The ugly reality of alternative energy

The Green Taliban blight spreads over the world like a cancer.  Hideous wind farms despoil the horizon; inefficient and ugly solar panels carpet the ground, the Amazon forests are levelled and burned so that green troughers can suck up biofuel subsidies and starve the poor.

Has there ever been a greater threat to the environment?

Row after row, this astonishing array of solar panels has completely engulfed an enormous 30-acre field in the heart of the countryside.

As this aerial photograph reveals, acres of beautiful Hampshire countryside have been blighted as a result, by 18,000 solar panels.

The solar farm covers a staggering 30 acres of land creating a massive eyesore in the centre of an otherwise picturesque view.

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Solar farms like this one have sprung up in recent years as farmers collect up to £50,000 a year in green subsidies – this site is made up of 18,000 solar PV panels, mounted on nine kilometres of frames using 5,000 ground screws

Photographer Tim Woodcock, 54, captured the image from a helicopter while flying more than 1,000ft above the solar array near Fawley.

The energy saving farm on the Cadland Estate uses photo-voltaic panels to produce five megawatts of power.

‘Many of these alternative energy sources are manufactured abroad, in China, for example.

‘It is very easy to say that a system is ‘green’ when all the energy and environmental damage and cost is made elsewhere.’

He added: ‘Obviously there is a lot of interest in alternative forms of energy. But the question remains how many of these will actually provide a real alternative to fossil fuels – so far, very few.

‘No one seems to have the courage to tell the truth about energy alternatives.’

The solar panel farm, which is the size of 18 football pitches, is one of the largest of its kind in Britain and took just four weeks to construct.

It is made of 18,000 solar PV panels, mounted on nine kilometres of frames using 5,000 ground screws.

 


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  • worksux

    Looks better than than a dirty great hole in the ground, like out the back of Huntly or Waihi..

    • Give me a dirty great hole any time.

      And ffs keep that comment in context.

    • LabTested

      The hole in the ground at Waihi is a tourist attraction. Always international visitors wandering around. If anyone has not seen it, it is well worth a stop.

    • philbest

      How many holes in the ground do we need to keep civilisation going, compared with how much land we need to cover with solar panels and wind turbines?
      DUH.

      Try the following party game some time. Try and find those holes in the ground at random on Google Earth in any country with which you are not familiar. China and Eastern Europe would have the most of them because they never gave Greenies the time of day. Should be pretty easy, huh, with greedy humanity “raping the planet”, yadda, yadda, yadda…..?

      Ironic that in the day and age of Google Earth, we have neo-pagan medieval irrational belief systems dominating so many minds. Bring back the papal theocracy, it was less of an obstruction to progress.

  • Doesn’t it look lovely. We could become known as the land of milk & honey…..and solar panels. Yippee.

    • Euan Ross-Taylor

      Would have to house the cows for the milk though, ‘cos the paddocks will be full of blinding mirrors. I wonder what hazard these are to aircraft?

      • Might have to build a maimai on the edge of the arrays, all the waterfowl will be confusing them for lakes. Already happened in other places.

  • johnbronkhorst

    Solar will not become the answer until fields like this generate 100 times the power they do now.
    It also misses the point, the big losses in power supply, are transmission losses. The power lost getting it from the generator to the user.
    I still believe the research should be into how we generate power at the users location.
    ie at your house where you use it…..Now that would be REAL, power to the people!
    We are no where near achieving this!

    • Patrick

      Just imagine that – the Labour Party would lose the ability to tax the bejesus out of Kiwis by massively raising electricity prices like they did during their last reign of terror.

      • johnbronkhorst

        Exactly!!! So if National want to stay in power, for ever, put money into R&D for this! Then sell ALL the generating companies!

        • LabTested

          The european union has just settled an anti dumping claim with China over the cost of solar panels. The europeans were claiming China was selling them too cheap! So the EU is not concerned with cheap electricity, but protecting its own manufacturers of solar panels.

          In Austria & Southern Germany almost every house seems to have a few of these on their roof. Not sure what the economics of it are, but Germans have to pay a levy on their power bill to support wind farms, so probably an incentive to get some power out of the roof.

          That would also touch on your points about transmission losses & loss of farm land.

          ..just saying

          • johnbronkhorst

            Yes…but the point is…the technology doesn’t exist to make “personal generation” viable! That technology would appear to be DECADES away, partly because govt.s are encouraging bulk generation, probably so they can TAX it!

          • philbest

            I have always said that the potential for this kind of energy is “on site generation”. We need global capitalism to do for home photovoltaics and wind turbines, what it has done for audio, video, power tools, etc etc.

            The energy industry trying to keep it large-scale and institutionalised is just crony capitalist rent-seeking.

    • Still need deep cycle batteries, which are evil environmentally.
      Also major issues with voltage regulation and line isolation.

      No real answers as yet, as some kind of remote controlled relay at the pole would be required.

  • jac

    Looks like half of the Netherlands with their glasshouses. 5 megawatts from 30 acres pumped straight into the grid sounds like a money-spinner. Who is gonna see it anyway, few rich pricks helicoptering to their country estates?

    • johnbronkhorst

      So to provide power to NZ (total) population (4 mill) would take about
      150 square Km of FLAT land, if the sun always shone at the same intensity 24 hours a day 7 days a week!
      Begs the one question, What land will we use to grow our food with? Especially as our population grows.

      • jac

        Did you take the existing hydro and geothermal generators into account john?

        • johnbronkhorst

          Why?? The argument is about the solar panels you see in the picture!!!

