Get a load of this rates bill…only a 404.8% increase

via the tipline:

See attached screen shot from my rates bill for a car park.
That’s right, a car park…

car park rates v2-1

rates on a car park...

Lucky for the 10%  cap for this rates increase. But what happens at the end of the transition period. This ratepayer is still going to suffer a massive jump at the end of the transition period. The Auckland Council website has the bad news:

For the 2013/2014 rating year, your rates increase will be capped at 10 per cent of your 2012/2013 rates amount (including transition adjustment).

For the 2014/2015 rating year, your rates increase will be capped at 10 per cent of your 2013/2014 rates amount (including transition adjustment).

All ratepayers will be transitioned to their new rates amount in the 2015/2016 rating year.

When is Len Brown going to come clean on the real rates increases his council is stiffing us all for?


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  • pauleastbay

    You rich bastard, having the termerity to own a vehicle, shame.

  • Gazzaw

    Len Brown won’t have time to explain. He’s only got five months left. Isn’t that right Maurice?

    • LesleyNZ

      Not when Maurice keeps going on and on about his gay rainbow. There are still heterosexuals who live in New Zealand and a lot in Auckland and a lot are ratepayers. The last sentence in the Newstalk ZB story is not what I want to see an Auckland Mayor doing.
      “He says he wants the opportunity to sell New Zealand to homosexuals around the world as an attractive country to visit.”
      Williamson wants Ellen to focus on NZ, not him
      By: Newstalk ZB staff | Latest Political News | Friday May 10 2013 6:34–not-him
      “Maurice Williamson has told the producers of the Ellen show he won’t appear if the focus is on him.
      It’s been three weeks since the National MP was offered a spot on the US talk show after his ‘big gay rainbow’ speech in parliament on same sex marriage.
      The New Zealand Herald reports he says he’s keen for it to be about New Zealand and being a tolerant society.
      But Mr Williamson says the producers are keen for the show to be about him, because it’s about people not countries.
      He says he wants the opportunity to sell New Zealand to homosexuals around the world as an attractive country to visit.”

      • Gazzaw

        Lesley you really disappoint me. I supported your stance on gay marriage but wasn’t prepared to die in a ditch over it. How an intelligent woman could contemplate denying support to Williamson because of his stance on gay marriage is totally beyond me. Single issue mentality at it’s thickest.

        • Polish Pride

          An intelligent woman couldn’t. An intelligent woman could however see the stupidity of her thinking on a particular subject and change it.

          • LesleyNZ

            According to your intelligence.

          • Polish Pride

            Lesley I give you more credit in that statement than you realize. If Maurice Williamson is still banging on about the homosexual vote thing and runs for Mayor and you are happy with all his other policies…..If his main opposition is still Len Brown.. are you going to still not vote for him because of his stance on homosexuality……?

        • LesleyNZ

          I am very sorry to disappoint you Gazzaw. As I said below to the very intelligent Polish Pride – “If Maurice Williamson wants to be Mayor of Auckland then he needs to stop banging on about gay rainbows and the stupid Ellen Degenerates Show. I want a mayor who is focussed on what is best for the ratepayer of Auckland.” Maurice is shaping his own profile of how he is to be as Mayor. Social issues play a big part these days in Local Council and I can’t agree or support his social liberal stance – just as I can’t support Len Brown’s socialist money spending agenda. By continuing on with the Helen Degenerates show, Maurice is showing what is very important to him. He has had wonderful publicity and stardom at the expense of what I personally believe in – the Christian belief. If I say I don’t like what he is doing I get very nasty comments directed at me. When I vote for someone – it done with a conscience. How can I vote for someone who is happily continuing on in mocking and make fun of my belief? The Helen Degenerates Show will be the icing on the cake. What this gay marriage bill has really brought out is the intolerance for Christians and the fact that what was right and wrong in the yesteryear days is now the opposite. Wrong is right and right is wrong these days. If Judith Collins (who voted for the gay marriage bill) was to stand as Mayor – I would be the first one at the polling booth to vote for her.

