Bob Jones kicks another cry-baby

In the same article where he ripped into Claire Nathan for her wailing over a tattoo he also kicks the school ball cry-baby Tony Hunt.

Almost all of these stories involve someone with a heightened entitlement mentality.

Not all such stories are unworthy of reporting. Consider the account in this newspaper recently regarding the Avondale College ball. The school wants to prevent pupils attending whose parents haven’t paid the annual “donation” of $175, despite paying $110 for the ball ticket.

The Herald ran a photo of a Mr Tony Hunt and his crestfallen daughter. “This is extortion,” Mr Hunt complained. 

In response, the board of trustees chairman correctly pointed out that the ball was an extra-curricular activity, thus they could set their own terms but “in the case of hardship the school would come to the party”.

The account did not detail Mr Hunt’s financial circumstances; still, one questions his priorities if he forks out $110 for a ball ticket but won’t chip in a tax-deductible mere $3.50 a week to aid his daughter’s education, as the parents of all but three of the college’s 2700 pupils have done.

State schools are substantially funded by the wider taxpaying community but across the land parents chip in a further $100 million annually in donations. But not Mr Hunt, because in his mind he is entitled to an education for his daughter at everyone else’s expense and to expect him to contribute is extortion.

How have we descended to this situation where so many citizens feel no moral qualms in living off their fellow citizens’ toil? Our welfare society’s excesses are morally bankrupt and we all know it.

 


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  • Whafe

    Never a truer word spoken……..
    This mentality in NZ is going to be a force to be reckoned with… It is destroying the moral fibre of society…. Thank you to the Pinko’s…….

  • Col

    Yep, giving and not receiving anything in return, is becoming the normal for us taxpayers.
    Why would you want to work if you get the dole, you never had that much money before, and yes they know how to live on it very well, just keep screwing the system.
    I feel sorry for this guys daughter as she may end up like him, and as you have noted in this story from Bob, they are the first to moan if it aren’t going there way, so go and get Fracking and pay the fees idiot.

    • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

      Col, it seems that you’re the idiot, these ‘fees’ you mention are in fact only voluntary donations – the difference is obviously lost on you, lol.

      • Col

        I know that you idiot, but like you, everyone wants a free ride, you don’t seem to get it do you. If the guy had problems paying because of income or what ever, they let it go, but I assume assholes like you still think you should get it for free, now Frack off to your hole.
        ps have a nice day.

        • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

          Explain to me how my 2 children at high school are getting a ‘free ride’ when it’s me, who has stumped up over 50k in taxes last financial year, which in effect is a payment I have already made to fund my children’s education? It’s high income earners such as myself who are in effect subsidising families on lower incomes – and now you expect me to pay even more?

          Ps, your attempts to put me in my place with vulgar language have failed, and yes, I am having a nice day thanks – just got some welcome sun after going for a long walk.

          • Col

            You may pay the tax of $50k, and now you are happy to send your kids too school and you do not give a donation?
            My mother who would be lucky to have sixpence in her pocket, still did the right thing ( she was a proud person) and paid her way.
            If you say I m and idiot I may well be, but then if your paying $50k in tax I reckon you should get a good accountant, the reason I say this, he would have told you it would show on your tax return, but your such a smart ass you don’t listen to others, so you enjoy your walk and the sun because in your eyes you paid your tax and that is that, I just hope your two children don’t grow up too be like you.
            ps don’t get sunburnt, bright spark!!!!

          • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

            Col, I have a good accountant thanks , and he certainly maximises the return I get from my rental property. It appears from your previous post that you think you actually ‘make’ on the deal re your tax return if you make a donation? Of course this is incorrect as you only get about a third of the donation back. Yes I am VERY happy to send my children to (not too as you incorrectly spell) school in the knowledge that my taxes have well and truly paid for their education already, without any further ‘donation’. You keep making incorrect assumptions too with regards to not listening to others, lol. By listening to others I am in a far better financial position than you it seems. I think you listen to what other people have to say for sure, but the problem with you I suspect, is that you just don’t understand what you are being told. 2 children? I have 3, but then you yet again made an incorrect assumption. Just because I have previously stated that I have 2 children at high school, doesn’t mean I don’t have others, now does it, lol. And sorry to burst your ‘abuse bubble’ but I don’t give a toss what you think about whether my 3 children should grow up to be like me or not – as if your opinion is worth much, lol. Thanks for your concern re getting sunburnt – I was very careful.

