Living wage promise falls flat

While it might play well to the feral hard left the promise by the spendthrift candidates for Labour’s leadership have committed Labour to the pipe dream of a living wage.

But it hasn’t gone down that well with the voters.

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And a reader emails about this issue:

Hi Cam,

After watching the three “contestants” I am wondering  if they were genuine in how they expect bosses to pay a “living wage”. For goodness sake how are we going to stop the gullible swallowing these poisoned lollies. It is all very well to say when you’re being paid upwards of $144,000 for stuffing up the country, but the people that supply the jobs can’t afford any of this bull shit. Inflation here we come!  Unless you can con your way into a government job there will be unemployment for Africa, why don’t they understand the “rich pricks” create the jobs for these people.

I don’t think it’s a pay gap in so much as a job gap, we used to have cleaners, gardeners, etc, then we had factory workers, shop workers, then office workers, then middle management, then senior management etc. We seem to have lost the middle area of work hence the so called pay disparity.

People used to get paid according to their education, now everyone thinks it’s fare to be paid a management wage when you’re a cleaner.

These Labour ideas are just sound bites, practicality, unfortunately bites harder. Giving everyone a living wage just increases the cost of living, so it’s a lose, lose not a win win.

God defend New Zealand from these imbeciles!


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  • JC

    Hmm, the other way to read those figures is that 45% oppose and the rest support it provided they get their share of the goodies.


  • Agent BallSack

    Cunliffe said that he was going to deliver “the basics for families”.

    “You know, it is easy for a politician to promise the earth, moon and stars. To say that everyone will have a job tomorrow and a living wage. That is what I want and I won’t settle for less.”

    Its EASY to say bullshit so I’m GOING to!

  • CheesyEarWax

    The Living Wage is a very stupid campaign. One of the easiest thing employers do to meet the extra cost is reduce staff numbers, the same staff that these stupid unions represent.

    • LabTested

      That is so true. I have a business overseas in what was once a low wage economy. As real wages start to increase we first looked to removing inefficiencies, then to making investment in technology to replace workers. We are now very aware of finding solutions that don’t involve people. Consequently, even though the business is growing we are reducing head count

      • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

        That is why Hippie Norman’s green jobs are the way to go.

  • Chris

    Do we not need to increase every ones wages to compensate?, or do we believe that those currently on $19 an hour will somehow be happy to see everyone else get an increase up to $4.60 per hour?

    • LabTested

      On Q+A yesterday Richard Prebble said State Services wages are linked. Increase those at the bottom & every Government employee will get an automatic relative pay increase

  • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    Folks – My spies are out on the streets in every single town in NZ. The word on the street is people are very excited about living wage and minimum wage promises. They are all now talking about voting Labour. A straw poll done by my spies indicate close to 53% support for Labour. People seem to say rich should pay more tax. Game over.

    • Agent BallSack

      lol SCS I am totally excited about Government workers getting more money. Can’t wait to see productivity increase across all Government sectors too. /Tui

      • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

        Labour is winning bro, labour is winning….

    • Col

      So my comment about some Labour voters would see this as being a bullshit is not true, and I thought some may have read between the lines.

    • Ducky

      hang on a minute, what about us umemployables? don’t we get a living wage increase as well????

  • Euan Ross-Taylor

    A credible policy that would resonate with almost all NZers would be along the lines of capping MP’s salaries to a set margin, and reducing parliament expense accounts. Everyone would agree with that and if they got into power they could be certain that parliament would end up voting against it so they would win the kudos but would cost them nothing.

  • johnbronkhorst

    Their theory is….if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
    The fact that we already have the monkeys, should mean we only have to pay them peanuts!!!

  • thor42

    The Stuff poll is at 65% against it at the moment.

  • Sooty

    Is Robertson going for the gay vote? Are the public service staffed by a large percentage of gays?

    • AnonWgtn

      The homosexuals are very probably more greatly employed in the Public Services as a grouping.
      Wellington is obvious but do not have knowledge of other centres.

    • Whanga_Cynic

      From my experience, yes and yes.

  • stephen2d

    They (Silent T and Grantzilla) know full well that they will never implement this “living wage” as a policy if they get in power (leading the Government, not the Labour). At the very best (for those who believe this), it will end up as a “guideline” or “principle” with the time to implement by 2020 or some other remote year in future.

