Poor people are useless

I have never been a fan of Jamie Oliver, but I find I have developed a new found respect for him. Basically he is saying the poor in Britain are useless fools.

The funny thing is he was hired by the former Labour government. Bet they aren’t to pleased by how that has turned out.

Jamie Oliver has sparked a row after saying he found it hard to talk about modern day poverty when he came across British families living on junk food while spending money on expensive TV sets.

The celebrity chef, who was enlisted by the Labour Government to improve the quality of school meals, has now rounded on the British working class diet.

Oliver recalled being appalled by the diet of a British family who lived on a diet of junk food, but still had the money for consumer goods.

“You might remember that scene in Ministry Of Food, with the mum and the kid eating chips and cheese out of styrofoam containers, and behind them is a massive TV. It just didn’t weigh up,” he said.

“The fascinating thing for me is that seven times out of 10, the poorest families in this country choose the most expensive way to hydrate and feed their families. The ready meals, the convenience foods.”

This was in stark contrast to other parts of the world – such as Italy – where economically deprived families still managed to enjoy a healthy diet.

“I meet people who say, ‘You don’t understand what it’s like.’ I just want to hug them and teleport them to the Sicilian street cleaner who has 25 mussels, 10 cherry tomatoes, and a packet of spaghetti for 60 pence, and knocks out the most amazing pasta,” said Oliver, 38, whose own wealth is estimated at £150 million.

“You go to Italy or Spain and they eat well on not much money. We’ve missed out on that in Britain, somehow.” he said in an interview in the Radio Times. 

Of course the usual suspects are outraged….missing the point Jamie Oliver was actually making.

But his remarks were challenged by the Child Poverty Action Group’s head of policy, Imran Hussein.

“As official statistics show, parents of poor children are much less likely to be able to afford fresh fruit for their children. We also know from the evidence that as the incomes of poor families rise, they spend more on things like healthy food and children’s clothes.

“The huge hits many working and non-working families are taking in their incomes as a result of cuts in tax credits and benefits are very real, as is the resulting huge growth in demand for food banks.

”The Government’s child poverty strategy is seriously adrift and urgently needs rethinking.”

Mr Hussein added: “Jamie Oliver has made a huge contribution to improving school meals and we’re grateful for the support his foundation has given us in our work on free school meals.

“He is right to say that healthy food doesn’t always have to be expensive – one of CPAG’s ambassadors, the food blogger Jack Monroe, is an excellent example of this – but for many families it’s low income which gets in the way of healthy eating.”

 


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  • Whafe

    The truth hurts a good many it seems…

  • Allyson

    Labour party need the stupid poor, and will encourage their unhealthy lifestyles with promises of more welfare. Jamie is wrong fresh seafood and veggies are for rich pricks only.

    • AngryTory

      which is why the first thing anyone that goes on the bludge should lose is the “right” – really the privilege – to vote.

      no representation without taxation!

      permanently

      • thor42

        Agreed.

  • Gobe1

    It is just sheer laziness, i do it myself, cant be bothered cooking after work so get Chinese or something. A bag of potatoes is ~5 bucks.

    • kehua

      Just had our first meal with new spuds out of the garden last night, planted 11 weeks ago and covered with a tarp when required (4x). Dug up 2 .1 Kg enough for 3 good feeds for 2 of us from 2 seed spuds cost 64 cents or 23 cents a meal, for a family 4 that makes it 46 cents. If the dumb bastards did this they could afford good meat to go with it. Incredible that in a climate like ours people are too bloody lazy to grow their own food.

      • Harroputza

        I planted beans last year. Packet cost $1 or something like that. I had too many seeds, so I just threw some on the ground. All of them, including the ones that I had discarded, produced beans. We have a freezer full of beans still after using them maybe once a week.

        There is no excuse for claiming poverty. All it takes is a planting day every six months or so and a little effort (maybe gardening once a week on Sunday instead of heading to the boozer after church) and you have food.

