Sunday General Debate

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Welcome to Sunday’s General Debate, the post where you decide what you want to talk about.

However, just for some fun, feel free to share whatever is currently at the top of your bucket list.

Create a comment that completes this sentence:  Before I die, I want to ….

 


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  • …ride my mountain bike on all the DOC tracks in NZ

    • emjayblue

      can’t respond to your comment on the other thread, so am belatedly responding here.

      Well, actually you’re not advocating for sharing – you’re advocating for tramping tracks to be turned in to bike tracks that pedestrians use at their own risk. (I refer you to your own comment “Who says that cyclists should give way to walkers, why not the other way around?”)

      One can’t really argue that a “displaced walker”, as you put it, is replaced by a cyclist. Walking takes a lot longer than cycling. If you can’t cycle the whole Routeburn in a day. there’s something wrong with you or your bike. There’s no advantage to putting more people through a track per day if none of those people use huts. Further, cycling damages dirt tracks in a way that walking does not.

      As for your preference for the 50yo Yank over a 21yo Brit – that says a lot about your demographic. I personally find the middle aged Yanks pretty irritating and would rather replace them with a nice charming young Irishman, thank you. The rich old white guys might spend a bit more at the local Hilton, and probably also at the flash restaurants, but the question of whether that is really helping the local economy is a bit of a moot point. At least backpackers are staying at locally-owned businesses where the profits aren’t going offshore.

      Finally, once again, the cost of the equipment has no relevance at all. Are you suggesting that formula one drivers be allowed to use DOC tracks as well? Their equipment’s a fuckload more expensive than your bike, and they would spend a hell of a lot more while they’re in the country too.

  • maninblack

    crush some pinkos.

  • blokeintakapuna

    … Have the luxury to peacefully, happily, enjoy and watch the passing of seasons for an entire year…

  • Muffin

    Unrelated to the above picture. I was just reading the herald, fist mistake I know, and saw the articles on the loony power purchase scheme that the greenlabour party are advocating. Commentators actually seem to be actually saying it would be good!?

    Are they absolutely retarded or is it just so their writing appeals to the ignorant left?

    • Phar Lap

      They are the left.Wonder if the bribes come to pass and businesses flee NZ who will buy their lying newspaper.Better still who cares.,there wont be a paper.

      • rockape

        The bribes come in the form of the leaks and the inside story(lies) from Labour and the Greens.

    • cows4me

      Probably absolutely retarded Muffin. But their mindless rants will probably fail to find the ears that their dribble will most impress, they’re still sleeping off last night’s hangovers.

    • rockape

      You have got to remember the press is the press. Individual commentators would like nothing better than to make a name for themselves. Bringing down the Government would be a feather in their cap. They see themselves not a writers of the truth, but as a second, unelected, opposition.

    • LabTested

      Just watch Q&A with David Parker & Stephen Joyce. After listen quietly to Parker for a few minutes Corin Dann then proceeds to ask Joyce a question & repeatedly shout him down before could even finish a sentence. Unbelievable. By all means challenge Joyce on his answers, But at least let him answer a few

      • Phar Lap

        Amazing Corin Dann name and face looks like village idiot.He cant even read a news cue,yet he is in a position the shape the future of NZ.

        • LinkinHawk

          Corin Dann is an utter moron ,and you can just see the glee in his face at the coming poll results tonight on one news , it is going to be very sobering news for us national voters , National losing votes big time to Greens and minor coalition partner Labour,

          The election is a far way off but the trend must be very concerning for Key

          • I don;t think 45% is so bad a result for National. And on TV3 49% isn;t so bad either

          • LinkinHawk

            Are these numbers your guess or you know for a fact in advance of realese?, those numbers are much better than I was lead to believe

          • PlanetOrphan

            U been reading theScablander M8?

  • Rodger T

    Before I die I want to…. stay alive?

