Saturday General Debate

Ok.   Look.  No talking about marriage equality.  I forbid it.

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  • maninblack

    russel norman is such a commie cunt.

    • Yes, the watermelon tag is starting to be quite obvious now

    • Any one who thinks that the Green taliban are going to save you $300 a year on your power is deluded.

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/117345047/Green-Party-Taxes

      • Pissedoffyouth

        Do they do anything other then tax shit????

        • Orange

          That list is just transport. They haven’t even got to the shit yet.

      • Orange

        What the…

      • Phar Lap

        Was thinking unless a power user got $300 dollars or whatever in their hand ,how could they in all fairness know they were in fact getting the bribe. Also a look at their take home paypacket, and check to see how much extra tax has been gouged off them, so they can receive the cash back bribe.

      • le spincter

        Max Bradford did it.

        Took away private property rights ( the old lines- retail power companies ) to bring us lower power prices !!

        Thanks to Comrade Max the enormously successful intervention bought us growth and jobs – or did he.

        • Patrick

          Just like Aunty Helen did to Telecom – forcing them to open their private property (Exchanges) so the competitors could install their own equipment – were you jumping up & down over those property rights being taken? Or is it ok when the commies do it?

        • And it worked, Helen Clark then raped and pillaged and increased power prices by mor than 70% in her time.

        • Mediaan

          Struggling to grasp this. The old government-run power companies, covering the entire industry, dated back to the Electricity Act of about 1925, as far as I can make out. Local Government plus some Central Government.

          Various legislative bits and pieces fiddled with it, but it was still in public ownership.

          It was run as a fascist state might do, riding rough-shod over local farmers if they got in the way for example. “Your land will be flooded every five years: tough luck. No redress.” “Pylons here and here, tough luck if that’s your property.”

          The lower Waikato farmers who get the river-flood damage most are still picked out and made to pay the large costs of what their regional authority calls “flood protection” work.

          But the original water in the river was added to greatly. This was when electricity work dug channels to join in the Wanganui river system, in the sxties, for hydro power. Suddenly the flow was much greater.

          Not only that, but the regional authority never admits that the flooding is controlled deliberately, from the upper Waikato dams and spillways. If you ring up and ask, they will probably tell you a lie. But it is right there in their documents, if you search.

          But, for most people, from the 1920s, the government-owned electricity service was an orderly, reasonably-priced power service.

          From about 1985 the Max Bradford changes, just a loose name for them, were underway.

  • Pissedoffyouth

    Anyone else got the flu? Can’t just be me, I feel so crummy….

    • cows4me

      Rum and green ginger.

      • Pissedoffyouth

        Well i tried the rum part last night, didn’t work as expected. I’ll try the ginger though

        • cows4me

          It will either fix you or if it doesn’t you won’t feel the pain.

        • blokeintakapuna

          Ginger, cloves, garlic in about a cup of water simmered for about 15 mins or so until darkish black. Sweeten with honey… And it will still taste foul, but its the best contraceptive around…. I mean flu cure there is. Drink as much and as often s possible.An old Algerian “grandmother” cure and although it tastes foul, give it a couple of days and you’ll be fine.

          Either that… Or Sweedish beach volleyball girls and continuous sponge baths… It won’t cure the flu… But you’ll feel much, much better!

        • johnbronkhorst

          3 bottles of Rum…….forget the ginger…you’ll be unconscious until you are feeling better (relative term, post hang over)

    • No I am fit and healthy – but then I dont smoke weed and drink Tui hahahaha!

      • Pissedoffyouth

        At last, an opportunity to post one of these:

        • What is it? I don’t understand it (sorry I don’t speak Westie)

          • DBs? As in beer? Just guessing.

    • Rodger T

      Double shot of the single malt of ur choice.

  • The last “Gladstonian Liberal” to sit in the UK House of Commons was a man called Roddy Bowen, MP for Cardiganshire between 1945 and 1966.

    Roderick Bowen did not believe the State should interfere in business or personal freedoms in any way whatsoever and made his views very clear; this at a time when the Liberal party had almost disappeared, and when socialism was the conventional wisdom in Britain.

    During his two decades in Parliament Bowen would make speeches saying things like – unprofitable coal mines should be closed down; price supports should be abolished; there should be no subsidies to industry etc etc.