        Grass verges should be dug up and made into veggie patches, and anyone sentenced to community work looks after them. Get rid of useless natives like nikau palms or non-fruiting trees on council land and turn them into farms.

        Schools can organise a roster of looking after the plants every week. So there’s six rows and 42 seeds — how many seeds per row? Photosynthesis (science). Writing a story about the life of a carrot (creative writing). Physical education.

        How hard is this?!

      • AngryTory

        Dumb bludgers don’t deserve meat or potatoes.

        They deserve to starve in the gutter

        • kehua

          Sometimes I honestly think, due to some of your comments, that you are perhaps worse than those that you discredit. Just sayin…..

          • LabTested

            he is a troll. ignore him

  • blokeintakapuna

    Crock pot stew – cheaper cuts of meat, potatoes, cheap seasonal vegetables – even bulked-up with rice if needed – and hey presto – feed many for less than $20…

    • conwaycaptain

      Bloke
      I live on my own and the two most used cooking utensils Chez Moi is the slow cooker/crockpot which I think is more than 30 years old and the wok!!!
      My wife was a good cook but didn’t like cooking so I did it and we taught our son to cook as well. In Countdown now they have recipes to feed 4 on less than $15. That is a damn site cheaper than Maccas.
      Tonight I ham having lamb hocks cooked in the crock along with red onions, garlic, spuds and a tin of chopped toms. Tomorrow will be chicken curry with red onions, garlic and using individual spices.

      • Bunswalla

        Sounds delicious – what time do you want me there? I’ll bring a nice bottle of plonk.

        • blokeintakapuna

          Seems there’s plenty of interest in a “pot luck” dinner? Maybe even on election night?

          It could be like a WOBH blind date, pot luck party!

          • conwaycaptain

            Pity I am in the S Waikato

          • BigDes

            Very nice, great wake boarding, bring on summer in mango!

          • Ducky

            where???? when??? I am in…

        • blokeintakapuna

          …and here I was thinking wine only came in cardboard boxes…

          • Bunswalla

            Well, I decant the Chateau Cardboard into a recycled Grange bottle I found behind the shed. Nobody seems to notice the difference.

      • Euan Ross-Taylor

        and I’ll bring desert.

      • blokeintakapuna

        Yep – crock pot stew for us tonight also – 700grams of gravy beef ($8 from the butcher shop), 2 red onions, mushrooms, packet of Maggi “beef stew” mix with small tin of tomato paste, garlic and ginger – mix, leave for 5 or 6 hours – job done… and done cheaply without hassle.
        Mind you – it does take a little preparation, some prior planning and accepting responsibility for what you want to eat….

        • Michael

          Last night we had lamb casserole – $8 of lamb off cuts, an onion, tin of tomatoes and chicken stock. Slow cooked six hours then trimmed off the meat from the bones and cut away the fat. Served with mashed potatoes and steamed veges. Total cost probably just over $10, feed two adults and two kids.

        • Ducky

          totally agree with you all .Them bastards are far too lazy to even cook for their family and they expect more money from the taxpayer’s handout..you only have to visit McDon to see who goes there from noon onwards…no surprises..

    • CheesyEarWax

      My cheap pasta dish consists of pasta, cheap mussels and fish pieces(cheap types like hoki or mullets, buy them whole and cut them into pieces of flesh), or use cheap frozen prawns, fresh or canned tomatoes. All done in a pan in 15 mins. Served with a sprinkle of olive and herbs. Cheap and nutritious meal.

  • cows4me

    When the socialists speak of poverty they talk in economic terms. True poverty is poverty of the mind and spirit which is the direct result of decades of a liberal mind set. The population has been dumbed down by so called do gooding, welfare brainwashed politicians. If we happily pay people to sit on their arses we can hardly be surprised they will take fail to take care of themselves by way of eating right. The whole system is arse about face but the liberal mind set is so deeply ingrained within our elected leaders. They can not see the patient doesn’t require more medication but needs to go cold turkey.

