Saturday general debate

Good morning folks and welcome to the Saturday General Debate. Well as you all know, Cam broke the story yesterday  about the Labour Party’s ‘Man Ban’ policy proposal, which of course every media outlet in the country on tv, print, radio and internet ran with which forced some members within Labour to explain, while others denounced it, and the rest remained strangely silent all  before Shearer even mumbled  uttered  a word.

I’m not entirely sure what the following product is for, but perhaps it might be the answer to some of the blokes in Labour that are worried about their jobs. No such luck for Cosgrove though, he’s already ruled himself out of any such ‘changes’.

As per usual, open debate. Vent your spleens.




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  • Never in the dark…..

    Personally I thought Labour was full of old women. They certainly bleat and complain like a number of them I have known (old women that is)

  • blokeintakapuna

    Why is the game of Hockey discriminatory against South Paws?

  • notrotsky

    It’s a cytotoxic cream for certain superficial skin cancers and keratoses.

    • Travis Poulson

      So this aptly named product should be ideal for removing penises?

      • notrotsky

        Not sure, best way to test the theory would be to cover Trevor Mallard with a great dollop and see if he resigns from parliament.

        • cows4me

          Can’t resign if you are vaporised.

        • blokeinremuera

          Lost his dick years ago.

  • Tamati

    The Efudix cream is for basal cell cancer of the skin…great need to have it surgically removed..

  • Travis Poulson

    No surprises here, Louisa Wall has been the first to publicly come out and support the idea, and Fran O’Sullivan loves it too. Part of me is still hoping her article is a piss-take

    • MarcWills

      I thought it was satire too Travis, but no, it looks like that’s really how she rolls. Amazing.

    • Muffin

      Usually she is the better read on the horrid, but not today

    • cows4me

      I’m quite happy for the women to take over. Be bloody good to lie in bed everyday while they milk the cows do all the farm work etc. Yes the world will be a much better place when women rule, darling………….I’ll have another Tui now.

      • Random66

        I’m cracking up at this image you have of lying in bed all day cows. That is soooo not what your wife probably does all day. All that cooking, cleaning and washing doesn’t get done by itself you know. I’m thinking within two days you would be running towards that cowshed and smiling all the way :-)

        • cows4me

          Yeah you’re so right Random, wife is always working. She helps me if I need help on the farm but usually it’s just in the cowshed or feeding calves. She also works part time at a local engineering firm and there’s the house work and the kids. I think the women coming up with this man ban idea should remember an old saying “be careful what you wish for”.

          • Random66

            Sounds like a great partnership.

          • Tom

            Got yourself a good ‘un then :)

          • cows4me

            Yeah, I’m one of the lucky ones.

  • Elitist Tory

    Roger Moore was the best James Bond.

    • johnbronkhorst

      Sean Connery followed by Daniel Craig.

      • Random66

        Definitely from a females perspective.

      • Travis Poulson

        Yes, no.

    • Kimbo

      George Lazenby?!

      Actually, ‘On Her Majesty’s Secret Service’ was a really good movie. A great villian in Telly Savalas as Blofeld, Diana Rigg as the Bond Girl, and also Joanna Lumley as one of Blofeld’s harem, great settings in Switzerland, great soundtrack courtesy of Louis Armstrong and John Barry (one of his best).

      Compare it to the pile of poos Bond films movies that followed – ‘Diamonds are Forever’ (awful), ‘Live and Let Die’ (ok, but not great), and ‘The Man with the Golden Gun’ (maybe bhe worst of all time) and OHMSS is impressive.

      Was Lazenby that bad?

      • Elitist Tory

        The Man With The Golden Gun was a great movie – loved the line when Bond says “speak now or forever hold your piece” (whilst pointing a gun at the bloke’s goolies).

        The other funny thing about the movie was the question going around the celebrity ‘jet set’ in the weeks after it came out which was: “is Britt Ekland acting or is she really that dumb?”

        Peter Sellers said she wasn’t acting; Rod Stewart couldn’t make up his mind – so decided to find out.

      • Phill

        One of Lazenby’s early lines in that movie…”I say, this never happened to the other fellow”
        He should have had more bond movies.
        Roger Moore was just cheese.
        Sean Connery was (and still is) all class. (IMHO)

  • johnbronkhorst

    But labour aren’t for divided society……….are they?????

  • thor42

    How can we defend the country against Islam?

    I would *love* to see Parliament pass an act legally defining Islam as an “ideology of hate” (which is exactly what it is). However, given that that is unlikely, *what other steps can be taken?*

    I can think of one possible option. Meet with a local council and do a presentation that summarises Islam and its aims, then see if they would be willing to pass a bylaw banning any buildings that cater for an “ideology of hate”. Local action. Ok – it’s a very long shot, but anyway……

    If they did this and the government objected, then that could actually be a *very useful opening* to get the definition of Islam tested in court – “ideology or religion”. A victory for “its an ideology” would be very powerful.

    Any other ideas as to how to fight Islam here?

    • opusx

      We have already imported this problem under the guise of refugees. It has already become entrenched in our communities. Most Kiwi’s don’t understand we are regarded as infidels in our own country. I can guarantee you now that no good will come of this. Clearly you know this too. Like the UK we will be re-active to the issues that will arise…the opportunity to be preventative has long since passed.

      • thor42

        Yes, agreed.