    Bowen’s views were very much in a minority in those days and there would be shrieks of indignation from the middle class, country house, champange socialists on the one hand, and paternalistic tories on the other, about him wanting to grind the faces of the poor into the dust (you know the sort of thing).

    Interestingly whenever Bowen got up to speak in Parliament the chamber would fill up with 30 or 40 elderly Labour MPs – ex coal miner, ex factory worker, trade union types – people who had actually worked in occupations the champange socialists are such experts on, and they would sit there listening intently and nodding their heads in tacit approval.
    As usual those who have walked the walk – actually worked in a factory or coal mine – know how many pence in a pound and fully understand economic realities; if it cannot make a profit it should be closed down, the world has not ended and everyone simply goes and gets another job.

  • cows4me

    I don’t know about the rest of the country but there is a campaign on the radio around here to report to police anything to do with rural crime. Fucking drongos. I was talking to the local cop a few weeks ago and he asked how things were going. Wanted to know what was happening in the district, I just laughed. Starting to struggle aren’t you I asked. Now our local cop is a bloody nice bloke but himself and his out of town mates hounded the locals so much as far as drink driving went the local hotel had to shut down. Once upon a time you could go to pub, talk to your neighbours and know if any bullshit was going down in the district and the local cop would also drink there. Now the community is more isolated and police have no real idea of what’s going on. Yes, unintended consequences indeed.

    • Yes good point cows unintended consequence – shows what happens when the State sticks its nose into things. I think it is pathetic a member of the Constabulary has to ask what is going on in his district.

      • Gayguy

        That’s what you get with a Government who does not fund the Police well.

        That’s right folks, now that the marriage equality bill is through I am spreading into other threads……………

        • RightOfGenghis

          spreading into other threads…. like a good STD

          • Gayguy

            More like a good antibody fighting the disease.

        • Tim

          Point of view I guess.

          You could say he had nothing do, didn’t have any crimes to solve so was asking around.

          I struggle to see your logic this time though.

        • johnbronkhorst

          Enlarging the circle of your friends?… Gayguy?

          • Gayguy

            I would not say friends, people who are made angry about facts more likely.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Really??? I don’t see any facts in YOUR comment!!

          • Gayguy

            No surprise you have that difficulty.

        • Pissedoffyouth

          So if increasing funding fixes all problems, then why on earth are there still hungry children?

        • LabTested

          God damn, with the government not funding the Police well, crime must be well up. oh no – wait, its not!!!! Policing is working

    • maninblack

      my old man, who is a farmer said the exact same thing.

    • Fantastic insight.

    • Travis Poulson

      Same with my old local down south, pub died because cops hounded the locals, waiting down the road parked off the side outside the lime shed to catch us lot for having a few quiet beers and catching up with all the other farmers in the area. The pub was the hub of the community, but when the local cop left another was imported from…you guess it…Auckland. And when that cunt wasn’t on duty, townie cops from Invercargill covered. People just stopped going. They shouldn’t be surprised if country folk won’t go out of their way to help them.

      • cows4me

        It does get worst, I see the howls are going up the limit should be dropped to .05 if not zero. Many in the country are deeply pissed off and see this issue as a town against the country. The vast proportion of our law makers live in an urban environment and make laws that effect us in the country the greatest. People speak of equality, fucking bullshit. Rural people are becoming increasingly marginalised and pushed into a corner but the law making fucks in the city don’t mine taking our taxes. Rural people don’t enjoy the comforts or amenities of the big city but are expected, to quote a young town cop ( take a taxi ) . This country is turning into la la land and there will be a backlash.

    • Patrick

      Drink driving policing along with banning smoking in bars killed rural pubs – although the blokes drinking in a mates shed has taken off big time around my home town. Box of beer from the wholesalers & smoke all you want has an appeal. Pub owners in my town supply courtesy vans that will travel some distances to transport the punters to & from the pub, has been a big uptake amoungst the locals.

    • Bunswalla

      Yeah quite right, cows. Fucking nazis, sticking their noses into other people’s business. So what if you have a skinful and hop in the ute to head home, where’s the harm in that, right? I always drive better with a few under my belt, plus a ‘roadie’ – you’re probably the same I imagine.