          • Col

            Still think you should see a good accountant.
            Have a guess what happen today when I went for a walk, no bull shit, found a $10 dollar note, and the next person was a young kid about 8 years old, and I said I will give that money to the next person who came along, I gave it to the kid and he said thank you and started to cry, he said he dropped it and his mum told him to look for it or he would not get to go and see his father.
            Yep I m a sucker gave him $20 and said have a good time with the old man. I think you made me do that. He had a great smile though.

          • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

            Nice story Col.

            Like I said in my previous post, I have a good accountant.

          • Col

            Don’t think so?
            I have the same one, over 20 years now.
            I reckon you pay too much tax, but then again your real estate may be clean and tidy, I asked my accountant tonight and told him about you and he said you should be buying more property and paying less tax.

  • DoomAndGloom

    Mr Jones really says it like it is, unfortunately views like his we only see in the back of the paper in opinion sections, not splashed over the front page like the pointless “news” he complains about.

  • JeffDaRef

    I wouldnt stick up for this guy being a crybaby but would rather see schools do away with the “donation” farce.
    If theres a ball, the attendees pay for it. An unfunded school trip or activity – either cough up for it or tell the school to find cheaper ways to teach.
    In this instance the school should have had a donation payer and non-payer ticket price rather than ban her altogether.
    If I were a parent of a student too young to attend the ball I dont reckon I’d be too impressed knowing my “donation” was subsidising the ball.

    • Cadwallader

      Disagree: The payment is labelled a “donation” to benefit those who pay it by ensuring it is tax deductible! Where’s the farce?

      • Jonathan Pull

        By not allowing people to attend because they haven’t paid “donations”.
        A donation is out of charity and can’t be forced. To say you didn’t pay the donation so you can’t go is a crock of shit, all they’re doing is forcing a donation with consequences.
        If they want people to pay call it a fee by all means and if they still whinge they can fuck off but until then a donation is a charitable offering not an enforceable fee.

        • Travis Poulson

          Stiff shit, a school ball isn’t part of education, and if she can’t go because daddy is too much of a cunt to front up with the cash whether you call it a donation or a ball entry fee for an extra-curricular activity then it is just sad case of entitlement. He said so himself he could afford it, but was complaining out of (yawn) principle.

          • Bunswalla

            But Trav if a school ball isn’t part of education, and the school donation is for education, then why are the two connected? It’s clear the father is a fuckwit by his actions: giving her a stupid name, deciding to be a cunt about the donation, and going to the press to whinge.

            Why the poor girl should be disadvantaged doesn’t make sense to me. The school seems to have decided to take some of the donation money and subsidise non-education activities – they should stop that immediately and set the ticket prices to cover their costs.

            I can’t believe $110 isn’t enough for the ball anyway – FFS the school roll is 2,600 so assume 300 or 400 Yr 13s and at least 400 Yr 12s. Even assuming only 500 of them go, plus partners, that’s over a hundred grand – you can put on a rocking event for half of that.

          • Dave

            the school is putting the ball on, the funds are channelled through their books, they are responsible. The ball is not compulsory and they can ban who they want. cost, its reasonable and in my experience in line with other schools. from memory Rangi college was $160 several years ago. then don’t forget, the individual costs, dress (allow min of $200) shoes, accessories, hair, limo, and the costs get to around $500……..

            The only one disadvantaging the poor girl is here dad, and also the Media for splashing her photo all over NZ, identifying her as the Belle who isn’t going to the ball.

          • Jonathan Pull

            So its ok for the school to sell her a ticket knowing full well that her father hasnt paid the OPTIONAL donation but will still take their monet for a ball ticket. Why did they sell them the ticket in the first place knowing that the donation wasn’t paid.

            She didn’t break any rules, they banning her because her father didnt pay an OPTIONAL fee. That is fucking moronic.
            Were it a compulsory fee and he was late paying it or didn’t pay it then fine, Id agree with you but a donation is optional, why is that so hard for people to understand.

          • Dave

            Jonathan, every student knows the rules, donations, fees etc MUST be paid prior to going to the Ball, and the parents are regularly informed. Lets not forget the dad had the power to fix this instantly by paying the fees, and for sure the school would have likely worked something out with him if he could have paid some of it.