    • Mr Sackunkrak

      Exactly. Couldn’t put it better.

    • In Vino Veritas

      “A poor person isn’t he who has little, but he who needs a lot”.
      Old German proverb I’ve posted before, but still as true as ever.

  • Anonymouse Coward

    It is often quicker to cook a meal in a microwave than it is to climb into the car and go down to the shops and get a takeaway.

  • Mr Sackunkrak

    Having been a gym junkie for two years, the one thing I’ve really noticed is that I can’t stand the smell of junk food now, and when I have it out of convenience I actually feel unwell afterwards. Perhaps the “poverty afflicted” should be required to undertake exercise and let metabolism and nature deal to poor diet.

  • Bunswalla

    Heard the commie pinko Richard Boock on Radio Sport this morning crying for the “most vulnerable” in our society who feed cash into pokies which subsequently ends up helping sports teams.

    I’m sure he thinks someone turns up every day and puts a gun to their head making them go and put money into the stupid machines, even though they really don’t want to.

    They’re not vulnerable at all, they’re just fucking stupid if they think the outcome is going to go their way when they play the pokies. All they have to do is stop.

    • blokeintakapuna

      Agree – but saying all they have to do is just “stop” is exactly the same for smokers wanting to quit, drinkers wanting to stop, and over-eaters to stop eating.
      Much easier said than done… but after 18 years of smoking 30+ a day, I went cold turkey one day… and haven’t had one since – just over 10 years ago…

      • Bunswalla

        Well done on the cancer sticks, but you kind of prove the point, it can be done with will-power. What I don’t get is how people that are too stupid to stop playing pokies, or too stupid to ask for help if they feel they can’t stop, yet somehow have the money to put into the machines, are somehow “the most vulnerable”?

        • blokeintakapuna

          “The most vulnerable” give the left an issue/agenda to push – even more so when bereft of policy ideas – credible or otherwise…

      • kehua

        I did the same Duck shooting opener 1993.

  • Auto_Immune

    I meet people who say, ‘You don’t understand what it’s like.’

    It’s always annoying when people are immediately dismissive of legitimately helpful ideas/points, because they’re not in the exact same situation at the exact same time. It doesn’t mean people are less qualified to say something.

  • ozbob68

    A comment made from a foodbank in the UK last year is that they regularly police the nearest rubbish bins to their location, to retrieve what fussy poor people threw out from their pack. If you can be that fussy, then you can bloody well feed yourself.

  • Michael

    Ask yourself this:

    How many shops sell fried chicken in Otara, and how many sell it in (say) Herne Bay?

    How many kids get a pack of chips and a coke at the dairy ($2 each) rather than a bowl of porridge (30c) and then the parents say they can’t afforf healthy food. And then a pie for lunch ($3) instead of a jam sandwich and a banana (probably about 50c worth)

  • CheesyEarWax

    Food is not expensive to produce and not to buy. This is one area where mankind has improved massively throughout the centuries. Where food has become expensive is through socialist and green policies like farming subsidies, carbon taxes and banning GE in food production. Its ironic that its always the socialists and greenies complaining the cost of food, are they stupid or what?

    • Bunswalla

      are they stupid or what?

      That was a rhetorical question, right?

  • Saccharomyces

    I’m so fucking sick of this “much less likely to be able to afford fresh fruit for their children”!!!! Every time I see it my blood boils!

    Fruit and veg are the cheapest thing to buy, and the healthiest, poverty is no excuse to eat badly!