      And if the missus says anything about it when you get home, just give the bitch a back-hander. That’ll settle her down and help her focus on what’s important, like getting your tea on the table even if it is 10 o’clock.

      I’m pretty sure you would’ve sorted out the All Blacks selection issues at the boozer too, that’s important, man’s work, and christ knows the selectors have had their heads up their arses for long enough. Salt of the earth mate, backbone of the economy. Everyone else is just a cunt.

      • cows4me

        If you say so.

      • Random66

        So do you ask the ‘missus’ to cook you some eggs with that Buns?

        Good to see you are using one of the words in the list today – Irony.

      • Pissedoffyouth

        I can’t stop laughing, and it hurts

      • Kacanga

        Brilliant!

    • rockape

      This came up in Southern Ireland years ago. The government bowed to the argument that the breathelized would affect the pub life in rural areas and that was part of local culture so didnt go ahead.

    • Kacanga

      It’s great for our rural road contractors though. Fewer road drains getting blocked by car wrecks

  • starboard
    • cows4me

      Yeah there are some seriously fucked up people in this country.

      • Like Queen Victoria I don’t think certain things even exist.
        It is bad enough this girl has a retarded Mother without her Mother forcing her into some imaginary nonsense just to be trendy or modern.
        The very idea of a relationship at 17 is a joke, completely absurd, and marriage and such notions condoned by her parent/s is nothing short of abuse.

    • The real problem is that Mojo has brought her daughter into the political arena now. Once you do that, she becomes fair game for scrutiny and criticism.

      Using your own children to score political points is a dangerous path to strike out on.

      • starboard

        Shes just lining her up to become another bludging list mp I bet..

        • Travis Poulson

          Looks like a perfect candidate as a Greenpeace terrorist. activist

      • johnbronkhorst

        That desperate for attention?

    • Gayguy

      Nice to see you crapping all over a mothers love. Feel good about ya self?

      • starboard

        fuck off faggot

        • Gayguy

          Oh my nasty, You really do not like the truth do you.

          Still not surprised. Someone who thinks it is ok to mock the love of a mother is usually vile and nasty.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            You’d be the first to complain if John Key’s mother wrote a nice article about him

          • Gayguy

            Not at all. I am sure his Mum is very proud of him and has all sorts of nice things to say about him. And I would never make fun of her for doing so.

            But then I am a much better person than you.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            That kind of arrogance is the reason people think you’re a cunt, GG.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            That kind of arrogance is the reason people think you’re a cunt, GG.

          • Mediaan

            In making a public statement like that, Mathers made bad mothering errors. That is the point.

        • Oi, I punted Redbaiter for less, fucking behave or you’ll be next

          • Steve (North Shore)

            See starboard, the trouble with your comment getting baulked is that the instigator runs free and he thinks he has won.
            Gayguy needs to stop trolling – cause someone else cops his shit

          • Gayguy

            I stated a fact, he was crapping all over a loving mother. He chose how to respond.

    • Mediaan

      I heard her give that speech and didn’t grasp what she was talking about. Thanks for clarifying.

  • unsol

    Awesome picture! I love irony & the use of exclamation marks haha!

    Things I hate: dishonesty, hypocrisy, lack of emotional growth, uncommitted complainers & opinions or actions devoid of logic.

    Things I love: the opposite of the above & reading clever & witty things while having my mid morning coffee on a rainy day :-)

    • starboard

      oh how nice

      • Gazzaw

        Thinking of starting up a coffee circle then SB?

      • Mediaan

        I fear there is another, real message about the coffee break joyousness. It is that these WO comments are posted during the civil service tea break, not during the day we are paying her wages for.

        • unsol

          Mediaan you need to change your name to mediocre

          Like a typical troll you fail to ascertain your facts thereby committing epic fails on your ASSumptions

          I am not a civil servant, was a nett taxpayer & am married to a nett taxpayer (10% of tax payers)

          So the ‘we’ means me and judging by your poor intellect it most certainly does not include you.

          To use the term favoured by many of the younger commentators on here, consider yourself pawned :-)

          • Mediaan

            You failed to mention your donations to charity.