          • Polish Pride

            Fair enough on your post up until this point Lesley

            “What this gay marriage bill has really brought out is the intolerance for Christians”
            No in that context what it brought out was an intolerance for Christians (or anyone else for that matter) thinking that they can and should be able to dictate to others how they live their lives.
            There is a difference.

          • LesleyNZ

            I say I don’t agree with gay marriage and I am intolerant? Am I not allowed an opinion? Getting back to it. Civil Union was supposed to be the answer to equality but no way was that ever going to be the solution – gay marriage was always on the table in the minds of those who pushed Civil Union and that was the plan – get everyone used to Civil Union and same-sex unions – then wham-mo – hit them with gay marriage and changing the definition of marriage. That was always the plan. That is what I object to. Civil Union I reluctantly accepted – Gay marriage I do not. The gay marriage architects had very, very clever and cunning plan. Maurice Williamson would be best to move on – but it appears he won’t. If he wants to keep polarising voters – then it is up to him. There are a lot of voters in Auckland who think the way I do – they just don’t make comment. There is a sweeping intolerance for Christians and those who believe in the Judeo-Christian ethic. It is to be expected. So be it. Ephesians 6:10-18

          • There is a sweeping intolerance for people who believe in anything

            You’re not special

          • LesleyNZ

            I know. I am not special.

          • Polish Pride

            Hmmm interesting. To give a little more context to my situation most of my family are strong Christians and to a degree I do think you got caught between a rock and a hard place on the Gay Marriage issue.
            As I said the problem most had was Christians saying you can’t do that because the bible says so. For those not Christian this seems ludicrous as they do not believe in the bible and see no reason as to why it should have to affect their lives and their choices.
            However what is missed is that you as a Christian are simply giving your viewpoint on the issue as you should be as entitled as anyone else in a (so called ) democratic society to do. Your viewpoint has been shaped by your religion but at the end of the day it is still your viewpoint so should be given the same level of respect as anyone elses be they Christian, muslim, jewish, gay, straight, man, woman, agnostic and so on. This viewpoint should be able to be given and received without it being labeled bigoted (as I have probably been guilty of doing in the gay marriage debate) or anything else for that matter.

          • the problem with modern society is that every cunt has a viewpoint and sweet fuck all of them deserve respect because the overwhelming majority of them boil down to self-serving fuckwittery

          • Polish Pride

            very true…

          • LesleyNZ

            NMR – Please can you repeat what you have said (perhaps using the Queen’s English) leaving out all the vulgar, crass and swear words? Then I think I might be able to understand you better.

          • Maurice is a Christian….my mother was the god mother of his children too…your beliefs are his beliefs and you just disagree on one issue. He wasn’t mocking your beliefs he was mocking the attitude (which aren’t beliefs) of a few people who ranted at him in his office.

          • LesleyNZ

            I have taken a while to reply Whale – because I had to think about what my reply should be. You say Maurice’s belief is my belief. If you are a Christian you want to glorify God in EVERYTHING you do and say. Some wrote silly things about the drought and ranted and yes you can laugh that off, but it was what he said about the gay rainbow and hell and eternity and what he said at the end of his speech that cut deep. As a Christian you do believe that the world was flooded because of mankind’s disobedience to God. As a Christian you also know the promise God made to mankind when He painted a rainbow across the sky – that he would never flood the world again. As a Christian why would you make gay rainbow jokes? Maurice also joked about hell and eternity. Eternity is very real. We all have to enter eternity eventually. Christians believe hell is real and a terrible place. We don’t really know what is like but it is described in the Bible as a lake of fire. Why would a Christian want to joke about hell if you know what the Gospel message is? Then at the end of Maurice’s speech he quoted the verse Deuteronomy 1v29. “Be ye not afraid”. The context is that the Israelites were not to be afraid of the sons of the Anakims because God was going before them. Then Maurice said he thought Deuteronomy “was a cat out of the musical Cats” It is not the mocking of those who ranted and wrote the silly letters – it is the mocking of God’s word and the response from the majority of parliamentarians afterwards that I just can’t see myself voting for Maurice for AKLD Mayor. Since the night of the vote yes the sun has risen, the rain has come and beautiful rainbows have painted the sky. I am not afraid because I know God is good and He is control of this crazy mixed up world. One last thing. If you click on this link you will see why I feel the way I do.
            “New Zealand Parliament rocked with laughter as MP pokes fun at anti-gay marriage zealots”
   This is a good example of how Maurice’s speech has been received worldwide. Going on the Ellen show just rubs it in even more.

