John Key was right, Wellington is stuffed

Looks like John Key was right about Wellington. It is pretty stuffed today.

Wellington

Many schools across Wellington are closing amid safety concerns as a wicked storm continues to smash the region.

The storm that rolled up the country yesterday – blanketing parts of the South Island in near-record levels of snow – smashed the lower North Island overnight. Emergency operation centres in Christchurch and Auckland were diverted to deal with Wellington’s woes.  

At its peak, winds gusting up to 200kmh damaged buildings and tore trees from the ground. Lashing rain caused surface flooding and, at times, up to 30,000 residents were without power. Conditions were so treacherous that some council and power companies stopped their workers from carrying out repairs.

This morning, the weather continues to play havoc with transport links around the Wellington region, with train, ferry, air and bus travel all hit. Dozens of mainly primary schools have closed for the day. Power remains out for up to 28,000 households.

The rail line between Petone and Wellington is closed – so train services between the Hutt Valley and Wellington have been cancelled until further notice. The line between Waikanae and Paekakariki is also closed, with signal problems likely to cause delays between Porirua and Wellington.

How’s that public transport working out for ya?

All school bus routes have been cancelled this morning, a NZ Bus spokeswoman said. Commuter buses are not travelling into Eastbourne or Wellington’s south coast and, with Wellington’s trolley bus network hit by power cuts, serious delays are expected.

All ferries and flights to and from Wellington are cancelled. The Interislander ferry Kaitaki remained sheltering in Wellington Harbour this morning, after breaking its moorings last night.

Wellington Region Civil Defence controller Bruce Pepperell said all highways in the region were open – but conditions were still marginal and extreme care would be needed by motorists.

 


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  • blokeintakapuna

    Too much Global Warming!
    Signed,
    Cook Island’s UN representative on Climate Change…

  • johnbronkhorst

    Is this photo a euphemism for the labour /greens public transport policies….Supported by fresh air?

  • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    My aunty Celia Waste Brown is planning to build mono rail for Wellington…the mono rail infrastructure would have been transported to Auckland overnight by the wind….

    • johnbronkhorst

      As much as, at the time, I believed my house wasn’t built by a builder. But a cack handed ballerina. It is still intact!
      As for a monorail, it will rust away due to lack of use and the powdered iron oxide remaining will be blown all over the North Island.

    • Droit

      Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook have monorails and by gum it’s put them on the map!

      • Tiberius

        But what about us brain dead slobs?

        • M3N78L

          you’ll be given cushy jobs!

      • Bunswalla

        Sydney has one going very cheap as well! Last rides this week or last, then off to Springfield in time for Homer to finish his driver training.

    • Dave

      There is a good Monorail system, tracks and all for sale in Sydney SCS, enough track to run from Wellington Railway to Willis street!! Am sure Cecilia can hop on her bike and go have a look at it. From memory it closes next weekend! It has been a great tourist attraction for Sydney

      • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

        Yes, I have gone in that many times! May be I can send a Greenie to check out the price!?!? After all we will be paying by printed money in sacks…

    • Steve (North Shore)

      We don’t want a monorail or any rail. Tell your good aunty to have sex and travel.
      Hang on – want to trade a bridge?

  • TheWhiskeyShow

    Still better than Aucklands public transport… even like this

    • Guest

      Hmmm not better, but the same net result today – nothing seems to be going!

    • andrew carrot

      I note that Wellington’s rail signalling system is fucked again. A little bit of wind and salt-spray and she’s a goner. So even if the tracks worked (and if you’re in the Hutt, they won’t work for some time), the green lights wouldn’t. And Auckland’s signalling system is run out of Wellington. Yay.

  • unsol

    “How’s that public transport working out for ya?” WO you seem gleeful about Wellington being hit hard by a storm & that the public transport is down for the day…..at least it has a fairly useful transport system & that any woes are due to more nature rather than the sheer incompetence we see in Auckland eh.

