The actual TXT log between Aaron and Andrew

Care of Stuff:

AaronGilmoreText2

As I post this, he’s still hiding away in his office hoping all this will go away.  You lying alcoholic dickhead.  There is no way out of this.  Why don’t you understand?

There is only one thing left to do that shows any kind of honour, and that’s to fall on your sword, finally, for the sake of the National Party.

One win?  EVERYONE knows who you are now.  At least that’s something to take away from your stellar career in Parliament.

Go now.

Go go.

There’s a good boy.

 


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  • Andy

    Oh I see there is a racist angle now…

    • Andy

      I was merely repeating what was in the message log, btw, for the guy who voted me down

      • Travis Poulson

        I suspect that’s why he’s holed up in his office at the moment. He’s browsing through WOBH downvoting everything that makes him look bad.

        • Andy

          Unfortunately the guy plays into the hands of the Nat haters perfectly. Political Euthanasia is the only option,

  • SnapElection

    na. offer Labour+Greens confidence & Supply.

    Snap Election!

    • OT Richter

      The Greens can invent another 100,000 voters.

  • Mr_Blobby

    Pretty sure by there silence that Labor and the Greens want you to stay.

    • BJ

      The Labour and the Greens are staying quiet because there’s nothing needed for them to stir up – the media and the likes of this blog are doing a superb job of crucifying the guy without any help from the opposition – and they know it’s all wrong. In fact they’re probably scheming a wining formula for how to get supporters to cannibalize the National Party themselves.

  • Cadwallader

    The maturity and dignity of troughers……

  • kehua

    Too lazy to work and too gutless to steal, just another loser from Quake City.

    • Sponge

      Go and fuck yourself with a fish fork. Some of us down here are doing good work. Just because Gilmore is a gormless git does not mean we all are.

      And Gareth Hughes is a rat faced cunt – Just as I suspect you are.

  • BJ

    Why can’t any of you see that this text communication supports what Aaron Gilmore has been saying – that claims were made by the barman about the others in his group – Gilmore did not say he himself was making those claims.

    The most obvious thing to me is that Aarons response “I know. They are trying to make it seem bigger than that….” was in response to Andrews “What? That’s ridiculous, we were lovely to him…..” AND therefore one of two things has happened. Either Aaron Gilmore sent his response as Andrew sent his – therefore Aaron missed that particular post as he was looking at his as the most recent post OR Andrew has deleted Aarons response to “I didn’t write that note ……..” As any of us with a smart phone knows you can select any part of the conversation you might have a reason to delete.
    This text evidence right in front of our faces backs up what Aaron Gilmore maintains why are so many of you blind to that fact.

    • unsol

      Completely agree. It doesn’t add up & everyone is jumping the gun. He sounds like a tosser, but nothing about this warrants the calls for his resignation.

      There is more to this story; I want to know why Riches went to the media & what he hopes to gain from this. He has no one to blame but himself for his name his being dragged down with Gilmore’s.

    • LabTested

      ‘as any of us with a smart phone knows you can select any part of the conversation you might have a reason to delete’

      In which case Aaron will have a copy of the actual conversation on his phone.

      On iphones, how does that date/time relate to the message & why are there only a few times displayed? I have a Samsung, so don’t know how the iphone works

      • BJ

        Well I hope he does have a copy – unless his ‘friend’ had suggested he delete them – that would be very clever wouldn’t it?

    • And what about Batman?

  • BJ

    I have decided this text conversation has been doctored at some stage to remove any defense or refuted responses from Aaron Gilmore – and no-one seems to care that this whole incident is being twisted to suit own agenda’s – it is nothing but a crock and I am greatly disappointed in you Cameron

    • unsol

      Well said.

      Question is why are a bunch of so-called right wingers so quick to call for the resignation of a Nat MP which, if they get their wish, puts the govt’s majority T risk.

      What do they hope to gain? What’s Cameron’s agenda for jumping in guns blazing so quickly? Hoping there is a spot for him? Or do they all secretly wish & for the left?

      Nothing about this adds up.

      • BJ

        Obviously I don’t know it to be true but I tend to think that Andrew panicked when Aaron handed over his business card and he thought Aaron had been rude and threatening to the barman because he caught a few words that were said. He wrote an apology the next day (what personal sense of guilt was he carrying over from the night before)( and if he thinks only Aaron had anything to apologise for he should have not stuck his beak into what was probably a non-event at that stage) and then it all snowballs from there. Maybe the lads were out to dinner with women they had just met and he did not want any attention – well as you said he invited it one way or the other.