            So I ask the question of Maurice – as a Christian did you realise that as you poked fun at the over the top ranters in your speech, you also poked fun at God?

      • may god strike him down eh Lezzie?

        • LesleyNZ

          Nasty – feel good?

        • LesleyNZ

          And I would hate to see Maurice struck down.

          • Dave

            Glad you feel that way about Auckland’s next Mayor Lesley!!! Go Maurice.

      • Polish Pride

        And your comment even helps prove him wrong….

        The New Zealand Herald reports he says he’s keen for it to be about New Zealand and being a tolerant society.
        Its not their are too many people who are racist and bigoted and worry far too much about what others should and shouldn’t do with their own lives for it to be considered a tolerant society. Sadly Mr Williamson would simply be perpetuating a lie.
        If not for the fact that it would make their life far more difficult in general, I’d wish that one of your grandchildren turned out to be homosexual so that it would open your eyes to the fact that despite this they are still your grandchild and you don’t love them any less because of it.
        It would at that point probably change your prejudiced perception of all Gay people.

        • LesleyNZ

          If any of may grandchildren chose the homosexual lifestyle I would deeply love them (and part of me could even love them more) however they would also know that their lifestyle is not one I support. Their eternal salvation is what matters to me. We are on this earth for such a fleeting moment in time and history. If Maurice Williamson wants to be Mayor of Auckland then he needs to stop banging on about gay rainbows and the stupid Ellen Degenerates show. I want a mayor who is focussed on what is best for the ratepayer of Auckland.

          • homosexuality is a choice?

            what about that cross you bear, christianity, was that a choice too?

      • Travis Poulson

        “Not when Maurice keeps going on and on about his gay rainbow.”

        Come on Lesley,it was ONE speech. Hardly going on and on about it. It’s the media that goes on and on about it, not Maurice.

  • GregM

    What a fucking joke, how many council services does a car park use? How many people are living there? LBIAFC.

    • Gazzaw

      Len has to keep the trough full somehow Greg. Bloody hell there’s business class air travel, 5 star accommodation, the mayoral limo, sister city junkets, trade missions, corporate hosting, the spin doctor team………….the list of life’s necessities as mayor of the world’s most liveable city is endless. Oops! Nearly forgot to mention the family Christmas ham.

      • parorchestia

        And a good enough salary to support his large footprint home – no high density cupboard-sized apartments for our Len. Only for other folks.

    • tarkwin

      This is the latest way of softening up the rate payers. First they charge you residential rates for a car park and then abracadabra 3 hikois and a powhiri later you end up living in an apartment the same size overlooking a railway track. By this time you will have learned to love big brother and his train set.

  • Polish Pride

    I haven’t really paid attention to you guys bleating on about Auckland City Council and Len Brown, mainly because I don’t live there and it doesn’t affect me. But looking at this I can understand why almost $400.00 for rates on a car park is ludicrous. Their will be no council services to it and is 1/3 of what I pay in rates. This is simply a rort and a bureaucracy gone mad. Seems like some work needs to be done on what the role and responsibility of the supercity council should be and where its limitations should lie.

    • GregM

      You should pay attention PP, what Len gets away with here with will be coming to a council near you next.

      • Polish Pride

        We are lucky Our Mayor from what I can see is a good guy and actually understands our community very well – If anything he is the only civil servant that I’d consider to be underpaid and that’s saying something. I think the reason he is underpaid is that he understands cutting your coat according to your cloth.

        I’d tell you who he is but I don’t want anyone convincing him to move to Auckland to run for the Auckland Mayoralty. Even at twice his current salary I suspect he’d still be significantly cheaper and far more effective than what you have at present.

      • Agent BallSack

        Thank God for Lower Hutt. And no you will never hear those words out of my lips again Greg!

      • parorchestia

        It already has! 10% for my holiday home. And a poll tax, small now but wait a few years.