  • Phar Lap

    Before i die,i want the NZ voter to educate themselves to the fact, how cancerous and corrosive the Stalinist “Green” Party is.Hoping the NZ voter will wake up to the fact the “green” party is an illusion,hiding under the mask of conservation, as an excuse for social engineering.They have hijacked the word “green” only because they are scared of what they are .the sick colour of “RED” COMMUNISTS..

  • unitedtribes

    I havent seen much comment from Key, Peters. or the Moaris on the power issue. Whats up? Could it be that Key might take it to the Country

    • LabTested

      Peters was on the Nation this morning. Promising to buy back MRP using the Cullen Fund and Kiwisaver. Challenged on how he could use Kiwisaver he said the government could access the money in the short term. So he plans to nationalise your retirement savings to nationalise MRP. .

      • This nation is truly ****ed

        • Travis Poulson

          *fucked

          better replace your keyboard :)

          • Random66

            I see you survived the concert last night Trav. Were you down on the floor or up in the seating?? I lost count after the first dozen of Motorhead t-shirts I saw – lol.

          • Travis Poulson

            Down on the floor. Damn what a good night.

          • Random66

            Sure was. As I said yesterday we were up by the stage in the lower seating and to look out over the floor was really something to see. Incredible atmosphere and it was a great way for them to kick off their tour.

          • Travis Poulson

            left or right of the stage? if left then I wasn’t too far away.

          • Random66

            Looking at the stage from the floor, we were to the left.

      • unitedtribes

        Guess that rubbishes my thoughts that he might be mellowing a bit

        • Liberty

          Mellowing. That is what MPs should do. Leave before they collect their gold plated pension.
          The old warhouse hasn’t faced reality and is now losing it. His in-house antics are nothing
          more that incoherent babble. That is on a good day.Then he is the daring of the
          media. Key forgets about a phone call he made 3 years ago and the media go septic.
          Peters refuses to pay back $158,000 and the spineless media are silent.

      • unsol

        Yes I saw him say that too, but on the news last night.

        Surprise surprise that some wanker MP brings up what we all fear with that scheme. It has happened before so no doubt they could make it happen it again.

        Hence why only I signed up – hubby can fire me which means I have ‘no’ money so I would be able to tell them get fucked re contributions.

        There is no way we would ever trust hubby’s money being in such a scheme or sign the working life of our child away – seems so wrong that if you sign your child up at 18 they are then compelled to carry on with it despite not actually getting a say in the first place. Unless I have misunderstood this?

        But either way, Peters’ comment is good cause for caution

        Just hope the muppets of NZ sit up & stake notice as the crap the left are starting to spit out is a HUGE worry. If they get in they will make Uncle Hulun out to be someone who actually did some good for this country.

  • Take a cycle tour from Scandinavia to Russia

    • That could be very short depending on where you start and where you end :)

      • rockape

        Very cold to!

    • unsol

      Ooh that would be very cool!

  • Rodger T

    Paper,scissors ,rock, how long would this game last in a NZ schoolyard ?

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f04_1366480795

    • rockape

      Totally briliant!

  • Liberty

    Bernard Hickery has nailed his colours to the socialist ship.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10878726

    • Pissedoffyouth

      I had a laugh at that commenter who said the Herald was a National party newspaper

    • rockape

      Isnt he the financial Guru that said house prices would fall by 20%, with that sort of financial nouse he has to be a socialist!

    • LabTested

      To Quote Bernard.” Did it think it could get away with generating super profits from a network monopoly forever without a political reaction?”

      The amount of ‘Super Profit’ is $4B, which as someone on Q&A today said is $1000 per person per year. This is $20 per person per week.

      So the electricity companies are making a profit of $20 per person per week & this is somehow seen as obscene.

      NZ banks made a profit of $14.90 per person per week and banks do not have the infrastructure issues connected with generating power.

      The Green/Labour power saving of $230 per household per year (new figure announced by David Parker today) is $4.42 per household per week, so lets say $1.50 per person per week.

