Tiny, tacky boxes coming to a neighbourhood near you

NBR and TVNZ have reported about the tiny, tacky, apartment complex soon to be rising 15 stories about New Lynn.

A Hong Kong-style apartment tower destined for New Lynn, west Auckland, has received the go-ahead.

Auckland Council has granted resource consent for a 10-storey residential tower above the new Merchant Quarter building in New Lynn.

Construction is expected to begin this month. 

The office of mayor Len Brown issued a media statement today claiming that “Aucklanders are embracing options being offered in quality, compact and affordable housing”.

Prices start at $250,000 for the 110 one- and two-bedrooms apartments on offer.

Mr Brown says more than half the apartments have already been sold off the plans.

Watch the TVNZ video and look at looney Len grinning like the cat who licked the cream, practically jizzing in his pants that people want what he calls “affordable housing”.

 


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  • peterwn

    Do they come with poles for sticking the washing outside windows?

  • cows4me

    I heard some clown on the radio describe this ten story housing block as skyscraper, looks more like high rise dog kennels.

  • johnbronkhorst

    and in 5-10 years they will be high rise slums, as they found in the USA (the projects) or the “high density housing” in London.

  • Timboh

    I am waiting for ratesarerevolting…… Len Brown is a ….

  • Dare I ask how large these apartments will be?

    • seems to me

      2 bedroom 73 m2 Floor

      1 bedroom 54 m2 Floor

      • As Auckland apartments go that is not too bad; 54m2 for a 1 bedroom is actually slightly larger than in the CBD.

    • LabTested

      One bed from 47 m2 Prices from $246K. So priced at $5200 m2 (Car park included)

      The problem with Auckland apartments (in my experience) is that there is no storage and they are designed for sleeping as opposed to living. – Plus I have yet to see a well built one from the inside.

      http://www.merchantquarter.co.nz/

      I have an apartment in europe and apartment living can be OK, if done right. However I do not think NZ architects really & truly understand the concept

  • In Vino Veritas

    Here we go folks, boxes of ticky tacky, enjoy:

    • LesleyNZ

      Love this song – when I was a little girl we sang this song when I was in the Primers – a long time ago.

    • johnbronkhorst

      I remember when they played this on the TV, they showed film across Porirua. This would now be luxury housing compared to this high rise.

      • LesleyNZ

        And those houses were built properly. They are like gold these days.

    • LesleyNZ

      Listened to it. Fancy us singing a protest song like this in class in the Primers back in the 60’s! I can still see my lovely teacher playing the ukulele and imagining all the lovely coloured houses sitting there on the hillsides…………… The ticky tacky back then was real good ticky tacky – houses then had good bones and didn’t fall apart. Oh to be back in the ticky tacky days. When you look back now – life was so simple and uncomplicated. Reckon there needs to be an updated version of this song done. We have real live ticky tacky in New Lynn.

  • sheppy

    Went past the ones overlooking Newmarket train station yesterday – reminds me of the many blocks of slum flats they demolished in the UK

    • Andy C

      The ones in newmarket seem fine to me. Safe and clean, never seen an issue there.

      • sheppy

        give it time

  • Justsayn

    Where do you propose these people live? Do you expect them to move away from Auckland to places where they cannot get any work?

    Provided there is some control of minimum standards what is wrong with the market finding the solution?

    • LesleyNZ

      The design is ugly. Why should people live in an ugly looking building?

      • Justsayn

        If people don’t want to live in them the market would not build them.

        Free market guys. You know how it works when you like the outcome, it also works when you don’t like the outcome.

        • johnbronkhorst

          BULL SHIT without council permission you can’t build anything else,..This is lennies wet dream!! This was given council permission, pretty smartly! So the market isn’t driving it, lennie is! It is almost a take it or leave it proposal!!!

          • Justsayn

            Agree the Council are encouraging it, and that is wrong. The regulation should ensure minimum standards are met and that off site effects a okay.

            But even if the regulation not as silly as we have you would get these things built.

            You seem to want regulation of the markets to say you must build this or that, provided it is what you personally think is best. Well that is not how the market works.

          • johnbronkhorst

            NO….This is a take it or leave it proposal by lennie!! The MARKET has not been given a worthwhile choice!!!

          • Justsayn

            The market did not have to build the building, of course it had a choice.

            I’m not wanting to defend silly Len, but even without his silliness you’d still get these high rise apartments unless you strongly regulate against them. If you’re willing to strongly regulate against them then you are just a Len with a different point of view.