          • Jonathan Pull

            SO your accepting that not paying a donation has consequences?
            Come on, fess I can whole heartedly agree with, whilst education is subsidized we need to make a contribution to our child education, we do this through fees.
            If I feel charitable then I will pay the donation but to imply the a donation and fees are the same thing is crazy because they clearly aren’t.
            Fees must be paid before a ball I agree and the fees in this case were pain, penalizing someone for not making a donation takes the charity out of it and makes a mockery of donations (although lets face it, the only reason people donate today is because its tax deductible, yeah REAL charitable).
            Other wise its just tax/fees, call in any name you want by stealth and we all know how WO dislikes stealth taxes.

          • Jonathan Pull

            Bullshit it is.
            He brought her the ticket, she had every right to enter that ball, she (her father) had paid for the ticket.
            The school are being the entitled cunts thinking that everyone NEEDS to pay the donation.
            News flash morons, if you call it a donation some people won’t pay it.
            Yeah he could afford to pay it but he didnt, big deal, certain people in society could afford to pay more taxes but they dont. Self entitled wankers that they are.
            Funny how the argument falls over so easily.

          • In Vino Veritas

            JP, the school “donation” pays for activities outside the curriculum. If the donation isnt paid, children can be prevented from attending non cirriculum activities. These activities are arranged by schools to broaden the learning of children. The ball is outside curriculum. The fact that the girl purchased the ticket is completely irrelevant (also, the ticket sellers probably didnt know her father hadn’t paid the “donation”). Her father has refused to pay the “donation” required to attend extra cirrcular activities, the daughter is therefore prevented from attending. It would be surprising if the school did not refund her ticket.
            Any parent with a child at school knows these rules, if they don’t, they are thick. The father is a whinging bludger.

          • Jonathan Pull

            So it’s not a donation. it’s fees by stealth and if your not charitable your punished. Seems odd that you think every Parent should know this.my school fees were paid in full. no donations and I still went to my school ball at the time.
            Schools are just being deceiving by calling it donation

          • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

            Jonathan, how can you be so ignorant about the correct usage of ‘your’ and ‘you’re’? This is basic stuff mate.

          • Refn8tor

            That’s the education you get when you don’t pay the donation …

          • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

            What are you talking about? My children get the same education as all of their classmates, regardless of donation payment or not.

          • Jonathan Pull

            Crawled out of the gutter for a little swipe there I see.
            How about a constructive or even half decent comment based on the topic.
            I guess your a product of your schooling, shows in your lack of thinking.

          • Refn8tor

            Says Mr. Ad Hom himself. By the way, it’s “I guess you’re a product of your schooling”. It’s all in the way you hold your apostrophe.

          • Jonathan Pull

            Spelling has never and probably will never be my strong point.
            I aim at least to coherently get my point across or at least voiced.

          • Col

            I knew what you meant, anyway we pay our way, even though our English is not up too his standard, I think he is a loser if he pays 50k tax a year he needs a new accountant, to tell him school fees are tax detectable lol.
            I think he lives in lal lal land?

          • In Vino Veritas

            JP, there is no stealth, and no deception, if you want your kids to be involved in activities outside the curriculum, you pay. Simple. Every parent at the schools my kids attend know how it works. If there is a trip to the planetarium coming up, if you’ve paid your “donation”, your kid gets to go, else they stay in school doing whatever lesson.

          • Jonathan Pull

            Sorry but I just dislike the wording. Im being pedantic and I know it and I do apologize but a donation is not a donation if it is coerced by consequences.
            If they need more money to cover the cost of schooling then ask for it instead of calling it a “donation” when its clearly not.
            School trips that I attended were always paid for at the cost of my parents, donations never came into it.
            Extra curricular activities should be met at the cost of the parent as this ball was.
            Anything inside the scope of day to day education should be covered by FEES and if fees aren’t enough then they need to ask for more from the parents directly.
            Just because people understand how it works doesn’t make it any more acceptable.

