Saturday General Debate

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  • Rodger T

    In the ol` days they would have Tarred and Feathered that Mofo before they strung him up,now all he gets is this lousy sign.

  • Gazzaw

    Where’s the burning cross?

    • Rodger T

      That comes out only after dark.

      • Gazzaw

        I wouldn’t mind betting that those law officers come out after dark in their white bedsheets. What a land of paradox.

  • Dave

    Perhaps a colour life size cutout so everyone knows just who he really is. Or the letters S (sexual) O ((offender) tattoed on each cheek in bright red ink! That ought to do it!

  • One of the oddities of NZ politics is the perception that support for the left is considerably higher than it actually ever has been.
    In the 13 elections in my lifetime 5 have been won by Labour and 8 by National (despite a decade long electoral drought for National which ended with the Orewa speech).

    The left would have you believe Helen Clark was a popular leader backed up with a strong political mandate – but was she?

    Taking the 10 elections in my lifetime (other than the 3 Helen won) on only 1 occasion did Labour receive a higher percentage than Helen.

    But let’s look at National – they received a higher percentage than Helen on 7 of those 10 elections (or 8 if you count Don Brash in 2005 getting a higher percentage than Helen in 1999) yet according to the left the Nats are so unpopular….except on election days!

    • RightOfGenghis

      You need to get out more son. You got any gratuitous sex and violence planned this weekend?

      • I am out all the time haha and yes I do

      • Dumrse

        Thats quite an intelligent response. Shame nobody will understand its relevance.

  • blokeintakapuna

    Not sure about the sign… That’s not going to help anyone released from prison to integrate back into society. People with these moral and personality flaws once demonstrated and proven beyond a doubt simply shouldn’t be released back into temptation/society.

    If we can’t legally stretch their necks… Export them to a lifetime of deserved paradise in a Siberian Gulag where escape would not be possible or would mean certain death by hyperthermia… Thereby eliminating all risk to society by these individuals.

    The laws we have created as a society to help us live “free” have actually done otherwise and have entrapped us all into laws where society needs to “mollycoddle” these sick/lame/corrupted individuals… But in nature, survival and health of the herd is dependant on the weak/ill/sick falling from the gene pool and helping the remaining survive as a result. Today, we wrap ourselves in sanctimonious cloaks of “advanced society” and civilisation forcing victims to partially support and assist these flawed individuals… Who would better serve humanity by simply not existing.

    We cull dogs that savage people without provocation, so why the hell do we force costs upon society to house, clothe, feed recidivist offenders when exporting prisoners to China would certainly help with trade ties to China. They need the cash income… We need a “free” society protected from such human scum.

    Or maybe the judiciary should be held accountable for those released on bail similar to how employers have responsibilities under OSH Laws. The Judiciary should be held accountable as if released prisoners on bail are like judiciary staffs responsibilities … And I’m sure NZ would see far less offenders released… And as a result, far less recidivist violent offenders in the streets committing more violent crimes.

  • Phar Lap

    Certainly find myself at a loss ,in a country where every two bit carpet bagger gets the publicity and the kudos.Take the German Dot Con alias Mr Schmidts,and the Australian guy named Russel Norman .The former a convicted felon,and the latter a dyed in the wool commie.Both foreigners,one who bought his way into NZ.The other an unelected green party politician.Surprise ,Surprise,they don’t like our security bureaus,which are there for the betterment of NZ.Being foreigners.Both of them are seeking inquiries into the bureaus.They seem to forget ,they asked us to come here,not the other way around.Surely if they don”t like our system,they can leave NZ.It is not compulsory to stay here.

  • NotForTurning

    Now can we do that for MUNZLers, NZEIers, PPTAers,, actually any sort of Bludger.

    Hey, banning bludgers from living in actual houses in good suburbs – moving ’em into garages in slums, or at least Len Brown’s UK-style tower-block estates (shades of MegaCItyOne) – would do wonders for house prices of those who deserve to buy a house.

  • James Gray

    Before we do that, can we get rid of minimum wages, so that such a person can actually find something to occupy themselves?

    • LabTested

      Germany is the only country in the EU without a minimum wage. Unemployment is 5.4% & falling compared with an EU average of 10.7% & rising

  • Pissedoffyouth

    Why are American cops so fat… all of them?

  • Pissedoffyouth

    Also, what the serious fuck?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10877273

    “Maori Party co-leader Tariana Turia this week called on Police Minister
    Anne Tolley to explain the difference between prosecution rates of Maori
    and Pakeha”

    I can explain it… Maori seem to be crooks?

    • That about sums it up pissedoffyouth haha – Turia is about the only NZer who doesn’t realise this

    • Mr_Blobby

      This is what happens when you start lower down the evolutionary ladder and compound it with an inbreeding program.

      It could be as simple as they just don’t give a shit and our Justice system is just an ineffectual joke.

      It could be our own fault for pandering to them and telling them how special they are.

      It could just be that they are so stupid that they actually think, they are smarter than the rest of us.

      • LabTested

        My understanding is that a criminal conviction is a requirement for membership of some Maori social clubs.