          • Andy C

            Except it has. Nothing stopped the market from building alternatives ovef the last decade. Jeez, you guys blame Len for everything dont you…

          • Justsayn

            To be fair the MUL has inhibited substantial development on the rural edge (but that was the ARC’s idea not Len’s) and Len seems to like that even if he wants to give it a new name. It has restricted the development of alternatives and created strange distortions in property values.

            But even if we get rid of that idea, the market will still build some of these rise rise appointment’s (small and large)… some people want them !

            I have a feeling these guys are just NIMBYs (not in may back yarders). Build them but just not where I have to see them and the poor people who live in them…

          • johnbronkhorst

            YES it did….it is called the city limit.

          • Hazards001

            “Nothing stopped the market from building alternatives ovef the last decade.”

            You seem to have no grasp then. The district plan and the Councils rabid enforcement of the RMA has stopped development that John is talking about. Not the market. Land is artificially inflated as a result of Council Laws.

          • johnbronkhorst

            The market dictates it’s own level of cost, quality and fairness!!! Allow the expansion and see all kinds of living types emerge, apartments, and all types of houses. BUT people will decide, not politicians either national or regional!!!!

          • Justsayn

            Any you still get inexpensive little apartments in the city because some people want them and they turn a good profit.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Yes you do but given a true choice, the ones that want to live in these inner city apartments and then they DON’T become high rise slums. Lennie is trying to curtail choice by building these high rises and not allowing expansion of Auckland therefore it is a “take or leave it” proposition. Which creates the slums.

          • Get a grip

            Ahhh thort so-you are a socialist then….Getting the Council to restrict what YOU dont like :-)

          • johnbronkhorst

            I am nearly the furthest thing from a socialist!!!
            I want the councils EVERYWHERE to get out of my life and allow expansion of our cities to where the people want to go .lennie is restricting Auckland to the current boundaries and opposing any other housing solutions.

          • Hazards001

            Are you retarded?

    • johnbronkhorst

      But the market isn’t finding the solution….this is socialist lennie’s wet dream! Open up the land and allow people to buy and build what they want!!

      • Justsayn

        Agree with removing the MUL, but that will not stop demand for high rise inner city – not all can afford a $500,000 home and 2.5hrs travel per working day.

        People want to live in this shit.

        • johnbronkhorst

          Given lennie…they have NO CHOICE!!!

          • Justsayn

            I’ll say it again, agree the metropolitan urban limits should be removed – free up the choice – but that will not lead to the outcome you seem to want.

          • johnbronkhorst

            YES it will!! Because it has happened EVERYWHERE in the world, when given the choice, people will live in an area, bring up their kids, thatbest satisfies them! They WILL by and large travel to work to achieve it. Because the largest proportion of people Work to live…They DON’T live to work!!!

          • Justsayn

            Do you propose to free up the MUL and to ban high rise apartments?

          • Justsayn

            The largest proportion of people in the world struggle to get enough to eat. They “work to live”, literally. You need to look around you John. Not all can afford to sit astride such a tall horse.

      • Get a grip

        Sure is a market solution!! The people (developers) decided thats what they wanted to do! Punters(the market) want to buy them…
        So they bought and will build what they want. Why are you so myoptic about where and how people should live…Maybe you dont believe in freedom of choice? Just another secret socialist wanting to ignore the market and impose controls on peoples choice.

        • johnbronkhorst

          This is NOT freedom of choice!!! Freedom of choice would be to extend the boundaries of Auckland allow full and open development on the outskirts and let the people choose. But lennie is doing his best to curtain the expansion of Auckland and almost fast tracking his high density house planning via this kind of apartment living!!!

  • LesleyNZ

    Just plain ugly. And yellow? The architect must have had a bad dream. Imagine looking at that yellow all the time. How could AKLD Council agree to this architecture? Would not this built near me.

  • hamishnevet

    It doesn’t make any sense. 500m up the road from where this is being built is the Crown Lynn apartment block. It’s probably near 20 years old now. 6 or 7 stories high. Houses a few hundred people. And is described by Police Officers as the Bronx of West Auckland.
    Give it a few years, a desperate landlord will lease to the wrong people and the whole place will turn to shit. Good one Len.

    • Tom

      Exactly. One apartment rented to some ferals, people will leave because they don’t like living next to said ferals, owner won’t be able to rent apartment at the price he wants, more ferals move in…… TADAAAHHHHH – INSTANT GHETTO!