          • jac

            You transferred the argument to NZ and then threw out the baby with the bathwater.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Are you stupid or something? The argument has NEVER been about the UK, NZ or the current or future population of either. It was about…the viability of solar power in it’s current form!
            Do try to keep up!

          • jac

            “An idyll blighted by 18,000 solar panels: Seen from the sky, the reality of alternative energy”
            LMFAO There’s a coal fired power station just a few Ks away and then they use words like “idyll” and “blighted”.

          • johnbronkhorst

            and with polution control, reburners on the chimneys, the coal fired station just looks like any other building, taking up less room and producing MORE power!

          • jac

            And another plus is you don’t have to hire a helicopter to have your idyllic vista blighted.

          • philbest

            Score ten-nil to Bronkhorst. He is 100% correct. The eco-fascists hold rallies of “15 minutes hate” over holes in the ground and power plants that you would have to hire a helicopter to find, and these power the whole country.

            But solar panels and wind turbines are “good”, even though powering the country with them would mean them being in everybody’s face everywhere?

            The same goes for “new subdivisions”. Frank Lloyd Wright regarded it as an insult to architecture, to suggest that “housing” by definition would “spoil landscapes”. He was dead against high density. His concepts of 1-acre-section landscape urbanism were magnificent. It is the eco-fascists human-battery-hen lifestyle diktats that are repulsive.

  • Col

    A village in China, not sure where or the name, but they have a population of 32000 and they run off solar. Like the comments here better than a big hole. Beijing could do well with these panels, but the problem is no UV because of the smog, catch 22.

    • philbest

      I am not against solar, but it is absurd to be against “big holes”. The eco-taleban “raping the planet” mantra is the most irrational nonsense. Take Pike River, for example. Who would have ever heard of it let alone seen it, had it been open-cast and no mining deaths had occurred?

      • Col

        Very true, once finished with, they get over grown.

        • johnbronkhorst

          Saw a programme on TV “who do you think you are?”…Sarah Jessica Parker.
          Her ancestors were gold miners in California. They took her to the mines where they worked and you couldn’t tell it was a mine!

          • LabTested

            ..and the Coromandel has been dug up & pillaged. Now the Greens call it pristine

          • johnbronkhorst

            yep…honeycombed with mines, going back over 100 years.

          • jac

            “They took her to the mines where they worked and you couldn’t tell it was a mine!”
            Go and have a look down the West Coast where the gold dredges operated and then repeat the above.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Been, seen and very happy to repeat!!!

          • jac

            You’re full of it john; another example of bs, “and with polution control, reburners on the chimneys, the coal fired station just looks like any other building,”

          • johnbronkhorst

            So you’ve studied Physics at University, worked in the electronics industry for 28 years in various industries. Contract to a huge variety of industries. Have had experience working with a company supplying small scale wind turbines, in order to quote a company for the supply of same.
            So it would be YOU who are full of bull shit!!!!

          • jac

            I don’t follow your logic john. That you failed at uni and have a multimeter stashed somewhere in your rented lockup doesn’t make you less full of it. I once had a neighbour who assured me that before falling on hard times he owned half of Wellington, he of course, was full of bs too.

          • philbest

            Ten nil to Bronkhorst again.

            The medieval papal hierarchy was not as much of an irrational obstruction to progress as the eco Taleban with its holy pain for Gaia and holes in the ground on 0.000000000000000000001% of the earth’s surface.

          • jac

            It’s what comes out of the holes that does the damage phil.

          • philbest

            If 10% or 15% or whatever, of the population in developed nations, really, really cares about this, they could make a practical difference by physically leaving civilisation and living in subsistence conditions in trees and caves.
            Society should take nil notice whatsoever of freakin’ hypocrites who want to stop mining and roads and scientific advancement and increased food production and increased survival of greater numbers of humans from birth; who themselves use electricity, have had a free public education, receive free health care, live in relative safety in civil society, can afford food, clothing and shelter as provided efficiently by global capitalism, enjoy modern entertainment, have a well paying parasitic McJob, etc etc etc.
            Even worse hypocrites, are the Dick Smith/Richard Branson/George Soros/Ted Turner types who have got filthy rich out of modern global capitalism, and actively fund Quisling movements against it. The motives frequently are to reduce the opportunity for competitors and to introduce distortions into the economy that they can “game” for zero-sum economic rent.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Phil:
            I do notice dear old jac is very reticent about telling us his qualifications or experience on this subject Suspect nil).
            So I will accept your score of win by 10-nil.
            Since also I know my 28 years experience in electronics trumps his.

          • jac

            28 years! When people ask
            me how long I’ve been in the electronics game I tell em 35 years. They,
            with a look of genuine pity, say, HOW LONG? And I repeat 35 YEARS!!! So don’t
            blow your trumpet about your measly 28 years john; hell I was soldering circuits
            when you were still shitting your nappies.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Since you have shown absolutely NO knowledge of electronics on here….I’m calling BULLSHIT on your experience!!!

          • jac

            lol

  • kehua

    They are massive bird killers as well, apparently waterfowl and ducks etc come out of the sky to land on them thinking that it is water in the light conditions …….splaat

  • Tude

    Wow! 30 acres of good productive land covered in panels of Chinese plastic crap.
    How green is that?
    Guess there will be more to come ‘cos it’s great response when you hold-out the ‘subsidy’ sign in front of Pommy landowners (means they won’t need to go out and sit on one of their 3 EU subsidized tractors.)

  • lou

    And once again proven that the out sourcing of jobs was a masterpiece of social engineering – not only was the low end jobs exported but also the pollution.

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