    • Could also be that they’re not very good at it (crime) and get caught more often

  • Gay marriage opponents want a referendum on the issue. Oh really?
    If there were a referendum and 50.7% voted NO to gay marriage the opponents would consider the issue settled democratically.
    However if there was a vote of, say, 55% in favour they would refuse to respect it – “voter turnout was not high enough” [irrelevant]; “the media was biased” [not true]; “45% of people have just been disenfranchised” [absurd] etc etc etc would be their battlecry.

    Totally dishonest people.

    Personally I am in favour of a referendum because there would be a comfortable majority in favour for a very simple reason – a referendum would attract a lot of international attention.
    There is a group of people, probably 7 or 8% of electors, who are personally opposed to gay marriage – in many cases very strongly – but are uncomfortable at being seen as homophobic.
    There are also very patriotic people who are concerned at damage to NZ’s reputation if the country were ‘seen’ to be homophobic and so would hold their nose and vote ‘Yes’ thereby putting the issue over the line in a vote.

    A similar thing occured in America last year where a group of around 2 million ‘conservative’ voters living in Ohio, Florida, Colorado, New Hampshire were uncomfortable at America being seen to reject a black President so voted for Obama giving him a surprising margin of victory in those 4 states.

    • Mr_Blobby

      Talking a load of old shit.

      Referendums are a complete waste of time. Apart from the ambiguity of the question, this is because you have to get approval for the question. 3 referendums with a massive majority all ignored. If it is not binding then it is a waste of time and money.

      • No referendum I can think of has been ignored – and you cannot name one. Remember you said “ignored”

        • Mr_Blobby

          You truly are a stupid Muppet.

          • Like Margaret Thatcher I know that when they start on personal abuse it means I have won the argument. I challenge anyone else reading this to name a referendum which was ‘ignored’ by the government of the day (if it had ever happened it would be easy to rattle them off)

    • I’m not sure spending $10m on a referendum for a Law change that affects a few hundred people a year is particularly sensible.

      • The issue is dead and there will not be one; was simply trying to show why, if a referendum had been held, it would have resulted in a vote in favour of gay marriage.

      • Dumrse

        Then why change the law for a ” few”?

  • Mr_Blobby

    Did anybody watch the attempted mugging of the Conservative party on the Nation this morning.

    I say good on them for telling the media how it will be. More of our Politicians need to grow some gonads and tell these Muppets how it is going to be, not the other way around.

    What a biased piece of reporting complete with a few imported black arse racists at the meeting. The Maori radicals must be very worried that middle NZ will wake up and say enough.

    Thinking seriously about joining them. National has lost its way, ACT is imploding, Labour is now a fringe minority party, the Greens have tidied there act up, but will always have baggage from the past and the race based parties are just that racist.

    • The Conservative party is the only one without any actual policies (intellectual hotbed!) – perhaps that is why they have not lost their way or imploded – because there is nothing to be against hahahaha
      It also appears to be a cult built around a deposit losing failed politician

  • williamabong

    An old station hand named Billy was overseeing his herd in a remote pasture in the outback of Australia, when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward him out of a cloud of dust.

    The driver,a young man in a Brioni® suit, Gucci® shoes, RayBan® sunglasses and YSL® tie,leaned out the window and asked the old man, “If I tell you exactly how
    many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?”

    Billy looks at the young man, who obviously is a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully
    grazing herd and calmly answers, “Sure, why not?”

    The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell® notebook computer, connects it to his
    Cingular RAZR V3® cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo.

    The yuppie then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop® and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany
    ….
    Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot® that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQL® database through an
    ODBC connected Excel® spread sheet with email on his Blackberry® and, after a few minutes, receives a response.

    Finally, he prints out a full-colour, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet® printer, turns to Billy and says, “You have exactly 1,586 cows and
    calves.”

    “That’s right. Well, you’ll be helpin yourself to one of me calves, then, since you won it fair en square.” says Billy.

    He watches the smartly dressed yuppie select one of the animals and looks on with amusement as the man gingerly picks it up & stuffs it into the boot of his car.

    As the yuppie is carefully brushing the dust & hair off his suit, Billy says, “Hey, if I can tell you exactly what work you do & where you come from, will you give me back my
    calf?”

    The yuppie thinks about it for a second, wondering what this wrinkled up dirt encrusted uneducated old man could possibly know? He grins and then says, “Okay, old fella, why not? I’m a believer in fair play.”

    “You’re a politician & you work in Canberra.” says the old timer.

    “Wow! That’s correct,” says the yuppie, “but, tell me how on earth did you guess
    that?”

    “No guessing required.” answered Billy “You showed up here even though nobody
    called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You used millions of dollars worth of equipment trying to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don’t know a thing about how working people make a living – or about cows, for that matter. This is a herd of sheep.

    Now give me back my dog.”

  • LesleyNZ

    Will Bride/Bridal shops have to change their name if the gay marriage/amendment goes through?

    • No, don’t be silly Lesley you re matter than that

  • Random66

    Just wondering if anyone who watched the movie, ‘ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo’ could answer a question I have. I watched it the other week on Sky and kept changing the channel during the parts that disturbed me (I’m soft I know), anyway at the end when she dressed up in the blond wig and transfered all that money – did she get it, or where did it go? Thanks.

    • Yes, into her very own account….it comes into play in the next two films.

    • Mr_Blobby

      Yes I just watched all 3 in Finish with English sub titles. The next two are rated R16.

      • Random66

        Thanks WO and Mr Blobby. I really hoped she did get it.

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