Troughers eyeing up new targets

Veteran troughers like Shane Kawenata Bradbrook must be wondering how they can keep themselves in the public trough as funding for anti smoking rorts is surpassed by funding for anti obesity ‘initiatives’ via Tony Ryall’s Ministry of Health. See Tony’s Ministry do-gooders dole out over $100m a year to troughers.

The universities have been quick to leap on the taxpayer funded gravy train, and Otago University clearly has eyes on the trough, equally matched by researchers from Auckland University. So much so that they’ve ‘teamed’ up to bring you a two-day symposium on sugar, sugar sweetened beverages or as troughers are now calling them ‘SSBs’.

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I’m wondering where the FiSS comes from as they’ve missed out a key word from the logo. It makes you wonder if they were a bit sugar deficient when they designed it, because shouldn’t it be ‘FSISD’?

As it currently reads the ‘Fighting in Soft Drinks’ which sounds more like a 80s porn movie. Maybe they got ahead of themselves when designing the logo after watching too many war movies one night, particularly with the SS bit at the end.

But whatever the case, these troughers are just like every other trougher – desperate to tell you how to live your lives.

But they actually don’t care about you. They’re more concerned about lobbying politicians and embarrassing them so they direct more money into their trough of self-appointed experts.

 


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  • conwaycaptain

    And what about Massey’s lecturer in “Fat Studies” Cat Pause

    • Rebecca

      I haven’t consumed pop for years and while I understand the attraction, it’s not just an issue of “freedom of choice” when we have a healthcare
      system funded by the community. If consuming excess calories translates to several million $ in additional healthcare costs per obese person, the community does have the right (obligation?) to try to protect itself and its healthcare budgets. Diabetes is the big one- it is going to completely overwhelm healthcare budgets if current trends continue. The likes of us will struggle to get a hip replacement or care in our dotage when service providers are bulging at the seams with sick obese diabetics. The previous generation had it right- a penny of prevention is worth a pound of cure, a stitch in time saves nine, ambulance at bottom of cliff, etc etc. Today we seem more impressed by freedom including the freedom to cut off our nose to spite our face.

      As for Cat Pause- she would be in trouble were she a real doctor. Because there are serious health risks associated with the obesity she seeks to normalize. Ask the gynaecologists in South Auckland about the epidemic of previously uncommon gynae cancers in younger and younger women in their obese catchments. Ask the physicians about the developing diabetes epidemic that will doom whole chunks of the younger generations to a shorter lifespan than their parents. All happening on our watch, too.

      • johnbronkhorst

        Get the fuck out of my life and my freedom of choice!!!!

        • Rebecca

          I’d be delighted- just as soon as you get the *** out of the publicly funded healthcare system so people like me don’t have to cover the cost of your lousy choices.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Not in it PRATT!

          • Rebecca

            Well then, if you live on your own planet then nobody cares if you guzzle pop. You’ve completely invented the grievance that people are trying to control you. Do as you please.

          • tarkwin

            Interesting theory, we can look forward to a future with less Labour voters that won’t live as long – can’t be all bad.

          • Rebecca

            That may well be the case- there are definite demographic trends and there are some who argue that dying younger is cheaper than an extra decade of expensive care. People shy away from those sorts of discussions today but we’ll be forced to grapple with them within a decade AND to ration care, knowingly denying care to some because we need the $ for others. The elderly may even come under pressure to do the Eskimo thing, effectively climbing aboard an iceberg and heading off into the dusk to avoid being a burden to their community. Sounds awful today, but if people demand the right to make lousy choices that they expect everybody else to pay for, then we’re going to face this sooner rather than later. No doubt those cursing and hollering about freedom today will still be hollering about the consequences as if somebody else caused it.

          • cows4me

            People should have the right to make stupid choices but society should have the right to say it’s your problem you sort it. Spending millions on groups to fight such problems is a bit like the issues we have with pest control. The easy pests get knocked on a head for a bounty the hard ones are farmed for further gains. We are all arse about face in this country. We spend millions fighting the disease but the cure could be as easy as saying no. What ever happened to personal responsibility ? You’re part of the problem Rebecca, you say it’s alright and people don’t understand the problem, like hell they do.