    • philbest

      It’s a systemic drag on the region anyway. It costs as much anyway as all riders just using a car instead, and the difference between that cost and the cost of a ticket lands on ratepayers and taxpayers. There is also all sorts of dishonest stuff going on with cross subsidies from bus riders, eg it costs as much for someone from low socio-economic Taita to catch a bus to Lower Hutt shopping precinct as it does to catch a train 5 times further to the Wgtn CBD.

      This whole system is a shameless racket feathering the nests of Wgtn CBD property owners.

      http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/06/houston.html#comment-1160382

      • Guest

        “It costs as much anyway as all riders just using a car instead and the difference between that cost and the cost of a ticket lands on ratepayers and taxpayers”

        Yet those same people still use the public transport…..so perhaps all things considered it is still the most convenient & financially viable way to get to work when you take into account parking, rego & WOF plus outlay for second car? Petrol alone is about $3450 p/a (2.13 p/l x 45 x 3 fills p/m) for your average 45 litre car on 91 plus servicing costs & insurance ($800-1000 depending on value of car & whether you have 3rd party). Contrast that to the monthly pass which is about $3360 p/a . If you add the portion of rates to that, will it cost more to use a bus or train than to drive & park a car (an extra $2500 or so unless your work offers free parking)? Cost more than approx $7000 p/a per person/car?

        Personally – don’t care. We don’t use public transport as it can’t ever fit in with our lifestyle (work or otherwise) & we have free parking :-)

        • TomTom

          Lol there’s no point in arguing such things on here. People on here are not keen to allow others to have the choice of travel (or where/how they want to live either) and are also blind to the fact that cars cost a zillion as well and should be thankful that we aren’t tolled to use the roads.

          Wouldn’t it be fun though, to try and build a big enough motorway into Wellington and enough carparks to handle all those cars to get rid of public transport?!?!

          • James

            I have no problems with people using public transport and public transport options being available. The only thing that I ask is that the users pay for the costs of operating their transport choices.
            If something requires a subsidy from the pockets of people who don’t use it then it is not worth doing.

          • philbest

            Absolutely; subsidies to commuter rail is something like 75% plus. “Subsidies” to car drivers – 5%? No-one pays for THEIR vehicles, insurance, repairs, fuel, etc etc. One of the most absurd arguments is that “roads are subsidised 75%, therefore public transport should be too”. Who needs further explanation of the invalidity of this? Yet it prevails in public perceptions.

          • Guest

            “If something requires a subsidy from the pockets of people who don’t use it then it is not worth doing”

            Well since we’re dreaming….I would like to see this little mantra extended to the 90% of NZers who will never pay sufficient tax to cover their own birth in a public hospital, education (even uni is subsidised), health costs, infrastructure, WFF…you name it let alone enough to cover the cost of their future children as well (until they are able to work themselves).

            It’s the way of the civilised world James. People will always pay for things they do not get to use.

            Public transport is far better than paying for people who have kids they can’t afford – whether beneficiaries or working.

          • TomTom

            Public transport also allows those who are poorer to afford to travel to work and effectively better themselves. How are we going to get people off the dole if they can’t even fucking travel to work?

          • Guest

            But they always have cars….

            Re “How are we going to get people off the dole” – we aren’t. It’s their problem. Turn off the welfare tap & they’d find work pretty quickly.

          • TomTom

            Meh, too fucking true. I fucking hate that these lazy idiots have cars and I don’t. I work every fucking hours that I can fucking bludge off relatives (to clean offices) and my employer. I use the bus to get to work cos otherwise it’s a two hour walk. All the while doing a shitload of study.

            Jesus christ.