    • WayneO

      What’s the problem? Ferals will live somewhere so why not stack them all together and let them sort their own problems out. I’m quite happy to have ghettos, it keeps them out of my neighbourhood and if my TV ever gets stolen I know where to go to get it back.

  • LesleyNZ

    Absolutely correct John. They are pulling them down in England because of this.

    • Justsayn

      What are they building in their place? Might they let the market decide that?

      • Last I looked, more medium and high rises in their place

  • seems to me

    Seems to me that people are buying them. Hence there is a market. So you dont like the way they look…..simple solution….dont look at them.
    Comparison to UK slum highrises is not valid as they were built by gummint and rented to loosers…..oops sorry, those on a benefit.
    Sheesh and I though people reading this blog were not communists.

    • LesleyNZ

      You have no choice but to look at them – A yellow blot on the landscape. Auckland Prison is so much nicer and in comparison – ergonomically designed.

      • Justsayn

        You and John should join the Greens – seems you have more in common than you think.

    • johnbronkhorst

      This is a take it or leave it wet dream for lennie. If you don’t think that within 5-10 years , these will be largely rentals…then you a deluded. This a shoe box full of STARTER homes, kiwi’s are known for moving on from here. What better way than, in 10 years, taking out a mortgage on this apartment and your new home while renting out the apartment to pay for both mortgages?

      • BigDes

        I can see both sides here. Sounds a bit ” like not in my backyard”. If people buy them, get established, then move up the ladder, that is the market working, and hard working kiwis all getting ahead and contributing is what we want right? PS, I don’t live in AKL, never will and you’re welcome to it.

        • johnbronkhorst

          I don’t live in Auckland either….but I can see and call BULL SHIT (on lennie)!!!

      • Kacanga

        Good luck with that. Don’t you remember what happened after the last housing boom ( or was it the one before that) ? You could barely give away those crappy little “apartments.

    • Jman

      Just because there is a demand for something isn’t a reason for why it should be built. You might demand a nuclear weapon but you’re not going to get it. As for renting to losers, who do you think is going to be living in these kind of apartments in 20 years time?

      • Tom

        20 years? It’ll take 3 to 5 years max

      • johnbronkhorst

        NO…There is a demand for HOUSING…that is not the same as a demand for apartment living!!
        Elephants are large and grey, Elephants are animals
        so by your’s and lennies logic…all animals are large and grey?

    • Hazards001

      Got plans for a high rise do you?

  • LesleyNZ

    DON”T say it!

    • Tom

      What? Cunt? Len is a prime cunt, so why not?

  • Ronnie Chow

    Cool . We can have pigs and ducks on balconies , chickens killed in front of you before being butchered on the ground floor . Probably even Cactus Kate would be interested if they have roast Pigeon , next to the Yum Cha in the food court .

    • Justsayn

      You sound a bit like those predicting that the Marriage equality legislation would lead to bigamy and bestiality.

      Like the sound of the yum cha though.

      • Ronnie Chow
        • Justsayn

          Hey I know a really good looking horse that you might like. She can be a bit negative, a real neighsayer, but you and she might get along…

          • Bafacu

            You shouldn’t talk about Labour’s “Lady in waiting” like that

          • Justsayn

            Andrew Little?

        • tarkwin

          Sad stuff Ronnie.

          • Ronnie Chow

            We’re on the Road To Perdition , tarkwin .

            “What’s our policy on multiple marriage partners , Clint ? WHAT , you mean we’re FOR it . But but , but nobody said . Clint ,CLINT , help me out here man , say something …….

  • Where will everyone live?

    Auckland can not keep growing out forever. Eventually people will have to start going up.

    But the problem will be that these places start out as owner occupiers and end up as fully tenanted and thus the problems will start.

    • tarkwin

      Plenty of room up here. Once you get past Te Hana (we always laugh going South, it’s the start of the super city and a total dive) the sun starts shining. In Waipu you can buy a half acre section over the road from the RSA and 2 minutes walk to town for $139,000. Nice houses being built there, about 30 sections in the subdivision by the look of it.

  • Ronnie Chow

    I can vividly remember the idealism behind the London ‘New Town’ planning in the ’70s . Too many towers , too high , too densely packed . Doomed from the start .

    • johnbronkhorst

      A friend lived on the 18th floor (out of 20). Lifts barely worked, druggies needles in them, smell of urine etc.
      Noise from the neighbours on both sides, below and above.

      • Justsayn

        Why did they live there?

