You won’t see this in National

The National party hierarchy actively seek to exclude women, especially if they are “breeders”, and particularly in the LNI region.

I know of several selection candidates who were specifically asked if they had finished having children, or intended to have more. A question never asked of a man.

Compare that misogynist, outdated behaviour with the case of  Italian MEP Licia Ronzulli.


While many little girls dream of growing up to be a princess or a ballerina, this toddler clearly has politics in her sights.

Little Victoria Cerioli is only two but is already making her mark in the field, becoming a familiar face at the European Parliament.

The youngster joined her mother, Italian MEP Licia Ronzulli, at the sitting in Strasbourg today.

Wearing a cream jumper to match her mum, the little girl even raised her hand to join the vote.

Victoria is growing accustomed to appearing on the political mainstage.

Mrs Ronzulli first brought her daughter to the European Parliament when she was just six weeks old back in September 2010.

The working mum took advantage of relatively relaxed rules allowing women to take their babies to work by cradling Victoria in a sling during the debate.

But while Mrs Ronzulli juggled being a mum and an MEP with ease, baby Victoria was clearly worn out by the lengthy discussions, sleeping throughout the experience.

Since then, the 37-year-old, who is a member of the environment, health and food safety commission, has brought her child with her to many voting sessions.

The buggers muddle and the misogynists of LNI region really do need to stop their sexist behaviour.



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  • Cam Slater – Feminist.

    • LesleyNZ

      I think you might be right Petal! Check out the third definition.
      A person who supports equality between the sexes. Feminists can be (and are) women, men, and transpeople. Feminists are black, white, and everything in between. Feminists are straight, gay, and bisexual. Feminists understand that inequality effects everyone.

      Feminists ARE NOT Nazis, or women who can’t get laid. The very existence of these views is proof that feminism still has a lot of work to do.

      Some feminists shave, and some don’t. Some are “fashionable”, some aren’t. Just like any other group of people.

      Not all feminists are lesbians, though lesbians can be feminists. The ongoing Civil Rights movement and the push for gay marriage are often associated with feminism as each cause expresses a very sane desire to create world recognition of our intrinsic equality.

  • Gazzaw

    Cam Slater – getting domestic brownie points?

  • LesleyNZ

    Sitting listening to politicians who are so full of their own self importance? Talk about indoctrinating a child at an early age. Let the children play without burdens. Childhood is for such a short time. Nothing great at all about what this mother is doing.

    • williamabong

      You actually believe that !!!!!, if you worked for me I would be drug testing your arse out the gate right about now.

      • LesleyNZ

        You don’t make sense.

        • williamabong

          Sorry , I can’t hear you, must be that bible your standing on.

          • LesleyNZ

            I wouldn’t be standing on the Bible but yes you can’t hear.

      • LesleyNZ

        Oh – and don’t think I would want to work for you.

        • williamabong

          So sorry but you will never get the opportunity, i have always had a policy of not employing nutters.

          • LesleyNZ

            Funny – I have always had a policy for not working for one.

    • Ronnie Chow

      Eh ? Bubba is with mum . That’s all that matters . Bonding , Lesley , is far more important than play .

      • LesleyNZ

        You call that bonding? All that matters? No I don’t think so.

        • Ronnie Chow

          Yes Lesley , that is bonding , proximity to mother , as also seen with other animals . The most important beginning for all babies. You would chuck the kid in some understaffed playcenter ?

          • LesleyNZ

            It is a form of bonding. Not the ideal bonding environment and situation for such a young baby. Enjoy your baby – take time out -they are babies for such a short time in a mother’s lfe. No I would not chuck the kid in some understaffed playcentre. Mrs Ronzulli is putting her need for politics before her child’s needs – especially so in the second photo. Mrs Ronzulli is being held up as modern day feminist. She may think she is liberated but she doesn’t see that she is actually in bondage to the feminist belief.

          • Kimbo

            This is not about the ideology of radical feminsim (which seems to be the assumption of your equally extreme ideology, judged by your posts).

            Suffrage pre-dated feminism by decades. Suffrage was about choice. If this woman doesn’t want to to take an active part in politics, she doesn’t have to. If she does, she can – which she is.

            How, other than having to listen to some boring convulted ideological argument from you, is she not exercising the choise that the suffrage movement made possible?

          • LesleyNZ

            Where did I mention radical feminisim? You are the one assuming. Choice – yes. Right choice? Just because you have a choice doesn’t mean that the choice you choose is the right choice.

          • Kimbo

            “Where did I mention radical feminisim”

            Ummm…”She may think
            she is liberated but she doesn’t see that she is actually in bondage to
            the feminist belief”.

            I added the adjective because feminism of its very
            nature (like Marxism, ethno-cultural empowerment studies, and LGBT
            theory) is, of its very nature, radical/critical, i.e., a formal
            challenge and attempt to transform existing social structures.

            Which you are clearly unhappy with. Based on your posts


            I note your unctuous, arrogant, and pious response, “Choice – yes.
            choice? Just because you have a choice doesn’t mean that the choice you
            choose is the right choice”, unadorned with a single fact to support
            your supposition confirms you are an arrogant ideological zealot cut
            from the same cloth.

          • LesleyNZ

            1. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.
            2. The movement organized around this belief.

            Compare feminism with the radical feminist. There is a difference.

            “I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.”
            – Margaret Thatcher

          • NotForTurning

            Suffrage and feminism are one and the same, steps on the road to socialism.

            NZ and the US were founded on the principle that only nett taxpayers – heads of families – voted. The rot started as soon as that changed.