          • unsol

            I hear you – as I student I walked or biked everywhere including post late night shifts at my work. As did my friends. The only ones who had cars were the ones who were the non students working full time. It pays off though – you get educated & learn good work ethic which means by the time you finish & get the grad wage you are earning more money than they will ever have. I found this helps ease the resentment of paying the taxes that they get to benefit from. End of the day they are never going to come out on top. Sad for them, but it is proof that life is what you make it. :)

          • TomTom

            Can I just say – I don’t remember writing that… got a little bit trashed and trashy…. :)

          • unsol

            :-)

          • James

            Ah that would be lovely – everybody pays for what they use and we can get rid of socialism once and for all.
            And I would argue that we stop paying for people to have kids they can’t afford and public transport.
            In terms of education, health costs etc I think that pretty much everybody uses both of these. OK, maybe not to the same extent but we all use them and having them available to us is a saving anyway (if they weren’t available then we would be paying more in insurance / repayment of education loans).
            Public transport on the other hand provides no discernible savings through it “just being there”. It is just a further cost to us through subsidy.

          • Guest

            Yes complete user pays would be great. Sadly we are generations away from even getting close to wanting this as a a society – few seem to believe that one must work for what they want in life.

            I don’t like buses but I like trains. Trains are cool. Buses – always awful & often terrible bus routes that make the snob in me flinch.

            Plus had a few bad experiences when flatting many moons ago – crazy men attempting to follow me home, trying to kiss me on the bus etc (bus driver kindly screeched to a holt & told him to get off).

          • TomTom

            The problem is that roads require a subsidy from all of us, and yet we don’t use it evenly do we? If you had a busway carrying the same number of people as a motorway – which would cost the taxpayer less?

          • Guest

            A subsidy that not everyone pays for :-)

          • James

            Roads don’t require a subsidy – have you seen the amount of tax, GST etc that is charged in every litre of petrol? Subsidy my arse.

          • Guest

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          • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

            That’s to fund the transport agency and the ministry of womens’ affairs.

          • Hazards001

            Have you heard of fuel taxes? If the money that was taken from fuel and road user charges was invested in roading in NZ we would have 4 lane motorways from the Cape to Bluff including an 11k bridge in the middle.

            Most of the money goes into the consolidated slush fund and has for years. Give it back. Then go bleating about your road subsidies. The people doing the use are now and always have paid for them. They just never get what they paid for!

          • philbest

            Wellington CBD has 32% share of regional employment. The international average is more like 15%.

            The 2 corridor urban form and the commuter rail subsidies are just delivering monopoly rents to CBD land owners, that is all.

          • Mr_Blobby

            Its called long term planning. Every Council has demonstrated over the last, for ever. That they have no idea how to plan. And have effectively planned to fail, by not requiring developers to provide sufficient parking for there buildings and have failed to predict and manage traffic flows.

          • TomTom

            Lol oh fuck off. You would have literally most of the city centre full of multiple stories car parking. About 15,000 people take the train into Wellington each work day – where are you going to park all those cars (within walking distance of their work!)?!

          • Mr_Blobby

            It is pretty obvious from a geographical point of view that Wellington is not suitable for purpose.

            I would relocate the center of Government closer to Auckland say somewhere south of the Bombay hills and use south Auckland and Hamilton as the dormitory suburbs for the workers.

            Part of the planning process for a building should be access and sufficient parking.

          • unsol

            “I would relocate the center of Government closer to Auckland say somewhere south of the Bombay hills and use south Auckland and Hamilton as the dormitory suburbs for the workers”

            Right & where would everyone live? The cost of housing in Auckland means that people are having to do the same as what they do in Wellington – live further out & commute. Hence why Auckland traffic is a complete nightmare.

            Difference being that the house prices for Auckland region are pretty on par with Wellington Central!

            So long term your plan would be come futile as Auckland is becoming so unaffordable that businesses will relocate…..maybe back down to Wellington or perhaps even further south….Invercargill!

          • Mr_Blobby

            Hamilton is 1. cheaper than Auckland and 2. there is no shortage of land around meremere, huntly and north Hamilton.

            Located next to state highway one, easy driving to Auckland, Airport or Hamilton. Probably cheaper to add an extra lane to the state highway than to build your gully way.

          • Guest

            The Tron….no way hosea. Good grief! At least Auckland has some pretty parts!!!

          • Hazards001

            I’d like to relocate most of the Government to somewhere between Wellington and Picton!

          • TomTom

            If only…. if fucking onlyyyyy….