          • Andy C

            I’m not quite sure what you are proposing C4M. The cure is as easy as saying no, but don’t try and inform and encourage people about that option..? I don’t quite get it…

            Clearly people are not taking responsibility. What can be done about that?

          • Rebecca

            cows4me, are you saying people should be denied care- that society should close the hospital door in peoples’ faces and say “you caused it, you sort it?”

          • cows4me

            In certain cases most definitely. You just don’t show up at the hospital with full blown diabetes or obesity, it happens over years. Many will have had health issues long before they end up costing us big time. I’m not a quack but clearly there must be warning signs that someone is hell bent on self destruction. There must be some stage when we say enough, you help yourself because we ain’t helping you anymore.

          • Andy C

            If only C4M, it would be awesome if that was the case. Type 2 can be pretty silent for a loooong time until its too late, it’s a total and utter bastard like that.

          • Rebecca

            Not quite true… some people discover they are diabetic when they collapse and get taken to hospital.

            Problem in NZ is that once somebody turns up needing care, it’s not in the nature of healthcare workers (or most NZers) to let people die on the hospital doorstep. Sheesh, I understand the principle of what you’re saying- but how can it happen in real life? This isn’t the USA where there’s no care without a credit card, and now even they have rules to prevent just turfing people out to die. Seems to me that a lifestyle campaign is a good first attempt at a difficult problem.
            One other thing: very few people have a death wish and most will listen once you figure out what presses their button.

          • cows4me

            This may be unhelpful but I’ve been a farmer most of my life, was born into you could say. I’ve seen behaviours in animals that can clearly be seen in humans, probably this will sound a bit harsh but humans are animals too, despite what the politically correct would tell you. I’ve had animals that when given the chance will play the system. I’ve had sick cows that have been put into barns and fed the best food, meal, molasses etc. It doesn’t take them long to learn that if some darn fool idiot is going to wait on them they will make the most of it. Usually I see through their subterfuge and they get the short shift. What I’m trying to say is that sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. As with people, the longer you piss around and make excuses, roll out programs and appease the longer the problem will continue. I’ll stick with NO more.

          • Mr_Blobby

            You are right and you are wrong.

            The states benevolence should be rationed it is not limitless, a good place to start is to ration care for self inflicted injuries like obesity related illnesses.

            Two things Nature and Darwin both suggest survival of the fittest. This is required for a species to evolve.

            You cant stop Nature from doing what Nature does, it is the Worlds most prodigious serial killer, and like the Ocean it does not give a shit what you think, it is neither for you or against you.

          • Rebecca

            Mr Blobby, I agree healthcare already is rationed in NZ by waiting lists and healthcare professionals juggling beds and resources. But if you want to start turning sick people away, you can’t expect the doctors and nurses to act as society’s executioners. Which is where the ideology fails. The only way to achieve what you say, is for society to start making the tough decisions itself. If the decision is not to treat diabetics- then society needs to make that choice and it needs to be ready to explain itself to skinny diabetics who did nothing wrong. Etc etc. So then comes the exceptions followed by the usual shrouded NZ corruption and you know how it all goes pear shaped.

          • Andy C

            Surely someone with such strong anger issues must be in the mental health system somewhere…no?

          • johnbronkhorst

            pratt

        • Andy C

          They are not in your life JBH. They are hoping to educate you as to the perils of softdrink consumption (see my other post), and from there let you make your choice. Similar to the their campaigns to decrease smoking.

          If you don’t like it, don’t listen.

          • johnbronkhorst

            I am prepared to accept the consequences of my actions. I don’t want you to “educate me” I do that for myself, weigh pro’s and con’s then act.
            BTW I only rarely drink these processed soft drinks (make our own lemonade out of …..LEMONS).
            The principles I hold to, are around personal responsibility on ALL issues!!!
            This is no different to when the greens tried to tell us, what light bulbs we should use or shower heads etc!!!!

          • Andy C

            Not quite the same JBH. They tried to force you to use certain shower heads and light bulbs.

            I guess you’re saying you disagree with public health education. Not much more I can add then. Cheers.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Education??? How is this education? This is manipulation, social engineering, taking away human individual thought and action.
            ie “Do as I say, because I know better than you!!”:
            I am challenging that premise!!