        • Travis Poulson

          “Obviously I don’t know it to be true”

          Yes, and you should have left it there. The last part of your comment is nothing but pure speculation based on assumption.

          • BJ

            No There are a few facts in there as actions stated by both men. Unlike others on here I do not go round saying someone said something only because it suits me to believe it – thats called gossip which amounts to speculation and assumption actually.

          • Travis Poulson

            ” Maybe the lads were out to dinner with women they had just met and he did not want any attention”

            you mean like that?

          • Have actually spoken to Andrew Riches? I have…many times, including yesterday and today…he is an honest and honourable man, one who has won a bravery award for rescuing people in Chch…and Gilmore..well he is a pisshead, buffon and CV bullshit artist…

          • unsol

            Honourable & so honest that he went to the media first & gave them his name? How did they know he was in the group? It wasn’t Gilmore or the waiter….

      • Travis Poulson

        What doesn’t add up is yours and BJ’s mindless support for someone just because he’s a Nat MP (list MP at that).

        • BJ

          Well thats where you’re totally wrong in your assumption. I don’t have any opinion on the guy or his value to National but I can see how the guy is just not getting a fair go over this.

          • Travis Poulson

            You obviously haven’t heard as much about him over the last few days as I have. I’ll leave it at that.

          • unsol

            It isn’t about whether we support him, I have never even heard of him until this fiasco.

            But doesn’t change the fact that the reaction is disproportionate to his crime.

      • He is a list MP you idiot..he resigns another takes his place, no risk to majority

        • SnapElection

          He doesn’t resign. He just toddles over to Shearer & Norman and says “you have my vote”

        • unsol

          Careful Cameron, best not to start calling people names as it makes you out to be someone who does have an agenda; insulting is not a retort.

          Gilmore, in Key’s words is 59th of 59…..

          So who else is on the list then Cameron? Who will take his place?

          If it is no big deal why did Key make a point of saying this & that his resignation could put the majority in jeopardy?

    • Travis Poulson

      I have decided this text conversation has been doctored at some stage to remove any defense or refuted responses from Aaron Gilmore

      Oh good god, did you really just say that. Ok then, its doctored, because you decided it is.

      Yes it is all a big conspiracy, don your tinfoil hat etc

      • BJ

        Because in consecutive order the responses don’t all make sense and yes therefore I believe some of the entries are missing.

        • Travis Poulson

          Have you ever heard Winston in the house?

        • Fuck off…it is a screen shot you fool…what are you Aaron’s girlfriend o random root or something?

          Aaron is a distraction, Phil Goff should have been the news today not Aaron Fucking Gilmore.

          • BJ

            Oh I see – WO doesn’t really let anyone give their opinion. From what I see of how you operate – you will know very well I am nothing to do with Aaron Gilmore, don’t even live on the same island and considering I have sons his age that would make me a cougar and that, I am not. I did not suggest impropriatory on you part but any text entries can be deleted before a screen shot is taken and Gilmore did not respond to at least one of Riches texts.
            Calling someone else a fool is never wise and if Goff was meant to be the news why have you plastered Gilmore all over your blog today?

            You’ve just been about as bloody rude as you could get – would you have liked someone like you saying those things to your mother?
            Sometimes you’re the jerk you know.
            Goodnight

          • Sweet dreams…suggest you stick to bird watching cruises…you seem to do better at that than political commentary…oh and pretending to be a woman when you have a big hippy beard is just funny.

          • BJ

            Yes I know you think you know everything about everybody that is foolish enough to step into your lair. One thing you need to know about me – I don’t tell lies. I am a married woman and share the same email as my husband He has no idea I even post on this blog

          • unsol

            Don’t let him or this rattle you BJ – it is only cyberspace & the reality is he can say whatever he likes as much as he likes, but that doesn’t make it any more truthful.

            All he has on you is your email, your name you have with your email & your IP address. He knows nothing & if he chooses to resort to name calling because he can’t be bothered articulating a proper argument then he is the fool – a hot headed one at that – not you.

            This may his life, but it is not yours. We can just log off & walk away whenever we like so just treat it like the silly game that it is – I do. Look at how I got attacked at every turn on the ME equality debate yet it never phased me. Dotcom, ALex & GG on the other hand clearly got really rattled. But they shouldn’t have – this is just words on a screen; offence can never be given, only taken.