          • Polish Pride

            and I was pretty sure there was enough hot air in Auckland already :)

          • Mr_Blobby

            It will be good when you need a visa to come north of the bombays.

          • Guest

            “Lol there’s no point in arguing such things on here”

            There’s actually no point in arguing anything on here – everyone’s a whinger & no one is a doer. If they were they wouldn’t have time to blog! :-)

            But it is good fun. Hmmmm I would prefer really efficient public transport so commuters never have to use cars…..the trains are a great treat in the school holidays for us!!!

          • Hazards001

            There’s actually no point in arguing anything on here – everyone’s a
            whinger & no one is a doer. If they were they wouldn’t have time to
            blog! :-)

            Guess that’s why I don’t get till around 7pm…too busy whinging..how ’bout you?

          • Guest

            I’m a multitasking female so I can do everything at the same time!

            So yes you’re still a whinger…..people who comment on blogs are not the people creating/implementing the change. Hence why the Opposition spend so much time on social media! It’s called uncommitted complaining :-)

          • Hazards001

            Multi tasking is woman speak for “Nothings Finished!”

          • andrew carrot

            I’d like to point out that the majority of Wellington’s transport system, private or otherwise, runs for some distance above and along the National Fault Line. One good shake and the city’s cut off from the rest of NZ. May I suggest that everybody in Auckland jump up and down at 4pm today; we may start something we won’t regret.

          • Guest

            Good idea. Then we might finally see government infrastructure funds being put somewhere other than Auckland’s bottomless pit of incompetence & poor planning :-)

          • andrew carrot

            Len can ask for it all he likes, but if Central doesn’t pay Len doesn’t play. Prudence required at both ends.

          • pukakidon

            It is the Auckland Tall Poppy hateful syndrome. Deride anywhere that is better to live. I was unfortunately born in the place and lived there for many years. I just cant stand the backwardness and the argumentative nature of the people. They would scream if their arses where on fire and I pissed on them to put them out.

    • pukakidon

      Yes you are right it is a typical trait of the Aucklander of the day. Scream like a stuck pig when they need the rest of the country to pay for their roads. Deride anyone such as those in Christchurch and Wellington after a disaster. I am afraid with such an in pouring of immigrants the old generous and caring trait of the NZer is being bred out. What a dung heap Auckland is becoming.

      They might generate the greatest in taxes but they are also the home of the generalationalised bludger who also sucks the life out of the country..

  • philbest

    Wellington is possibly the world’s ultimate example of the power of urban planners to stuff up a city-region economically and socio-economically. The 2-corridor model is probably the least efficient possible model for an urban economy. It is the ultimate example of “tail wags dog” – the whole economy and its society must order itself around a couple of train tracks.

    The result is unaffordable housing, people “priced out” further and further along the corridors, world’s worst traffic congestion for a city-region of this population, and much longer average travel times. “Mode shift” to public transport is never sufficient to compensate for these losses in systemic efficiency, and the marginal cost of any mode shift that occurs is literally hundreds of times as expensive as other means of mitigating resource consumption or emissions.

    • Sthn.Jeff

      To be fair, the “two corridor Model” is as much a result of the regions geography rather than anything planners have done

      • philbest

        We shouldn’t assume that. There is no essential reason that the Hutt Valley and Tawa/Porirua/Kapiti Coast could not be connected and have a bit of development in the gaps. The geographic difficulties are really no different to those involved in developing Karori/Kelburn/MtVic etc. Our ancestors had a lot less technology and capital but they had a “can do” attitude, which seems to be the main thing.

    • johnbronkhorst

      build transmission gully and make it a 3 corridor model!
      Look to a road tunnel through the Rimutaka’s!
      Then when you have maximised the roading potential, build high speed rail in sections, Wgtn to Petone, Petone to Upper Hutt , Upper Hutt to Masterton,

      • Guest

        You’ve thought of it all – put yourself forward & knock the greenie off her perch!

      • MarkF

        There will be a spare tunnel boring machine in Auckland in a few years time. Put it to good use and bore through the Rimutakas, That would make a huge difference.