          • Rebecca

            Of course we understand your slogans- but people keep trying to tell you that there ARE rational reasons for these campaigns. It’s not just busy-bodies trying to force you because they know better. Doesn’t a billion $ per year diverted from current uses press your button? It does mine.
            As for freedom: in the US they say that your freedom to wave your fist ends at the tip of my nose. Well then, perhaps your freedom to live as you please ends at the hospital door. Because it’s WE who end up paying for your choices in New Zealand. If you want to live as you profess, go to the USA ad refuse healthcare insurance and see how you get on.

          • johnbronkhorst

            IDIOT…FUCKING IDIOT!!!

          • Rebecca

            Yeah, I’ve always been impressed by potty mouths. Impressive argument, dude.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Then stop being and talking like an uneducated socialist, tell us all what’s best for us (in your ridiculous opinion)!!!

          • BJ

            Actually John it’s not about you at all. It’s about doing the job ignorant parents never did because they weren’t educated themselves to know any better. Ignorance is what has people shoving crap down their throats without any thought of the consequences. Sounds like you are educated so it’s not targeted at you. Why wouldn’t you want other poor misguided souls to be able to make informed smart choices like you.

          • Andy C

            Oh oh, BJ has informed JBH that he is not the center of the universe. Don’t inquisitions start when these sort of facts get proposed?

          • johnbronkhorst

            more stupidity!!!

          • johnbronkhorst

            Then get YOURSELF an education (on all issues) information has never been more available.
            But fools who would say “I know what’s best for you” are just that….FOOLS!! and presumptuous fools at that!

          • Andy C

            “fools who are just that.. FOOLS”

            There’s a tautology if ever I saw one.

          • Bunswalla

            Out of interest JBH, how much sugar do you put in your lemonade? Genuine question.

          • johnbronkhorst

            they say put in about 1 cup per about 2 litres.
            But I prefer 2/3 of a cup.
            I understand that honey can be a good substitute, but is expensive!

        • BJ

          Gotta disagree with you here John.

          An individual’s freedom of choice only exists while it remains in a relationship of creative tension with the security gained by contributing to the needs of society brings – otherwise you are not free – but merely alone.

          So if an individual abuses their body recklessly – by choice – without any consideration of obligation to society to take responsibility for themselves (such that they will take more from society than they put in) – then they deserve to be cast out alone and deal with the consequences alone – and there’s no ‘freedom’ in that outcome.

          • johnbronkhorst

            BOLLOCKS…society is a fluid collection of individuals acting as such under the forces of cause and effect. We bounce against, rub up against each other to form an amalgamous unit, not too different, but more sofistacated than a school of fish!

      • Andy C

        That’s right Rebecca – but get ready for an onslaught of irrational frothing at your rational conclusion.

        Just yesterday I read a recently published German study which showed that consuming 1 small fizzy drink per day increases the likelihood of type 2 diabetes by 20%. twenty-fucking-percent!!!

        It is a little hard for those that are not up with the play to appreciate just how much the health system is fully packing themselves about type 2 diabetes. They are desperate to do *anything* to avoid the costs. Rational really.

        • Rebecca

          Andy, thanks. FWIW there are good Commonwealth Institute papers about the costs of poor choices on healthcare budgets. From memory: smoking causes the biggest costs up to about the age of 50 (stand to be corrected) after which obesity takes over. The reason? Because the smokers begin to die. The obese linger on, consuming most healthcare services in their last few years of life. So if people want to adopt an unhealthy vice it’s better for the community if they choose smoking and remove themselves from the equation. These seem like cold-blooded discussions, but the community is going to
          have rationing rubbed in its face if we continue as we are. Might as well hear it first on the WO blog!

          • tarkwin

            We live in a welfare state where the state looks after those who cannot support themselves. I’m comfortable with this. When you start telling people how to live you are promoting socialism. Who decides what is bad? Should we tax pie makers, soft drink makers, motorbike makers? Where do we stop? I prefer freedom to the Labour / Green manifesto I’ve just written. It may cost a bit, but even freedom isn’t free.