    This is just internal posturing with no substance whatsoever, they know it, most reasonable people know it – it is just those that are desperate and with little means to support themselves that are gullible enough to believe it.

    Can someone in the media press them to cost this or to give some detail, rather than just let them BS their way through?

    • AnonWgtn

      Media would not dare ask or do costings.

  • Col

    I hope I am right with this comment, I would hope to believe that some of those who have voted Labour in the past are looking at these 3, and saying “that will not work” I don’t think all Labour voters are idiots, lets see what happens

    • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

      Col – are you on planet Labour?

      ” I don’t think all Labour voters are idiots” – ofcourse they are. That is why they vote Labour.

      • Col

        If only I could write right, one to you.

  • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    Folks – Had breakfast with the three amigos. They told me that the following promises will be announced over the next two weeks.

    1. Free dental service scheme for all
    2. Free flights and ferry services during school holidays
    3. Free movies during weekends
    4. Super markets controlled by state and ration cards for families – free bread and milk for every family
    5. First 5 litres of petrol/diesel free every time you fill up
    6. Two X KFC and Two X McDonald vouchers for every day for every kid during school holidays
    7. Free public transport to go to school/work for everybody
    8. Pasifika TV (already announced by Pornsy), Chinese TV, Indian TV channels for free
    9. Free rugby channel subscription for everybody
    10. A month’s worth of salary as bonus for every worker

    Beat that John Key boy.

    • SJ00

      Looks like horse lady will be running a training program for the extra KFC workers your policy will generate:

      “I have first hand experience working with young people with disabilities. In
      fact, I trained two people at KFC in these very roles”

      -seems she is a qualified KFC chef now.

      • Col

        You wouldn’t want to share a burger with her.

        • Ratchet

          Yeah, get your fingers too close to those gnashers and you might not see them ever again…

        • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

          I can organise a BBQ with the horse lady for you Col….

          • Col

            Done deal, got my own saddle, have been know to tame a few wild fillies in my time, howdy there stranger, do I know you from round here, never mind lets get in the saddle and ride.

  • rockape

    Firstly they are all competing on who can offer the biggest bribes. Secondly are they all going to be dictators or will these policies have to be passed by caucus and more importantly treasury officials. Finally dont they understand the club they are puting in Nationals hand. By outbidding each other they are raising the publics expectations of the bounty Labour will bestow. Come the debates pre-election this will be shown for the false promise it is and Labours credibility goes down the toilet again. They just have no idea beyond trying to bribe voters. Pork barrel politics at its worst!

  • thor42

    Look at what Cunners has just promised –

    From Stuff –

    Quote – “”Cunliffe said that he was going to deliver “the basics for families”.

    “You know, it is easy for a politician to promise the earth, moon and stars. To say that everyone will have a job tomorrow and a living wage. That is what I want and I won’t settle for less.”

    Ok, Cunliffe, you are now on public record.

    The day after the election, if you win, I expect you to have EVERYONE in a job that pays the “living wage.”

    No ifs, no buts. You “won’t settle for less.”

    • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

      thor42 – settle down. Curryleaf will come up with excuses that John Key and Bill English left the economy in such a mess, it will take him another 10 years to achieve that…MSM and people will forget all this talk by lunch time tomorrow…

  • Monty

    It. Is not just the living wage bullshit. Ok here is what will happen. Maybe I will go to the pictures with my wife and have a quick bite first. So the babysitter demands a living wage. And the night out is suddenly unaffordable. $100 for the movie tickets and a quick curry before and a coffee after. Plus the baby sitter demanding around $100. Ok decision to watch a movie on TV instead with a curry from supermarket cost $10. Suddenly the movie theatre misses out, the curry hut misses out, the cafe misses out and the baby sitter gets zip. Oh dear this is suddenly not working out. The left are economically illiterate. The unintended consequences of the policy are substantial. Or is grants next move to subsidise the theatre staff, the waiter, the cafe worker, and the babysitter. What fools.

  • Harroputza

    This has confirmed to me that, of the three candidates:
    Best for NZ – Shane Jones;
    Best chance of Labour being elected — David Cunliffe;
    Best chance of Labour fracturing into a party for gays, arts students and beneficiaries / a new party for workers, brown people and unions — Grant Robertson.

    • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

      What is best for National? The saviour Sheep has gone….

  • I See Silly People

    So when Labour get in we all shut down our companies and all get the living wage from the Government.
    I’m convinced, count me in. Why didn’t anyone think of this before?