      So a profit of $20 per person per week is obscene, but $18.50 per person per week is socialist utopia

    • He did that a long time ago

  • Hard to believe now but prior to World War 2 (notwithstanding the movie industry) Los Angeles was considered the US equivalent of Gisborne.
    Travel to LA was difficult and time consuming – by road, along Route 66, was not all it was cracked up to be (with the odd 20 mile detour), it took considerable time and much of it was not sealed.
    Rail, it may surprise you to learn, was not direct – you had to take a train to San Francisco and then a connecting train down to LA (adding a day or two to travel time).
    There was no direct airlink to LA until WW2 – flights (such as they were in those days) also were a case of feeder planes to and from San Francisco.
    You may also like to consider that so irrelevant was LA that not a single Hollywood movie, prior to Bogart as Sam Spade, was actually set in Los Angeles whereas many were set up the coast in San Francisco or other parts of California.
    So yes Los Angeles is very much a product of post WW2 America, so much so it is difficult to visualise it being anything else; the hick town of the early 20th century is no longer even a memory.

  • Pete George

    Promoters of the NZ Power single purchaser model claim that Pharmac
    is proof that this model can work. They ignore significant differences.

    In his Herald column Matt McCarten joins the ignorance. National MP Michael Woodhouse (who has a background in hospital management) points out some flaws:

    Matt McCarten’s comparison of the Labour/ Green electricity policy with the Pharmac model is flawed in so many ways, three of which are:

    1. Pharmac is the end purchaser, not the consumer;
    2. Pharmac doesn’t force an average wholesale price on the market,
    it tries to get the best deal on drugs but its purchasing power is still
    limited;
    3.There isn’t a large distribution cost as with electricity which is the big driver of electricity cost inflation.

    McCarten’s claims highlight the lack of thought that has gone into supporting the proposed power price reforms.

    Pharmac also doesn’t control a whole market, drug companies can still bypass Pharmac and sell unsubsidised drugs to consumers.

    • James Gray

      And of course if pharmac doesn’t buy the drug you need, even though you’re compelled to pay for pharmac they will happily leave you to die…

      • Pete George

        That’s a stink diss of what Pharmac do.

        Do you think Pharmac should have an open chequebook and buy any drug anyone thinks they need?

        • James Gray

          No, but why should we have to open our cheque books for any drugs that pharmac thinks we need?

          • Gazzaw

            It’s called tough shit James. Unfortunately the taxpayers (not the fucken government) have only so much dosh to share around.

      • Pissedoffyouth

        If I had the choice of saving one person or a hundred I’d save the hundred.

        • Hazards001

          Come back to me on that when the one is mommy

          • Pissedoffyouth

            Well if my mother had something that was so rare that pharmac didn’t fund the recovery, I’d take out a loan to get the drugs…

  • unsol

    Common on people, quit with the yawn fest & get creative – tree crusher is on the right track (pun intended!).

    Before I die I want to: ride my mountain bike on all DOC tracks in NZ, tramp the Dusky Sounds again, run the Kepler, run the Goat, run the Rotorua, Boston & New York Marathons (the latter would also include the Sex and the City tour of course) in under 4 hours, do the Vietnam cycle tour, do an African safari, tramp to Base Camp (Everest) & last but not least ensure my child is a nett taxpayer who knows how to work & save for what they want who is not part of the throw away generation or obsessed with consumerism….unlike most people in NZ.

    • I didn’t realise we had so many fit people among us.

      Before I die i want to walk Te Araroa in one go.

      • unsol

        Hmmm,,,,,didn’t say I could actually do all that now! I used to but keeping it up with kids (and daily fix of WO blog haha) is hard work! :-) Marathon running is the hardest & definitely a pipe dream for me at the moment – 3-4 hours are a huge luxury few mothers have, especially when they are wives of hubbys that work 60 or so hour weeks! :)

        I would like to walk that too. I also want to go tramping in the Ureweras. And I would love to see the NZ cycle way fully connected so I can bike the length of entire country off road…my list is almost endless!

