprising. Local or central govt, they are all the same in his party, bullshit one week then tell the truth later on when its forced out.

  • Hazards001

    CBD’s existed when there was a need to be close to other business..mostly the port areas as goods came in and out, along with the financial districts which tended to congregate in the same areas for the same reasons…communication.(pre telephone it paid to be any easy walk for runners to pass messages along)

    Today with the internet getting better and the introduction of UFB we will see the needs of business to be congregated in cluster business districts greatly reduced. We saw it here in Auckland during the power crisis when people worked from home and things are way better now than then (internet wise).

    The company that I work for makes extensive use of conference/video calling and is even incentivising staff by offering them area work based on where they live in Auckland if their work happens to be Auckland based, our office is based in the CBD our work is local, national and international.Top local staff are the hardest to keep due to traveling on our crap roads in Auckland. And they do have to be on the roads…as do I!