Not one cent, “new evidence” proves nothing

I see David Bain’s supporters and tame media flunkies reckon some allegedly greasy marks on Robin Bain’s hands “prove” Robin Bain pulled the trigger. What was amazing was the coordinated way that David Fisher managed to file a full story complete with photos from Joe Karam and a couple of quotes seconds after the show aired. The show airs at 8:30pm and his first article based on the show he didn’t watch went online at 9:30pm.

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He then proceeded to mount as robust a defence as he has for the fat german man. All of that is astonishingly perceptive for a man who just watched a show and managed miraculously to get his first story out just seconds after the show finished and then managed to write multiple articles before the print deadline last night. Wow…just awesome.

I listened to Joe Karam on Leighton Smith’s show this morning and found myself yelling at the radio. The man is disingenuous…he talks about the marks as though they are proof Robin Bain pulled the trigger. He glosses over the magazine that miraculously was standing on its end right beside Robin Bain’s cold dead hand. So…did Robin place the magazine on the ground there…on carpet…then stand up and shoot himself so when he landed his hand would come to rest right beside the magazine? Come on think about it…If the magazine was dropped it is impossible for it to land and remain standing on its side…and the chances Robin Bain placed it there and then shot himself so he landed conveniently next to it are ridiculously small.  

I have fired literally hundreds of thousands of rounds from magazine fed firearms, from SLRs to M16s to SMGs, 9MM pistols and so many versions of rim-fire rifles that I have lost count…and in all my years I have never had the marks on my thumbs that Bain supporters and their tame media flunkies claim prove that David didn’t do it.

This is just more smoke and mirrors from Karam and Bain.

This is what you have to believe for Robin Bain to have been the killer done it like Joe Karam would have us believe. The original list was from David Farrar, I have added the “new evidence”.

  1. It was a lucky guess when David Bain told 111 ambulance officer they are all dead, despite later saying he only saw two bodies
  2. Again a lucky guess when DB told police officer they are all dead
  3. The 25 minute gap between DB finding his family dead and calling 111 is in no way connected with trying to wash clothes and removed blood.
  4. The bruise on David’s head and scratches on his chest and graze on his knee – none of which he could explain, were just a coincidence
  5. The lens from his glasses found in Stephen’s room happened weeks ago and he never noticed OR someone else had borrowed the glasses
  6. The lack of fresh injuries on Robin despite the massive struggle with Stephen is just the product of healthy living
  7. David’s finger prints on the gun are from a previous time
  8. David telling a friend he had premonition something bad was going to happen was a genuine psychic experience
  9. Stephen’s blood on David’s clothing was nothing to do with the struggle – OR someone else borrowed his clothes
  10. The lock and key to the rifle being found in David’s room is not relevant as they were obviously placed there
  11. Robin decided to wash David’s green jersey to remove blood and the fibres from jersey found under Steven’s finger nails
  12. David’s bloody palm print on the washing machine was from him checking the bodies
  13. The Ambulance officer was wrong when he said in his opinion Bain was pretending to have a fit
  14. Robin Bain would logically wear gloves to prevent fingerprints despite it being a murder-suicide
  15. Robin Bain didn’t wear gloves as he loaded the magazine…then put on gloves to kill his family, then took them off without smudging the “magazine marks”.
  16. That Robin Bain would type a message on a computer for David telling him he is the only one who deserves to live, instead of writing a note. A hand written note incidentally would have cleared David.
  17. Also that having just shot his family, and knowing David was due home, that Robin would wait 44 seconds for the computer to boot up to leave a message
  18. Robin would decide David deserved to live, but go out of his way to frame him for murder
  19. Robin Bain placed fibres from Davids jersey under Stephen’s finger nails
  20. Robin would finish shooting his family, remove the magazine, place it on the ground carefully on standing upright on its side, then shoot himself so that when his body fell his hand was right beside the magazine which remained standing on its side.
  21. Robin Bain would shoot himself with a gun in the most awkward way possible?
  22. That Robin Bain changed jerseys after he had killed his family and in particular Stephen Bain, washed the jersey, hung it on the line and then change into a brown jersey before killing himself?
  23. That there is a logical reason that David Bain can not account for the injuries on his face, the bruise or the scraped knee, yet knows he did not have them during his paper run.
  24. That Robin Bain put blood on the inside of David’s duvet and on his light switch
  25. That there is an innocent explanation for why David says he put on washing before he discovered the bodies, yet there is a blood print on the washing machine.
  26. That Laniet was being paranoid when she told friends she was scared of David
  27. That the “family meeting” David called the previous night and insisted everyone attended was not a way to make sure everyone would be at home to kill.
  28. That Robin Bain would wear a hat while shooting himself in the head.
  29. That even though David told a relative he hated his father, his father did not know this and deliberately decided David was the only one who deserved to live
  30. That David either imagined hearing Laniet gurgling or she gurgled 20 minutes after death
  31. That Laniet allegations of incent with Robin was true, as was her claims she had given birth three times by the age of 12 and a half.
  32. That Robin Bain managed to kill four family members without a single trace of his blood, skin, or DNA being left at the scene.
  33. That it is a coincidence that on the morning of the murders Bain took his dog onto a property, ensuring he would be noticed to give him an alibi.
  34. That the magazine found balanced on an edge next to Robin was not placed there by David but fell onto its edge from Robin’s arms.
  35. That a sickly Robin Bain managed to overpower his teenage son who put up a furious fight
  36. That Robin Bain went and got the newspaper from outside, despite planning to shoot himself
  37. That Robin Bain did all of the above without taking a piss.

I love the way Joe Karam and David Bain continue to manufacture outrage and malign a dead man. This is just another episode in trying to manipulate a process through the court of public opinion to garner a result that puts money on David Bain’s pockets.


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As much at home writing editorials as being the subject of them, Cam has won awards, including the Canon Media Award for his work on the Len Brown/Bevan Chuang story. When he’s not creating the news, he tends to be in it, with protagonists using the courts, media and social media to deliver financial as well as death threats.

They say that news is something that someone, somewhere, wants kept quiet. Cam Slater doesn’t do quiet and, as a result, he is a polarising, controversial but highly effective journalist who takes no prisoners.

He is fearless in his pursuit of a story.

Love him or loathe him, you can’t ignore him.

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