  • conwaycaptain

    C HICKEN CURRY
    There was a British Shipping Company called British India Steam Navigation Co that at one time had 100+ ships and they had Indian crews and were renowned for their curries.
    This recipe is for whole chooks cut up inc the bone but you can use chopped chook breasts (de skinned), chook thighs etc.
    Try this one BUT DO NOT ADD WATER as the tomatoes and the chook will produce enough liquid. Don’t do in a crock pot as it doesn’t work too well.
    Saute in ghee or oil of your choice 2 large red onions, 4 crushed garlic cloves, 1 Tbs of crushed ginger, chopped chillies to taste. When onions soft add 4 diced toms (de skinned) stir and cook on med heat for 5 mins.
    Add I Tbs each ground coriander, ground cumin, garam masala salt and two tablespoons of turmeric and salt to taste. Cook for 15 mins stirring regularly.
    Add chopped up chook inc neck reduce heat and simmer and cook
    Serve with chapatties or popadums with side dishes

  • conwaycaptain

    What about we all put in a recipe an WO can produce the Whale Oil cook book

    • Euan Ross-Taylor

      Take 2 snapper, Shear them and add a Curry leaf. Leave to self macerate, and ‘voila’, you have reheated hash.

      • conwaycaptain

        Euan
        Get some FRESH fish and cut into small chunks. Put in fridge Marinate for two to three hours in lemon and lime juice. Make sure the fish is well covered with the juices.
        Take fish out and pour juices away. Cut up red onions, garlic, chillies, red/green/yellow peppers and mushrooms and mix up well and add to fish then add coconut cream and leave in fridge for two hrs to chill.
        Serve with hot French bread.

        • Euan Ross-Taylor

          Sorry, but you are being too serious today. Though I might bookmark this page so I can come back to it on my cooking night.

        • Mr Sackunkrak

          Yum, I like citrus cooked fish.

        • Roland

          Yes, our Charter Skipper in Vanuatu used to do this and added thinly sliced cheese in between the layers of Mahi Mahi, exquisite

  • Petebuch

    Bingo!
    We have a winner.
    He is so right.
    So that said, what about the hoardes of Jandal shod PI’s and urban Maori here who do the same (and I might add whom also drive nice motors too).
    Isn’t the first step to get them to understand priorities?

  • Mother of ten

    Check out “How to feed a family of 6 for under $20” on Facebook. Been going for several months now, great low income family leading the way. Countdown promotion (Feed a family of 4 for $15) is great but a direct ripoff of these guys. They’ve got a cookbook deal and have a bit of a Jamie Oliver revolution in mind. All power to them. Poor budgetting and poor decision making are far greater problems than poverty. In fact they result in poverty, not the other way around.

    • metalnwood

      Dont buy from countdown and all of a sudden it becomes feed family of 4 for $10

  • Col

    I note a supermarket tells you how to feed 4 for $15, that is expensive.

    • Euan Ross-Taylor

      Maybe not if it is $15 per day?

  • thor42

    The thing is – back in the Depression days, millions of people all over the world were poor, but they had LOTS of “clues”. Lots of common-sense, determination and knowledge of how to make money last.
    Fast-forward to today, and the poor of today are complete bloody no-hopers with not the faintest idea of how to improve their lot in life. All they know is how to buy smokes, booze, Lotto tickets and big-screen TVs.
    Today’s poor are *lazier* than the Depression poor and *far more ignorant* as well.
    They also have an “entitlement culture” – they think that they should have everything without getting their backsides off the couch to do any work.

    • Euan Ross-Taylor

      True Thor, and I’d add that “todays’ poor” have a higher standard of living than many in the ‘well off’ category from the days of the depression and even the 1940s and ’50s. – ie better cars, better toys, better appliances. Being ‘poor’ today is but a perception which really means others have got more than me.

  • Hazards001

    And of course in the fucked up PC world of the UK the Child Poverty Action Group’s head of policy is not John Smith but Imran Hussein. What a fucking surprise!

    Then this cock gets even brighter with this load of bollocks:

    “He is right (Jamie Oliver) to say that healthy food doesn’t always have to be expensive – one of CPAG’s ambassadors, the food blogger Jack Monroe, is an excellent example of this – but for many families it’s low income which gets in the way of healthy eating.”

    WTF does that mean? They are so fucking busy sitting at home doing sweet fuck all they don’t have time to use the money provided to them by people that work hard to go out and buy the cheaper ingredients for a meal and cook them?

    Give me fucking strength!

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