        • TomTom

          Lol TBMs are fascinating machines. They can’t really be “reused” in a sense. You’d have to refurbish the entire thing to such a cost that you may as well buy a brand new one.

      • philbest

        An urban economy works best as an amorphous “blob” as interconnected as possible within itself. This is why I would argue for turning the “V” into something closer to a solid triangle, rather than adding corridors or lengthening the existing ones. No reason the Hutt Valley can’t be connected to Tawa/Porirua/Kapiti just like Karori or the Eastern suburbs are connected to Wellington. Our ancestors were capable of the roads, tunnels and bridges even without our technology and capital.
        But yes, connection to the rest of the country justifies Transmission Gulley and a Rimutuka road tunnel. And “new towns” are justifiable almost anywhere.

        • Guest

          “No reason the Hutt Valley can’t be connected to Tawa/Porirua/Kapiti”

          It is – it’s called the Haywards. Or you can get on your bicycle…..Hutt Valley round trip via the akas is 125km. Easy riding too.

          • philbest

            You are perhaps being witty?

            My full sentence:

            “……No reason the Hutt Valley can’t be connected to Tawa/Porirua/Kapiti just like Karori or the Eastern suburbs are connected to Wellington…..”

            That is, quite a bit more intensely connected than the “connection” Hayward’s Hill road represents………
            And my context was “filling in” the “V” with development. To refine my argument, I would endorse low density, “splatter” development. This is what happens anyway in relatively free land markets.
            Keep the peaks as parks/green belt just like in Wgtn city. Tunnel through them further down.
            There is land within the “V” for decades of urban growth, even at low density. Look on Google Earth. There’s literally more space than there is existing built-out area.

          • Guest

            Yes I was teasing

            I hope you have shared your plans with those who can actually do something about it!

          • philbest

            Sorry for being a bit slow – nice one…..!

            Yes, the powers that be know of my “ideas”. The root problem is that that commuter rail system is sacred. Breaking out of the 2-corridor planning model would be the doom of the commuter rail system (it could be kept going for some time at greater and greater cost but is already breaking the region’s budgets in spite of a cool $1 billion contribution from central government over the last decade and a bit). It would also be the doom of the Wgtn CBD property investors big rent-seeking racket.
            A fully bus-based system would be heaps cheaper and could follow the land market, rather than the land market being expected to follow the transport planners. Notice the recent good news that Celia’s light rail proposals have been canned now due to cost fully 3 times as great as bus alternatives – and this does not even reflect that the buses can go anywhere as well as serving the “spine” that light rail was supposed to.
            The problem is not that I cannot make this understood – the problem is that the powers that be know all this only too well – and they know what side their bread is buttered on. This includes the bureaucracies who know only too well that their jobs and perks depend on the status quo. The fact that even buses are “the enemy” to these people in spite of the fact that buses are still “public transport” and far cheaper than trains, says a lot about the underlying objectives.

          • Guest

            Hmmm interesting. I like the fact that the trains are there….if I need them. And when I have gone on them they are super quick. We used to live up the coast for a few years – never had a problem as a commuter. Even now when I take the odd train I have never had a problem & the new ones are fab. My inlaws used the system for 40 years & overall really rate it. It was great fun gleefully racing past when the traffic came to a halt usually because of yet another crash. Even if there were bus lanes they wouldn’t be immune. So I don’t know, I still think there is a place for the trains. Build TG for sure, but still keep the trains! But I know stuff all about it so opinion probably based more on sentimentality than proper cost vs benefit analysis :-)

          • kehua

            In the 60`s about 40 buses would leave Wainui between 6-00 and 8-00 am then returning between 5-00 and 7-00 pm, most empty out at Woburn and the Units would be full with commuters and school kids, I remember listening to Cassius Clay beating Sonny Liston on a radio and forgot to get off at Woburn ended up in Epuni and walked back to catch the bus home over the Wainui Hill, got back at about 6pm to a bloody good hiding.

          • Guest

            Had to look up Cassius Clay…listening to boxing….that’ll learn ya!