          • Pharmachick

            Thanks NotForTuning, its good to see that some of the Neanderthals survived. Perhaps you can donate some DNA to science???

      • LabTested

        Kid looks bored to death. Mum is listening to a translation & Twittering at the same time. Hardly quality mother daughter time. Children need a range of stimulation and I question how much the European Parliament meets their development needs

  • I have never been comfortable with Women in politics – or in the workforce at all, for that matter.
    The last thing National needs is another Ruth Richardson destroying 1/4 of National’s voting base in a single evening, or a Marilyn Waring bringing down the government so I do not think weeding out the unsuitable women is such a bad thing.
    I think there are some National women who neglect their families and should be ashamed of themselves.

    • Ronnie Chow

      MK , are you fishing or depth sounding ?

    • Gazzaw

      There’s a few National blokes who aren’t that shit hot on the home front either.

      • Perhaps, but they are not wives and mothers are they?

        • Gazzaw

          No. They are husbands and fathers.

    • NotForTurning

      The last thing National needs is another Ruth Richardson destroying 1/4 of National’s voting base in a single evening,

      Cheap at the price. What NZ needs is another Ruth Richardson re-doing everything that Ruth did – but that was undone by Hellen – and then to finish the job that Ruth wasn’t allowed to do. Do that today, thanks to GATT/MAI/TPP – they cannot be undone. Once the state schools and hospitals are sold, once the benefits have stopped, they can never be brought back — or rather, can only be brought back at the cost of an immediate end to NZ’s trading access to Asia, the US, and Europe – a price even the McGullicudite Greens will not pay.

      Even if that completely destroyed National, the price would be more than worth it.

      • Finished your trolling for today? or are there another 99 attention seeking show off posts to come?

    • Pharmachick

      In 2013?
      Well, for the record, I have issues with misogynist fucks who “have never been comfortable with women …” regardless of what comes after the ellipsis, you have some serious issues with equality, women and gender issues buddy. I’d go on, but it would likely be wasted on you.

      • Yes it would be wasted on me; I believe women are, and should be, subservient to men, should not work, drive, vote or do anything other than be wives and Mothers.
        I do not care about your ‘issues’ – as they are probably something childish.

  • peterwn

    “I know of several selection candidates who were specifically asked if
    they had finished having children, or intended to have more. A question
    never asked of a man.”

    Cam – At what point in the proceedings – nomination or Board ‘veto’ or pre-selection or ‘meet the contenders’ meetings or selection stage? Members / Delegates have a democratic right to ask such a question IMO. Anyway what do you think this is – the Green Party?

    The party has come a long way since an Auckland Womans Division committee member told mum “We leave politics to the men”.

    • Michael

      If National keeps putting up mostly white males as candidates it won’t reach the 70% of the electorate who are not white or male. And having a few token candidates is even worse!

    • pre-selection, and in selection meetings

  • williamabong

    There are lots of things you wont see in the current National offering, balls and spine are two that come mind straight away.

    • I have it on good authority Collins is helping Key look for his.

      • williamabong

        The spine or the balls, in all seriousness National have become the masters of over promise and under delivery, welfare and the RMA being two glaring examples.

        • Mediaan

          Utter nonsense. Radical sudden moves on this or that are not good government. Good government is a lot of hard work, gradually getting there, making sure you are in tune with the general public, working with integrity.

          Get a good job, any job, and see how well you do if you move in sudden abrupt directions on change.

          • williamabong

            So how do you describe the current state of affairs between Forest and Bird and Bathurst Mining, where they have been prevented from starting operations through F & B continually objecting even after concessions have been made, and a judgement entered into.

          • Mediaan

            Irrelevant. Not government, not National, and not germane to sudden extreme job decisions either. Try to talk sense.

  • Orange

    Career politicians starting even younger nowadays I see.

    • Muffin

      About the same mental age as that green loser that parrots that other loser clint.

  • Phar Lap

    After viewing some of the heifers in Lie-bour party and the other unelected pest party greens .Most of the females look like men ,or maybe thats why the mentioned parties employ them,not much chance of breeding.

    • williamabong

      How dare you, one more comment like that and I will have Darien whip out her cock and give you a good seeing to.

      • Patrick

        She is saving herself for hardened crims – has conjugal visiting rights apparently

  • Colin Cloudesley

    I have no problem with mums having children at work, as long as they do not scream.
    But if you look at Labour and the Greens I doubt if they would be able to control the children while sitting in the house.
    Normal Norman and Nosy Shearer would both be looking at each other wondering if it was there kid running around the house making a nose and Dave Carter asking both of them to remove it.

    • LesleyNZ

      Have you seen children with their mums at work? Can’t see how the mum can work effectively and not be distracted by their child. Not fair to the child and the employer.

      • NotForTurning

        MPs don’t have employers. Especially MEPs who aren’t even elected.

  • Mediaan

    I hope she didn’t drug it in its first year or so to keep it quiet. Not usual for a baby under two to be quiet enough to be in a parliament.

  • LesleyNZ

    Hubby asked – “Where is the father……suppose he is not that important………”

  • NotForTurning



    Love one, hate the other, but the only serious changes made to NZ since Muldoon were made by women.

  • Mr_V4

    And how many times have we seem Labour doing this?
    It’s not going to happen esp. with creeps like Mallard hanging around parliamanent.

    • williamabong

      Just scary to think of this, some poor young mother starts to breast feed and Mallards off to the dunny for wank, disgusting prick.