          • In Vino Veritas

            And therein lies the taxation argument. School fees are not tax deductible, but donations are, thereby giving some of the “donation” back to the parent at the end of the year, an amount dependant on which tax rate the parent is on. Having been on a school board, I have had parents speak to me about this on a good few occasions. Bottom line is, Government does not fund non-curriculum activities. Schools have tried to get the best outcome for their students and their parents. Not paying the “donation” just means your kids don’t get to do some fun things. Though many schools do turn a blind eye (much to the disgust of some parents, including me, who feel they are subsidising other kids).

          • Jonathan Pull

            I can see and understand your point but in relation to the issue at hand, being the school ball, no one else was funding this, a ticket price was assessed by the school and set, the father paid the price so a donation would have been null and void. He paid for the price of entry to the ball which was set over and above the donation.

          • In Vino Veritas

            Extra cirricular events are paid for in the main, by the “donation”. The ball ticket is “in addition to”.

        • Cadwallader

          Argue that with the IRD.

      • JeffDaRef

        so your post has just proved it a farce – if not for it being deductible, why else call it a “donation”??? if you are then going to ban non-payers from the ball, surely it is a fee??
        so why not just a “donation payer” and “non-payer” cost for the ball??
        they should not ban her altogether…

    • peterwn

      This ‘farce’ has been around for at least 60 years, with a small minority wailing and gnashing their teeth each year. The reality is stark – high decile schools get far less in support grants per pupil than low decile schools, and the high decile schools need to make this up somehow. So boards, parents’ associations, old boys associations and almost all parents are right behind raising this extra money. If parents do not like paying – they can always send their kids to a school with lower or nil donations. There are plenty of others who would give their eye teeth to get into Auckland Grammar, Wellington College etc and pay these donations.

  • Rangi

    Sorry Whale – just re-read the article, Jones does not mention either Claire Nathan or her tatoo, just in case you wanted to fix your opening :)

    • Ronnie Chow

      Sorry for that . It’s just that the whining from the left has become a blur .

      • Rangi

        Only if you have a problem with accuracy…

    • Cadwallader

      It is in the earlier post.

      • Rangi

        What earlier post? I read the print version too, no mention of tatts Im afraid.

    • Dave

      Rangi, Perhaps if Bob reads this he will post a reply on Claire for you, my guess, her tatt, remove it or cover it. Oh, how would i go getting a job at your local marae Rangi ??? I dont have any tatts, so surely i qualify, but im a WMF.

      • Hazards001

        A working male farmer?

        • Dave

          Hone’s version of a WFM, he doesn’t seem to like that four letter word…… Work! :)

          • Hazards001

            lmao…well said!

      • Rangi

        There you go again you fucking fool! An obviously helpful observation turned into racial commentary by a shit eating bottom feeder who churns out what he eats.

        Do you seriously want this to be the quality of your posts?

  • Michael

    Bob Jones for President/King.

    Seriously, this guy is a national treasure – why isn’t he Sir Bob Jones ONZ KB

    • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

      Why isn’t he a knight? Lol, Wife bashers don’t get knighthoods, you should know that.

      • Michael

        He is a Knight, has been since 1989.

        • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

          Yes Michael, he is a knight, but a VERY undeserved one. If you only knew half the things that I know about this violent and abusive thug. He has 2 convictions for assault, but should have many more for his past deeds, not least the violence he inflicted on his ex-wife Anne over a number of years – bet you didn’t know that did you?

          • Dave

            Yes he has convictions, so F…. what, apart form those, which i can forgive (not saying everyone should, but I do) he is a top bloke. Loved his line with one assult, where he was fined, and asked if he could pay double, ………. so he could hit him again!!

            Im with Michael, Bob Jones for President!!

          • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

            Interesting that you would call a wife-basher a ‘top-bloke’.

  • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

    I paid over 50k in tax last financial year. I certainly do more than my fair share of ‘payment’ to the government to educate the 2 children that I still have at high school. Damned if I’m going to pay anymore in the form of a ‘donation’.

    • Dumrse

      Whip de fucking dooo

      • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

        How nice of you to add absolutely nothing useful to the debate, but at least we know to disregard anything you have to say, lol.

  • Col

    If MR Hunt had a problem, I am sure he would have got a ticket to the ball, but I assume and only assume he is a shit bag and treats the school badly, so what goes around comes around, here again I feel sorry for the girl?

  • flashman

    I wonder if Mr Hunt is starting to regret going to the media. He’s riding the tiger now.

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