        Things like bungy jumping arent on my list (done skydiving, but cant say I’d do it again…getting soft in my old age)….but white water kayaking France is though! Now THAT would be a good story to write home about!

        • Oh, and Travis wants to see a pic of what he’s missing out on, but he’s not got the guts to ask.

          • unsol

            You mean my boobs? Hubby’s dessert only with the exceptions being flashing the russian mutant & my celeb free pass :-)

          • Travis Poulson

            Don’t get your hopes up, he’s talking shit.

          • Bunswalla

            You’d look. You know you’d look.

          • Travis Poulson

            And Labour is polling 50%

          • unsol

            Don’t joke, that could happen….the media are gunning for the Nats & with everyone having tantrums on here about how they can no longer vote for the Nats perhaps it is a possibility.

            But you missed the point: I said the exceptions were the russian mutant & my celeb free pass (Ricky Martin – so in other words, aint ever going to happen for any female!). You ain’t either. But don’t worry, I’m sure when you’re all grown up you might meet a nice lady that allows you to enjoy such desserts. :-)

          • Travis Poulson

            All that effort into trying to talk down to me gone to waste, such a shame. happily married thanks. Explaining to me that I missed the point suggest s you missed the point by trying to complicate something uncomplicated as someone pointed out the other day. No need to be offended that I dont want to see your boobs, as you say, just a fact of life:)

  • rockape

    And now for something completely different! Cam have you thought of a pre-election issue of Truth. To be given away free 1 month before the election. Think of the wonders it would do for your future readership. Cut out the smut and advertising, print a million copies for free distribution. It would cost a lot but i for one would be prepared to chuck in a bit of cash. Cost it, tell us what the bill would be and lets see who can help financially.
    My father won election after election for the conservatives against the trend with a little pamphlet called 10 questions Socialists cant answer!

    • Who was your Father? but yes you are right about Truth – I enjoy buying and reading it each Thursday, but wish there were no tarts (decent, respectable people don’t want that in their paper)

      • rockape

        A Scottish political organiser,my step mother ran the womens side of the Conservative party in Scotland. She was the more influntial,you can google Jenny Mc bride OBE

  • PlanetOrphan

    Top of my bucket list …
    To stomp the head of the maggot that blue screened my machine last Tuesday,
    Until little bone fragments of their skull are imbedded in the souls of my shoes. :-)

    • blokeintakapuna

      That’s not a way to express some love there PO. Bet you’re pleased you had everything backed up though! Someone give this person a Tui.

      • PlanetOrphan

        Didn’t do any damage, but their puny little Laptop suffered afterward :-))

        • Pissedoffyouth

          Ever heard of a firewall?

          • PlanetOrphan

            Yup, it was running, but windows enables ports for services running…
            I leave them running for a reason…
            Google stack smash if you’re really interested.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            I don’t get how setting your MAC address on a PC/Phone to something different will stop WAN based DOS attacks? If you had an ARP poisoned LAN then yes, that would make sense but who would have an inside hacker? Unless you’re a corporate or on a public wifi

          • PlanetOrphan

            DOS attacks are MAC based , and they hit your router but if they can sniff WAN traffic, then they can attack your pc through NAT. and a zero address works because the network routers automatically port route IP from broadband so the mac address is irrelevant, anything other than zero will be mapped to the 00: mac address port route, it’s a good way of hiding your machine.
            like I said they walk straight through my router, so it’s advanced.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            A properly configured router should never let incoming WAN traffic initialise the connection anyway unless it is to dedicated ports to dedicated machines.

            For instance, at home I block all incoming traffic apart from port 3389 for RDP, which is port forwarded to my server.

