UK media vs NZ media when reporting on Kim Dotcom

Our media is full of stories about the plucky fat German taking his case all the way to the Supreme Court.

The subtext is that this lovely underdog will keep battling the evil empire. So clearly his PR is still working a treat on our repeaters, it helps of course that one major daily has embedded journalists working with his lawyers.

But step outside New Zealand and the harsh reality for this convicted crook is plain for all to see.

Guardian covers the facts

Guardian covers the facts

US prosecutors have won a court case that brings them a step closer in their attempts to have the Megaupload founder and three of his colleagues extradited from New Zealand.

The appeals court in Wellington overturned an earlier ruling that would have allowed Kim Dotcom and the others broad access to evidence in the case against them at the time of their extradition hearing, which is scheduled for August. The four are accused of facilitating massive copyright fraud through the internetfilesharing site.

The court ruled that extensive disclosure would bog down the process and that a summary of the US case would suffice.

Dotcom, a German national, says he is innocent and cannot be held responsible for others using the site to illegally download songs and films. Along with him, US prosecutors are seeking the extraditions of Finn Batato, Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk, each of whom held senior positions at Megaupload before American authorities shut the site down in 2012.

Paul Davison, one of Dotcom’s lawyers, said he planned to appeal at New Zealand’s supreme court. Dotcom’s legal team must first submit an application to the court which will then decide whether an appeal has enough merit to proceed.

In its ruling the appeals court found that full disclosure of evidence was not necessary at the extradition hearing because the hearing was not the venue to determine guilt or innocence. The court pointed out that the legal obligation on the US was simply to prove it had a valid case.

The court also found that extradition treaties are essentially agreements between governments and “even though courts play a vital part in the process, extradition is very much a government to government process”

The sooner this fat german crook is put on a plane the better.


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  • The Feds are waiting until a plane big enough has been invented. That’s the hold up. Beliebes me manj.

  • Steve (North Shore)

    Dotcon will be contacting Tame Iti shortly. Hide in the Tuhoe Urerewas Dotcon

  • Mr_V4

    “The court also found that extradition treaties are essentially
    agreements between governments and “even though courts play a vital part
    in the process, extradition is very much a government to government

    A very worrying sentence if you have any concept of free democratic society based on the rule of law.

    • Really? Extradition treaties have been around for ages…we agreed to them..they are part of our law…and that is the rule of law…bye bye Kimmy

      • Mr_V4

        Lots of things have “been around for ages”, oppressive govts for one – doesn’t make them right. I don’t specifically remember having a chance to review let along vote on this govt-govt agreement. Do you?

        Any agreement where a NZ court doesn’t get a complete look at the evidence turns the NZ court into a rubber stamping administrative service, rather than having the ability to decide the merits of the extradition.

        The joke is if this was North Korea trying to extradite a citizen on some trumped up charge it would rightfully be laughed at.

  • Jonathan

    I have no problem with Dotcom facing justice but isn’t there a process to applying justice?

    And hasn’t that process had rules broken, corners cut etc?

    If he’s guilty then let him be tried fair and legally, although we are talking about corporate America and the American justice system here, you pay at the door for the verdict you want, but to do it by potentially dubious means makes them no better than him. EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty, its in constitutions and laws of both countries so to suggest and act other wise should be unlawful.

  • Phar Lap

    The Chinese deported the Garage Owner who it was alleged stole multi millions from Westpac.If Chinese can use common sense ,whats with NZs.

  • Chris

    If he has nothing to hide, then why doesnt he go and get it over with then get on with the rest of his life?

    • Jonathan P

      Because the Americans don’t have the best track record with service fair and honest justice when it comes to corporate America vs someone else.
      If I remember correctly its in the law (or constitution, can’t remember) that someone cannot be fined excessive amounts yet look at the piracy cases and what not over there with Jo Bloggs getting 6 figure fines but that doesn’t stop the entertainment industry and ultimately the American justice system from disregarding that and fining/charging them anyway.

    • Mr_V4

      And along comes another “nothing to hider”.

      Can we put a security camera in your living room, just to check you’re not beating your wife?

  • Anonymouse Coward

    Lets hope the G men from the US Justice Department prosecute the crooks on Wall Street with the same vigor.

    A Bronx cheer for US Attorney General Eric ‘place’ Holder.