  • Phar Lap

    Was watching CNN last night as police were tracking two suspected Boston Bombers.Saw quite explict pictures of one suspect lying on ground surrounded by a lot of police with their guns drawn.They told the man on the ground to get his clothes off ,which he did..They handcuffed him marched him to a police vehicle ,CNN pixallited his nether parts,as the announcer said he didnt want viewers to see He looked very healthy as he was going into the police vehicle.At least they could learn a lot about the terrorists.Imagine my surprise to hear a man had been admitted to a hospital with many gun shot wounds and blasts ,said to have happened in a shoot out.Although CNN has done saturation cover of the police search.They have yet to show a REPEAT picture of a naked suspected bomber being arrested.GO FIGURE.

    • Mr_Blobby

      Apparently the bomb was made from a pressure cooker. Wonder when the will start the campaign to ban pressure cookers.

    • Travis Poulson

      The naked man on the ground wasn’t him. The suspect got pumped with lead. He’s a gonner. The remaining suspect is currently cornered.

  • RightOfGenghis

    The first polls after the marxist attempt to shaft the economy will be interesting…

    • Gayguy

      Labour and Greens have the numbers to toss National going by the latest poll.

      What good news.

      • Travis Poulson

        because “the latest poll” always matters on election day doesn’t it.

        • Gayguy

          The thing is though, this has been clearly coming to anyone who understands how our electoral system works.

          You will see it become harder and harder for National to stay in power, and come next year, it will be very clear that National is dog tucker.

          • Travis Poulson

            So you’re quite keen for your precious Labour (who haven’t really gained any ground on the polls since the last election) to go into bed with the Greens? because that’s who will put them in power if it comes to that. Otherwise Labour wouldn’t have a shit show at winning. Alliance of the losers if you like.

          • LabTested

            I read it that NZfirst was the big winner in that Poll. Labour & Greens did not really move. What is with a swing from National to Winston?????

          • Travis Poulson
          • Travis Poulson

            Correct.

          • rockape

            All we need is a bus to run over Winston and National are home and dry:-)

          • Travis Poulson

            Hopefully he’s admitted to rehab for drinking before then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jx7v5OoHrM

          • Roy Morgan is on crack.

          • Gayguy

            They have been working with the Greens for over a decade now. Nothing will change with them continuing to work together. Simple scaremongering on your part. And I expect as the election gets closer and the polls continue with this trend, we will see more unfounded scaremongering.

          • Travis Poulson

            Newsflash, Greens have never been in government. Plenty will change (downhill). It IS amusing though about your silly “scaremongering” label.

            Scaremongering is not ok, but nothing wrong with a little bit of several hundred million dollars worth of economic sabotage at the hands of ordinary kiwis though eh.

          • Gayguy

            They have had plenty of influence over Labour… antismacking bill anyone?

            But you continue scaremongering.

          • Travis Poulson

            Plenty of influence? is that why they got the arse in Labours last term?

            And yes thank you for bringing up the anti smacking another good reason not to vote for them.

            It is bizzare you’d rather call “scaremongering” and bury your head in the sand than try to debate in favour of Greens/Labours policy on economic sabotage.

            I don’t think you know the difference between ‘confidence and supply’ and holding a ministerial position making direct decisions.

          • johnbronkhorst

            “They have been working with the Greens for over a decade.”

            Yes they have and look at the mess they made!!!!

            Saw goofy complaining about the purchase of helicopters!! On the news they said, several other botched defence purchases (implying National) when they then went on to show Skyhawks (labour), Ships that can’t go to sea (and killed the sailors on them)(labour again), LAV’s (labour again) all failures of one type or another. But these new helicopters have only just been bought and there are no signs of problems.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Progressively, over the next year, unemployment will come down to perhaps below 6%, our govt. budget will balance, hospital waiting lists will continue to shrink and waiting times reduce, crime will continue to fall, road toll too, moody’s will upgrade our debt status keeping interest rates low and inflation low, economic growth will trend toward 4%pa, real after tax wages will grow by about 3-5%. balance of payments will be in surplus, the countries endebtedness will fall …all on the positive side of the ledger.
            Labour/greens bribes will be exposed as the ridiculous scam that they are. Showing that even if they had the effect that they say, other parts of the economy will be detrimentally effected as to make the over all impact negative on the lives of NZers.
            It’s a long way to the election!!! All National have to do is point out the above as it comes to pass.

          • Gayguy

            Wow, are you drunk???