            I can see how with NAT setting your MAC address to all 0’s could be of benefit, but only if your router lets incoming traffic start the connection which it shouldn’t

          • PlanetOrphan

            Agreed, and I have no ports open, which is why I say they walked straight through it. I’ve noticed my connection was slow, so I changed the MAC on gut instinct, hey presto back up to speed, 2 days and it was slow again, they can’t seem to get me on a 00: address, which is why I mentioned it.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            Perhaps you visited a honeypot which recorded your IP and NAT port, and because you still had that connection open with that NAT port somehow (Torrents?), it was flooding you.

            Restarting the router should clear the port which was open and fixed that problem.

            MAC spoofing is so easy that it always gives me a laugh when I see open wifi routers with MAC filtering turned on, as if its more secure. Same with hiding the SSID, I just itch to get onto the network just to prove a point

          • PlanetOrphan

            Exactly, and I don’t use much other than local http.
            But still “they wanna get me they can” etc

          • Patrick

            No way I would be allowing any port forwarding on 3389 to a server – much more secure way to do this is via a vpn.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            I’ve been meaning to get VPN working, thanks for the kick

  • johnbronkhorst

    I posted this optimistic prediction yesterday…I’ll keep it and see how close I get.

    Progressively, over the next year, unemployment will come down to perhaps below 6%, our govt. budget will balance, hospital waiting lists will continue to shrink and waiting times reduce, crime will continue to fall, road toll too, moody’s will upgrade our debt status keeping interest rates low and inflation low, economic growth will trend toward 4%pa, real after tax wages will grow by about 3-5%. balance of payments will be in surplus, the countries endebtedness will fall …all on the positive side of the ledger.
    Labour/greens bribes will be exposed as the ridiculous scam that they are. Showing that even if they had the effect that they say, other parts of the economy will be detrimentally effected as to make the over all impact negative on the lives of NZers.
    It’s a long way to the election!!! All National have to do is point out the above as it comes to pass.

  • My bucket list, not complete:

    Complete the Super Slam Super 25 – http://www.superslam.org/super-slam/super-twenty-five

    Got to Cordoba at least 5 times for Dove Hunting http://www.cordobadovehunting.com/

    http://youtu.be/Do609s2sQ4U

    http://youtu.be/FnKP309RorU

    A 7 day horseback Mountain Lion hunt.

    Visit/Hunt Alaska

    Drive right around Australia again http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/tag/whaleoil-road-trip/

    • blokeintakapuna

      I implore you and everyone else to put http://www.burningman.com on their bucket list. The best week you could ever have with an experience like no other anywhere else.

  • Colin Cloudesley

    Before I die, I want to see Normal Norman and Nosy Shearer die at the stake for treason.

  • LabTested

    Before I die I want to….. Find that damn G spot

    • Travis Poulson

      I’d make that the last thing on your list.

  • cows4me

    I see Glen Beck has threaten to release documents and testimonies of Congress people concerning a Saudi national involved in the Boston bombings. This suspect is to be deported on Tuesday, claiming diplomatic immunity but the scandal goes to the very top of the food chain. Beck has given the top echelons of the US government till Monday to come clean. He further claims that this will either make or break the USof A and rates the scandal as one of the biggest stories of the last fifty years. We shall see.

    • Pissedoffyouth

      Wait, so the bombing was staged?

      • cows4me

        Not sure POY . A Saudi national was injured and hospitalised in relation to the Boston bombs. He is connected to one of the wealthiest men in the world and this man backed Obummer. The white house is now saying the man is being held on different matters but will be deported Tuesday. Very high personal are claiming the Obummer administration is lying and the shit is about to hit the fan.

        • Bunswalla

          I have it on reliable information that it’s part of the HAARP conspiracy which has also caused two major earthquakes in the last week. The Boston bombing was simply a diversion to allow enough people with tinfoli hats to disperse throughout the country to divert the HAARP rays to their intended target.

          I could tell you what this target is, but you wouldn’t believe me and even now my life is under threat for leaking this snippet.

  • Hazards001

    “Create a comment that completes this sentence: Before I die, I want to ….”
    OKaaaaay…….I want to kick the living shit out of one more fucking green Aussie wanker

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