  • GregM

    There may be a way of tacking the car park title on to another property as an “auxiliary unit”. This would eliminate this bill, I would be having a word to the lawyer.

  • The MSM breathlessly reported that “the 2.9% rates rise passes”. How does Len do it? Does he go ’round and give them all a cut of the take? How can the media be so tame on this? It isn’t THIS year’s rise, it is the fact that the true increase is locked in for the next 3 when the rises will not be “2.9%”.

    • sheppy

      I think he’s covered by the all lefties can do no wrong and we will report exactly what they tell us to say rule – ain’t that right #HeyClint

  • cows4me

    Love it, compounding rate increases, you guys are sooooooooooo lucky

  • Agent BallSack

    Now that the Kapiti Expressway has had its first sod turned, I cordially invite you all to come live in Wellington. Less Rates & awesome coffee, just find a house full of corpses and move on in.

    • Gazzaw

      Have they made provision for a mobility scooter lane on the Expressway ABS or is it open season on senior cits?

      • Agent BallSack

        We actually have a cycle lane all the way to Waikanae, I suppose they can share that…

    • Salacious T Crumb

      We would if it wasn’t for the crap climate and fact it is apparently dying….

      • tarkwin

        Plan B, pop up past the Brynderwyns. Plenty of room up here, apparently they’re going to build the holiday highway one day. I’d be inclined to give it a miss today though – the weather is absolutely awful here in the winterless north.

  • Justsayn

    About time this freeloader paid his or her fair share and stopped bulging of the rest of the ratepayers. Scap the 10% max!

  • Justsayn

    You are (perhaps deliberately) confusing two separate issues – rates increases (how much the Council is taking in overall), and how rates are apportioned between ratepayers (your own rates bill).

    The Council fixes how much money it want to steal from us (the total rates burden) and then uses various ways of figuring out how much of that we each should pay (the apportionment).

    The overall rates burden is the key figure, keep that down! That is what most of you seem concerned about (and righty).

    The second part just needs to be fair (and nothing is perfect). For every person who feels hard done by there are others you will think their is okay (but no one like to pay their tax). But those issues are not about “money grabs” as the total amount the Council is stealing is the same – they are about apportionment. By confusing the two issues you risk losing focus, and being written of as a bunch of self-interest moaners who want the other ratepayers to subsidise you. That is how this person with his carpark seems to me. He may think there is a more equitable way to apportion the rate burden (one that means he pays a smaller share), but that is a different debate altogether.

  • Catweasel321

    Who pays only $92.55 in rates? Is that just an installment or an annual?

    My rates bill installments are greater than the adjusted amount on this account.

    It would seem that a whole lot of subsidisation has suddenly ended.

    It seems those who created this Frankenstein Monster hadn’t boned up on the
    outcome in the literary version beforehand.

    Looks like when creating this unrepresentative corporate structure in order to distance commercial agendas from public consultation they, naturally, thought they’d be at the helm and its principle beneficiaries but failed to give thought to what if not?

    Whoever brought this Ubber council into being, with its attendant promises of
    greater efficiencies of scale in exchange for lesser representation, should be
    hounded from office along with those who championed it and the CCO corporate structure with its lack of direct accountability to ratepayers.

    And the Minister in charge of its implementation, wherever he may be, not
    allowed to stand for public office again nor his party to boot.

  • Sponge

    I can’t believe that no one has said it yet……

    • Justsayn

      Len Brown is a… typical politician who pushes his own ideological agenda and would consider saying anything that will keep his hands of the levers of power?

      • Sponge

        Something like that.

      • Sponge

        But perhaps a little bit pithier.

        • Len Brown is a fucking cunt!

          • Doo-dah! Doo-dah!

          • Sponge

            There we go – normality is restored to the universe.

    • Bunswalla

      Actually Greg said 10 hours ago, albeit in code.


      • Sponge

        Right you are – I missed that.

  • Lion_ess

    Rates are a tax – not a fee for services. As long as the people of Auckland continue to elect Mr Brown as Mayor, they can do what they like. Add your rates, water and other taxes/levies that go by different names to your main tax bill and you will see your tax rate is around 68% of income.