          • Rebecca

            The reaction to Obesity is not a knee-jerk response, or as trivial as taxing a pie maker. Google “diabetes epidemic” and consider that parts of Auckland already have a 10% diabetes rate with a far higher % having pre-diabetes. If you can reach the pre-diabetics in time, you might save the community as much as a billion $ a year. That’s the math causing people to allocate $ to lifestyle campaigns. Best response is not to be jealous or to think of this as an impingement on freedom, it’s an attempt to prevent a billion $ a year being diverted from our parents and us in turn because huge chunks of population are experiencing preventable illness.
            But I also agree with WO about troughers. There are far too many. However, even if 50% of the $ gets gobbled by troughers, if the rest goes to competent people who reach 50% of the target and save only $500M per year then it’s still the best $100M you’d ever hope to spend. Meanwhile you can rely on WO to ferret out the troughers for our viewing pleasure!

          • mike

            So what about vegans? They are starving their bodies of necessary vitamins and minerals, but eating healthy foods… are they a burden on the health system?

          • Rebecca

            AFAIK there’s no stats saying vegans are a burden. The associations with obesity are much clearer.

          • tarkwin

            According to John Campbell and Meridian 25% of our school children are starving and can’t afford a raincoat or shoes, yet they can afford pies and coke.(The Four Square down the road from us does a roaring trade in the mornings) If benefits were paid in vouchers we could put a stop to this and reduce diabetes at the same time. That is targeted spending not socialism and the good news is I didn’t need a government hand out to think that up!

          • Andy C

            Vouchers would only work if they come with a list of what you can and cannot buy. And if that happens JBH’s frothing will reach fission levels, explode, and kill us all.

          • tarkwin

            Relax Andy, if you wear a tin foil hat like me you’ll be alright.

          • Honcho

            If its money he was worked for and paid his share of tax on, he should bloody well be able to spend it on what ever he wants.

          • Bunswalla

            That’s a hundred times more prescriptive and nanny-stateish than encouraging good behaviour. Bit ironic, mate.

          • tarkwin

            True Buns, hopefully I’m not becoming a socialist. I just get sick of seeing grossly overweight beneficiaries who have no interest in doing anything about their predicament. They see the benefit as a lifestyle choice not a short term hand up. The benefit is not compulsory. As I said, it should be targeted spending. I’ve never been on a benefit but I would have no problem modifying my behaviour to comply. The dole wouldn’t even cover my drinks bill a week so hopefully this won’t happen.

          • Andy C

            The diabetes epidemic is here, right now, and its getting worse. And its gonna cost us at a rate you simply cannot imagine unless you have seen the projections.

            You can play the blame game or freedom game or political viewpoint game all you want, but none of that’s gonna stop your wallet being raped. Prevention is your only hope.

          • tarkwin

            Read my comment below.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Epidemics are diseases that we catch, foreign organisms that invade our bodies, which we have little control over!!!
            diabetes is a conciquence of YOUR actions!!!

          • Andy C

            /nitpick

            “that we catch…”

            Except, it isn’t. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemic

          • Bunswalla

            Tarkwin with respect that’s an over-simplification. Apart from laws, the state does have a duty to educate and inform its citizens about things that adversely affect them, and the state – this is nothing to do with socialism and even in capitalist countries you’ll find the exact same thing. A few examples that don’t seem to start the likes of JBH frothing at the gash:
            – promoting smokefree workplaces, cars, houses etc
            – warning against too much alcohol in pregnancy
            – enforcing labelling of food so people know what they’re eating
            – labelling the number of standard drinks on a bottle so you hopefully don’t get too pissed to drive
            – sex education in schools

            Taking the politics and perceived troughing out of it, I’m acutely aware of the incredible amounts of sugar consumed by kiwis and how that can lead to Type 2 diabetes – and when I say acutely I mean exactly that. My Dr explained to me that this was a journey I did not want to take, and since then I’ve managed to remove as much sugar from my diet as possible, and my indicators are back to normal.

            We do eat WAY too much sugar. It does lead to obesity and a range of expensive and deadly health complications including Type 2 diabetes. The stats show these issue are growing exponentially. People need to be made aware of the issues and encouraged to find solutions.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Public service information is very different to TELLING people what to do and how to act!!!

          • Rebecca

            Just curious… do you stop at red traffic lights?

            Society only functions if people accept limits in some things. We stop at red lights to increase the likelihood that everybody will get home in a timely fashion. And so it goes on.