        Anyway – I think I’ll go ahead with my website idea. I want to put up an easy-to-digest short-and-to-the-point summary of Islam and its aims. If it can even become half as popular as this blog, that’ll be a start.

        Even better – if I can become half as good as Robert Spencer, that would be great.

      • williamabong

        A very simple solution, every time the towel heads talk about moving into an area or building something just carry out the following –

        “In Seville Spain , the local people have found a way to stop the construction of yet another mosque in their town they simply buried a pig on the site and made sure this would be known by the local press.

        The Islamic rules forbid the erecting of a Mosque on “pig soiled ground.” The Muslims had to cancel the project. This land was sold to them by government officials. No protests were needed by the local people, and it worked!”

        • thor42

          Excellent stuff!

          Simple – legal – effective!

          That’s the kind of solution that is REALLY useful!

      • Hazards001

        Actually most kiwis do understand that, they also understand they are despised and pissed on by a number of other cultures too.

    • Elitist Tory

      Most people have no idea about Islam, or what it is, what it advocates – I know you probably know a great deal about it, and that it surprises you that 90% of people do not, but I am serious.
      What you need to do is take 10 things about Islam and put it into a context of day to day life, so the average person can visualise it relating to themselves.
      Then you can start a “Did you know….” campaign.
      (e.g “Did you know Islam wants to ban your family pet?” something everyone can relate to – and provide evidence)
      But a generic “Let’s ban Islam” kinda scares the horses in this PC age – simply because nobody knows why, and it sounds racist.

      • thor42

        Hi E.T. – that’s a *great* idea! I will follow that up when I get the website up and running.

        Simple, informative, 100% factual “sound-bite-like” snippets, each one showing a particular part of Islam.

        Very good post – thanks for your comments there.

      • Pissedoffyouth

        Can we also run a bible 10 facts too?


        #7 You pull of of the missus you’ll die

        “Genesis 38:9-10:
        But Onan knew that the offspring wouldn’t be his own heir, so whenever
        he had sexual relations with his brother’s wife, he would spill his
        semen on the ground to avoid fathering offspring for his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.”

        I dislike Islam immensely but it is a better idea to make all religious nutter-camps drop in numbers, then focus on Islam

        • Elitist Tory

          Why are you telling me? replying to me? it was Thor who was asking – not me.

        • thor42

          Hi pissedoffyouth –

          I *could* do that, but (at least for now) I want to focus on Islam. It is Islam that’s the real danger to Western countries – not Christianity. I don’t want to “lose the focus” on Islam.

          Another reason is that it’s good to have as many people on your side as possible, and that includes Christians.

        • Bunswalla

          There are no bible facts POY – it’s a made-up story. You know like The Cat in the Hat or Hairy Maclary From Donaldson’s Dairy, only with less relevance and a much worse read.

    • Hazards001

      “Any other ideas as to how to fight Islam here?”

      Tactical Nuclear Weapons? We could use ’em on the Greens if we run out of Muslims?

  • maninblack

    Whale what happened to your dinner out with cactus and hooten? was it, where you where going to get hammered and then get booted out of restaurant to see how Aaron Gilmore managed it..?

    • blokeintakapuna

      Yeah… Pics or it didn’t happen. Double dare here… Do we have a triple?

      Edited to add: if its BYO, I’m happy to sponsor a cask. Red or White?

  • williamabong

    Why is it, when I on one of very infrequent visits to either The Standard or Red Alert I leave the sites feeling unclean and wanting a shower ?

    • Whafe

      I get the same feeling, it is like taking a bath in pox, poop and all things energy sapping….

    • cows4me

      They use to many big words for me. Most seem to be out to baffle each other with bullshit, me thinks they’ve spent to much time studying and not enough time doing.

    • Hollyfield

      My New Year’s resolution was to stop visiting The Standard. Apart from one little relapse in March which I regretted within a couple of minutes, I’ve been completely clean for over six months now, and I feel great.

    • OT Richter

      Because you jack off to it?

  • blokeintakapuna

    I’m still chuffed as bro for Whale Oil scoring the “man ban” motto directly against Labour and to such a beautiful sledging all day long, as to have the MSM play catch up throught the day, with most Labour MP’s squirming, ducking and diving even still today! Brilliant!

    The speed with which the label was picked up by the leftie MSM only confirms where they get their political opinion and ideas from but also that WO is quite likely a far better bellwether and source of polling than the pollsters… Or anyone on the left would be prepared to admit.

    The negative fallout for Labour, heaped upon past dodgy behaviours example after example, will mean the nasty party label, and the selling passports for cash party label, will now need to make room for the man ban party label as well, because it sure looks like the MSM now have the bit between their teeth and are starting to ask questions. They smell political blood in the water… and like a pack of circling, hungry sharks, they should start by asking Shearer about the timing of completing his tax returns…

    Parker first… Shearer second?

    Anyway, just sayin’… Nice shootin’ Tex! Keep up the great work!

  • AnonWgtn

    Do we have to wait for the Pike River’s CEO Peter Whittall’s trial to ask the Health and Safety Manager, Neville Rockhouse, who sadly lost a son, what was his responsibility in the mine ?
    I thought it included Safety (presumably of the miners) but to listen to him and his mate
    the Greymouth publican it is everybody else’s fault, and as Safety Manager he accepts no responsibility for the failure of safety of the miners.