          • cows4me

            Yes we will vote for the coalition of retards, they promise to drop unemployment, hold your dick, by 5000. It will be a good crop.

        • rockape

          I have to say that National will have to do something in the next few months to turn the polls in their favour. I personally believe ( based on 45 years of observation ) that the electorate is basically sellfish. National have to have a few lollies up their sleeve to counter the Lollies of Labour/Greens. Once the voters start thinking, the next government wont be National then its too bloody late. We are close to that now.

  • Lion_ess

    Just had a knock at the door – a guy in a cardie with his wife and baby. Wanted to know if I was worried about the end of the world. NO – door closes. Fear mongering, low-life scum trying to give away their Watchtowers.

  • rockape

    Dear John Key,
    You have done a pretty good job of negotiating NZ through the reccesion. The country is on the up and the future looking better. However, there comes a time when the choice for you is simplified. Do you think a National Government woud be better than a Labour/Green/ Mana one. If so its time you make your priority winning the next election! Time to put it too the opposition and put out some policies ( bribes ) to ensure voters vote for you. Labour are feeding you lines, $300 million in the economy = 5000 jobs. OK lets slash 1 billion of tax and let the public know that will create 15, 0000 jobs. I dont care is its economical with the truth, Just set about winning FFS!

    • I agree. Labour and Green have been free to set the agenda.

      Perhaps they are allowed to do so for a while. We need to be closer to the election. In the mean time National are making the changes they don’t want to be making closer to the election.

      • rockape

        Sadly petal its about perception. 18 months ago the thought af a Labour /Green /Mana alliance was a joke, its not any longer. When people like me start thinking we would prefer Labour on its own to Labour Green then there is a problem. Once the evil alliance starts to look electable then all bets are off. National need to put the geenie back in the box and damn quickly.

      • rockape

        Also WTF are Nationals allies. There is a need for some serious action there as well. Banks needs to go and ACT need to broaden their appeal or vanish. Same for the conservatives, if their Egos get in the way of getting votes then they will bring about The LGM government. They need to get with the Game or get out of politics.

  • Travis Poulson

    Second bombing suspect in custody after being cornered in a boat in someones back yard. All over.

  • LabTested

    Saudi Arabia deports irresistible men deemed too handsome to women.

    ….religious police officers stormed the stand and evicted the men because “they are too handsome

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/10000341/Saudi-Arabia-deports-irresistible-men-deemed-too-handsome-to-women.html

  • I suggest Ketamine

    • johnbronkhorst

      She’s not going to cry, is she?
      Maybe she, like the rest of labour, is over estimating the popularity of this law? Making it the same overestimation of all their policies?

    • Gayguy

      Oh Jacinda, the haters will continue to hate and attack and spit bile. Just remember 2 things, 1: we are better than they could ever hope to be, and 2: we won,

      • rockape

        Gay Guy , you so need to get over yourself. For most of us Gay marriage is not that important. I have many gay friends, My wife works with male nurses . A great bunch, what makes them so good is they dont feel as insecure as you. They dont have to wear their sexuality on their sleeve. Realy,your just not that important.

  • Mediaan

    How about rape complaint equality? Are we allowed to do that on this thread?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9982142/Teenage-victim-of-woman-who-pretended-to-be-a-man-speaks-out.html

    Teenage victim of woman who pretended to be a man speaks out

    A teenage victim of a woman who tricked two girls into sexual encounters by pretending to be a man has expressed “outrage” after she escaped a prison sentence and was put on probation for three years…

    …The 26-year-old from Aberdeen, who has “gender identity disorder”, previously admitted two charges of obtaining sexual intimacy by fraud in a legal first in Scotland…

    …Jane Farquharson, prosecuting, said at an earlier hearing that Wilson had presented herself as a boy since childhood.
    She added that her second victim thought she was having sexual intercourse for the first time and both “declared their love for each other”.
    When she took advantage of her first victim she was a 21-year-old woman pretending to be a 17-year-old male.
    Shelagh McCall, defending, said her client had gender identity issues and insisted on referring to her during yesterday’s hearing as “he”. She also said that Wilson wanted to undergo gender re-assignment.
    Nathan Gale, of the Scottish Transgender Alliance, claimed prosecuting someone for gender fraud threatened rights to privacy.

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