          • kehua

            You lucky young thing you haha.

          • philbest

            Here’s an interesting thing – the GWRC refused to subsidise the “Airport Flyer” proposal (Wgtn Airport to Queensgate Lower Hutt) but the Valley Flyer bus company decided to go ahead anyway and see if potential riders would pay an unsubsidised, cost-covering fare. It has been working fine for years now.
            People will happily pay $15 to use this service. Why can’t people who find commuter rail services so convenient, pay something closer to the true cost of the service? Why is it like an article of religious faith that they should only pay 3 dollars or something and seven dollars or more get gouged out of society as a whole, for each trip?
            It is also starting to get noticed around the world that commuter rail riders are often well above average income earners, so no justifiable social objective is being served by giving them subsidised travel to work. There would even seem to be a growing mismatch between the mobility needs of lower income groups and commuter rail services, which are of course always focused on CBD’s where higher income earners work.
            It would make a lot more sense to charge public transport fares at closer to cost, and give mobility coupons to lower income earners, if social objectives are one of the points of providing the service. But really, the employers of lower income earners in CBD’s should have to pay them more to cover their cost of travel (or more expensive accommodation nearby). Ultimately it comes back to whether CBD property owners should be subsidised or not.
            The vast majority of low income earners do not get to capture the considerable subsidies to mobility at all, and choose (or are even obliged by circumstances) to use a cheap car. A public investment focus on decentralised urban form and road and bus networks is far more equitable, and affordable housing is an absolute game changer, if the urban land rationing system is abandoned.
            There are academic papers that suggest that the natural evolutionary trend in urban economies undistorted by strict planning, is for the urban footprint to grow, households and jobs to “sort” into more and more efficient locations relative to each other, and for the cost of land relative to incomes, to FALL. For example, William Wheaton: “Commuting, Ricardian Rent, and Housing Costs in Cities with Dispersed Employment and Mixed Land Use”. Alex Anas is another author of similar papers.
            I suspect that growth-containment urban planning has the opposite effect – it forces the price of urban land relative to incomes up, forces worse and worse location decisions on households and businesses, and maximises congestion delays.

          • Guest

            Sorry a mere upvote is bad mannered given the depth of your response – but I just don’t know enough to even prompt more info out of you!!! Clearly you have studied the topic at length – I assume you have worked in the area? Me….I have just used the networks occasionally :-)

          • kehua

            Simlple really bulldoze Haywards Hill into Pauatahanui Harbour and Lo and behold land for Africa, easy peasy lol.

          • Dave

            Nah, plenty of land available, look at how Whitby alone has developed over the years. Then Papokowhai, the newer Aotea heights subdivision, and there is much more land there, no need to bulldoze the hill into the harbour, its a pretty Little area.

          • Dave

            Good luck riding round there today unsol, if one is not blown off their bike, the extremities of the body would be frozen off!!

            Commuters have travelled over Haywards for many years, a great drive especially in light traffic, but the drive around the Pauatahinui inlet is Fan-F..cking-Tastic in a sports car. Negative chamber corners, no safety barrier!!

          • Guest

            On my bicycle? That’d make me a super mum for sure! :-) Nah that’s what cars are for….feel sorry for hubby as he gets no escape from weather….while I’m cosied up at home with a coffee & fire procrastinating from my duties! Somehow he is still convinced he has a great deal haha!

            Pautahanui – all the fun has gone now…60km limit + regular cop watch….it’s the road version of communism!

            Hubby has promised me a radar defector for my birthday o thr could all change (fiat HGT = awesome!!!)

          • Dave

            Fiat wow, I had a 124T many years ago, but prefer a real itialian now, like a Guilette, or perhaps a VW R32 amazing Ignore the limit there, cruise past at night, then fast back. I still drive it every 4 to 6 months!!

          • unsol

            VW R32 – great car, but isn’t it German?