        • johnbronkhorst

          Do you know anything about London? Especially then (70’s-80’s) like lennie is trying to do….there was NO choice!!!

          • Justsayn

            Their choice was to live in London. If there were no urban limits how much do you think they would have had to pay for a good home on the edge?

            Look I’m not saying we should restrict choice, but if we allow choice you’ll still get some of these apartments near you. You cannot prevent that unless to become the very regulator you are (rightly) deriding.

          • johnbronkhorst

            No…NO CHOICE this was socialist Britain of the 70’s still prevalent in the GLC in the 80’s.

          • Gazzaw

            The socialist Britain that Thatcher did her best to put right.

  • GregM

    Apartments definitely have their place. I live in one, and manage 142 others. Over the last year there has been a large shift to “owner occupiers” in the ones I manage.
    $250k for a brand new home is an option that suits some people.

  • ratesarerevolting

    Len brown is fucking cunt !

    • Justsayn

      Tourette’s?

      • No, he’s actually a fucking cunt.

        • Justsayn

          Fuck

      • Sponge

        No – facts

  • LabTested

    My Vote for NZ’s ugliest Apartment Building is Scene One at the bottom of Anzac Ave Auckland

    Google Street View shows that it is already starting to degrade.

    WO. Can we name & shame the Architects who are creating this crap

    • sheppy

      Did the local toddler group design that or is it based on a prison with added balcony’s?

      • Justsayn

        They are truly horrible, and yet seem to have high occupancy rates. Sadly, people will build whatever turns the biggest profit for them. That is how the market works.

        This ugly cluster were the poster boys for the old ACC introducing tighter controls to prevent the market building what it wanted to build. If you want to change that you have to regulate to control the market. Take that too far and you are the Labour-Green duo-of-regulation.

  • johnbronkhorst

    Things people forget about apartment living.
    The mortgage is NOT the only costs.
    There are body corporate fees!!! For the up keep of the building and surrounds, the common areas inside, cleaning, the elevators etc, safety inspection, fire suppression, insurance etc etc
    There are also often rules regarding living there.
    Noise…eg must have carpeting to dampen noise, pest reporting and clearance (cockroaches etc), Required up keep of your own facilities so as not to a effect your neighbours eg if a tap leaks, fills your bath and overflows it will effect your neighbours below, so maintenance is at the determination of the building manager…LIABILITY insurance, fire insurance as it not only effects you it effects all your neighbours…etc etc

  • Get a grip

    An apology-I thought infratil were building this as a developer-didnt really appreciate it is in partnership with the $%^&*( council!!! As long as the council dont end up owning the thing then that might be OK. If they end up as the building managers – THEN it will be a fuckup!

    • Kacanga

      The Council will end up subsidising these as”Social Housing” OOPS! More rates increase coming up!

  • Ronnie Chow

    In India , Cows , the worker lays down to sleep right where he works . Then there is the vast gulf across to your lifestyle . Let people be people .

  • For your edification and consideration… The Telegraph reports:

    The average size of a newbuild one-bedroom home in Britain is now no bigger than an underground train carriage, it was revealed today.

    Developers faced with sky-high land prices are cramming a lounge, kitchen, bedroom, and bathroom into just 46 square metres.

    That is the same size as a Jubilee Line tube carriage, according to the Royal Institute of British Architects (RIBA).

    Outside of London there are no minimum standards and regulations for home builders on the size of a house or flat.

    A room needs natural light from just one window measuring a tiny 45cm x 45cm, or the size of an average cushion.

    As a result, thousands of people are now living in a “cramped, dark, artificially lit environment”, the RIBA says.

    Linky: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/10012254/Average-one-bedroom-new-build-no-bigger-than-an-underground-train-carriage.html

    This is what awaits the poor unfortunates living six stories up in Auckland, if Red Len gets his way. Beware.

    • NotForTurning

      This is what awaits the poor unfortunates living six stories up in Auckland, if Red Len gets his way. Beware.

      Who gives a fuck about where “poor unfortunates” live. It’s still cheaper for taxpayers than extended Paremoremo.

  • Ronnie Chow

    They aren’t in Asia . Thailand , Japan , spotless , quiet , and affordable Just don’t let the Government rent any of the units .

    • johnbronkhorst

      Yes but in many parts of Asia the punishment for not keeping them clean is very harsh, also with the MASSIVE population density it is necessary! NOT necessary here!!!

  • Steve (North Shore)

    And dogs will live in them

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