            And make no mistake – I find Cameron a very questionable character at times, but he does bring some very interesting issues to the fore so I keep reading & draw what good I can from it.

            The only thing I don’t like is how the entire blog – actually I would say all blogs & MSM media – is often very negative. It is largely based on the premise of criticising & mocking others & in many ways adds to the us vs them mentality (income, ethnicity, ideology & sexual orientation) which does little to foster change in terms of seeing our country become the one we want. Sure there are some really good debates on here & there is some interesting things that come out of it, but overwhelmingly I find we see these debates bringing out the worst, rather than the best in people – exacerbated by the often inflammatory & dog whistle titles of the post.

            So this makes me curious about Cameron’s intentions & what his game plan is vs his claim that he is a Christian. He is an interesting juxtaposition that’s for sure.

          • unsol

            Well said BJ. He does behave like a petulant jerk & bully when he gets called on things yet has no qualms trying to assert the moral high ground against others.

            Question is, how perfect is Cameron? A quick google reveals he is far from it.

          • SnapElection

            Goff should have been in gaol today, don’t you mean?

          • unsol

            A screen shot after texts have been deleted. If it had been the entire conversation it would have been more than one screen shot….

            Care to retract now Cameron?

          • BJ

            Apart from posting on the emotive subject of ME which felt more like a fight, I endeavor to give my take on things that I see as potentially overlooked or disregarded and when it becomes obvious that on occasions this blog is being used no different to the media organisations that are so criticized and ridiculed by this very blog owner. It is glaringly obvious that Cameron is salivating at the mouth as is many other commenters like a pack of hyena’s in a circle moving in for the kill and laughing with cruelty as they descend upon their prey. I can sense the blood will be dripping from their chins as they grin.

            I stand by my observation that apart from not being privvy to the immediate prior and following texts as well as some gaps in the flow of meaningful responses between AR and AG, I conclude that parts of this text exchange are helpful to Gilmores stance but in the absence of the aforementioned, whole conversation on this – it leaves more questions than answers.

            The moderators on here have said on more than one occasion than Cam Slater isn’t bothered by what others opinions are and doesn’t take any notice of them – it is those assurances that makes one feel it is safe to come here and comment – as long as WO blog rules are adhered to – that one could expect he would show some decency and honour the privacy towards those that have been assured it when signing up to his blog.

          • unsol

            “and when it becomes obvious that on occasions this blog is being used no different to the media organisations that are so criticized and ridiculed by this very blog owner. It is glaringly obvious that Cameron is salivating at the mouth as is many other commenters like a pack of hyena’s in a circle moving in for the kill and laughing with cruelty as they descend upon their prey. I can sense the blood will be dripping from their chins as they grin.”

            and

            “such that one could expect he would show some decency and honour the privacy of those that have been assured it when signing up to his blog.”

            Brilliant stuff. Really couldn’t have said that better. So very true & well said.

            Yes I expect & hope the same, but in saying that there is always a risk when you post online & really – so what if people find out our names & where we live – it’s not like they have access to our address, homes & bank accounts so if people are inclined to become online bullies then they only have as much power as you let them.

            It’s a shame though – I am quite disappointed with the approach on this post (& will add it to what is becoming a long list – including bullying 10 year old kids & saying all teachers are lazy) as you are right – it is no different to the medium they love to criticise. Instead of just taking MSM’s word for it they are swallowing WO’s hook line & sinker.

          • BJ

            To true Unsol

          • Sponge

            Can you please wake the rest of up when your circle jerk has finished?

            Thanks.

  • Now is the time to say goodbye, tomorrow you will become a better person, well we hope so.

    • Travis Poulson

      Leopards, spots and all that.

  • Danny-boy

    Let’s consider two texts:

    A. Riches: “What? That’s ridiculous, we were lovely to him.
    I also never recall you calling anyone a dickhead.”

    B. Gilmore: “I know. They are trying to make it seem bigger
    than that …”

    Some are suggesting that B is a response to A. If so, what does the statement “they are trying to make it seem bigger than that” relate to in A? There is nothing in A that “they” would try to “seem bigger”.

  • OK Next is that jerk Phil Goff, should hold hands with Gilmour and both walk out together.
    Phil Goff here we come, shit bag.

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