            124T – very cool! We had an old BMW 318i which would have been on par with that….mind you I think I prefer the RS2000 in the old school range :-)

            It is hilarious the impact our wee Fiat has – people always think it’s a nana car then when I take off they see me as a target as it is sportier than they anticipated & because I’m a girl….boys are so predictable!

          • Dave

            RS2000 yup, my motor before the 124T was a Cortina highly modified with Lotus gear, and lotus DOHC donk, quicker than a GTHO shaker to the 140KM/h mark, the old heavy V8 couldn’t get off the mark too quickly, and did not like corners. Wasted too much money and time on high performance cars when younger, now just buy standard cars.

            VW, one of the best out of Germany, Audi better in my mind, but not affordable yet!!

            You must be a target for the young males unsol.

  • philbest

    It is all the more disgraceful for Wellington, that capital cities have the lucky advantage of bureaucrats wages being paid by taxpayers all over the country, which is completely “weightless” income into the local economy. If a city can’t prosper from this (look at other capitals around the world) there is something badly wrong with it.

    Dorkland should be running in the opposite policy direction – forget the b—-y train set, build a network of highways that supports decentralisation of travel patterns. Tell the CBD’s crony capitalists to get stuffed.

  • Mr_Blobby

    Careful Whale Boy, you might upset Sir Bob who relies on the Government sector for his rental income in Wellington.

    But yes Wellington is a waste of space and lost relevance as a center for Government over a century ago.

    • Guest

      “Wellington is a waste of space”

      Harsh, man. It’s the arts capital for a start.Yes a lot of businesses have relocated to Auckland, but you’d be surprised & what is made in Wellington & how far it gets to travel – we should know this personally re freight volumes moving in & out of the city. In fact this has probably got to be one of the busiest years yet…and we’ve been super busy for 10 years!

      So no, not dead. Just going through a transition.

      • Mr_Blobby

        Surrounded by sea there is nowhere to grow. Its a bit like building a shopping mall at the end of a dead end road.

        What % of New Zealanders have been to Te papa.

        From a center for Government a waste of space.

        • Guest

          Te Papa sucks. As do all museums! Rather stick nails in my hands. But it gets nearly 600,000 more visitors per year than the Auckland Museum :)

          Yep Wellington is geographically challenged, but it is growing – IT especially is killing it compared to the rest of the country (Minimonos , GreenButton etc).

          You also fail to see that the problematic geography of Wellington is an issue faced by the entire country – growing population, narrow islands = everything must go up (high rises) or go overseas. Or build buildings on stilts in the sea. Like the Maldives. Only not as pretty.

        • Mediaan

          Te Papa is comparable to how Disneyland would be if designed by a student of Andy Warhol. A national embarrassment, if one is looking for an expression of New Zealand history and culture.

          But. That wasn’t why it was built. Our money, someone else’s plans.

      • James

        I don’t think that being “the arts capital” and being “a waste of space” are mutually exclusive. In fact I think that there may be a real positive correlation between the two!

        • Mr_Blobby

          Well put. Arty farty that one unsol.

        • Guest

          Hmmmm :-)

      • Dave

        But, take way the industry that is government, and 90% of wellington dies with it.

  • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    Bros – None of you would be laughing when Finance Minister Hippie Norman imposes the congestion charging system for Wellington, Auckland, Christchurch and Dunedin during peak hours. Your car/motorbike will be charged $10 during 7:00 AM – 10:00 AM to enter the city and then $5 between 4:00 PM – 7:00 PM to exit the city. The revenue gathered will be used for creating green jobs. We are winners folks!! This scheme will be called “Transportation Adjustment Levy” or TAL for short.

    • Mediaan

      I like city congestion charges. Works for Singapore. Why not?

      London introduced a tame version, amid wide wailing and cursing, recently and I haven’t noticed any great damage from it.

  • Steve (North Shore)

    Did the lack of Public Servants not going to work today in Wellywood get noticed by the rest of NZ?
    Doubt it. Have a week off – actually just don’t go to your office. Nobody will notice for ages

  • Johnny T

    Thought Slater might take a potshot at public transport. It works pretty well down this way big fella. Trains should be back up and running for Monday.

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