            Now the healthcare system is threatened by a preventable epidemic and they propose lifestyle campaigns- and some people explode in fury as if it’s the worst imposition ever. Not logical.

          • RightOfGenghis

            Do you think we should be made to wear seatbelts Rebecca?

          • BJ

            Come on John I thought we were all grown ups here. Last time I checked – a story gets told, an employee gets told and laws are ‘telling’ but anything else is just information. How you receive that information, add it to your experience and put it together with your own ideas is up to you – but don’t kill the messenger unless they are actually shoving it down your throat.

          • tarkwin

            Agree Buns, working and financial worry keep me thin!

          • dyannt

            “My Dr explained to me”
            There we go then. Problem solved.
            There needs to be a compulsory doctors visit annually to educate the unwise overeaters of sugar. At the body owners expense of course.
            Give them a few tests and shock the hell out of them.

          • Andy C

            So effectively legislate for an additional tax on everybody?

          • dyannt

            Yeah. Why not?

        • dyannt

          “Just yesterday I read”
          Now there, Andy, is the clue.
          How are you proposing to educate people who don’t read (and there seems to be getting less of them every year)
          They’re the ones who don’t go to seminars either, or to training courses or watch educational TV (they probably mute the TV ads too).
          Perhaps you would make it compulsory for them to be educated before they get any further medical treatment – or it’s part of their treatment. (Of course that would mean employing more Govt. suppliers to provide the educating. As if we didn’t have enough already.)

          I don’t have any answers that would work. Ban something and the dedicated will find a way around the ban.

          Perhaps having a “sugar” card that only allows a certain amount of sugar to be swiped through the supermarket checkout per month would be a start.
          Of course, in my view, as a society we have been allowing do-gooders to support the needy for too long without any complementary training on how to get the ‘needies’ to stand on their own two feet.

      • Patrick

        obese catchments – very apt description of Cat-Pause’s gynaecological department

      • Muffin

        cant they just do what they do with smokers? If you come in fat as a tub of lard and need a scan due to something, send them off and tell them to loose weight and come back in, they do it to smokers, why not the fatties

        • johnbronkhorst

          They do that already!!!
          Obese people can’t get elective surgery until they lose weight!!!

          • Andy C

            I would hate to see the state of your “!” key JBH, that dude’s gotta be hurting…

          • BJ

            I’m more concerned for his blood pressure ( I can advise some remedies) – he’s seems to be very agitated and is doing a lot of YELLING!

          • johnbronkhorst

            120 over 80, heart rate 75, not changed in 30 years!!
            Bench press 100Kg 3 sets of 8
            Any other health info you would like!!???

          • Muffin

            so whats the problem, let people eat what they want, but if your too fat/smoke etc you dont get the health care you might need

          • johnbronkhorst

            exactly, cause and effect…personal responsibility!!!

          • Andy C

            I disagree Muffin, but that’s not what I am going to address.

            The smoking one makes sense cause everyone knows smoking is bad, right? Except 40 years ago we didn’t. Then medical studies came out and public education got underway, and now we all know that smoking fags is probably going to get you one way or another.

            So public education is a good thing, surely?

          • johnbronkhorst

            Smoking fags, has been know to be harmfull since WW2. Soldiers even joked about it!!!

          • BJ

            Yes If the education can be delivered in ways that different groups in society can understand. An ignorant mechanic might grasp the trouble with sugar for the body, if the insulin pump in relation to his body’s metabolism was likend to engine components, lubricants and combustion. Creative ways of educating that don’t make people like JBH get defensive, is what is needed.

          • Muffin

            If you think being a great big fatty isn’t bad for you then you have rocks in your head. I’ve never met anyone that thinks being fat isn’t having some effect on their health or well being.

      • mike

        So you would punish those of us who see soft drinks and fast food as a once in a while treat by increasing the costs because some people are stupid?

        • Andy C

          Mike, you’re gonna pay one way or the other. And if the health system collapses under the strain you may wish you’d taken the upfront cost option.

        • Rebecca

          Punish? All I can see is a targeted lifestyle change proposal. For the rest of us it’s a bargain to pay the right people to reach their brethren… since you only need to keep diabetes at bay for 40 people and you’ve paid for a $100M program.
          Regarding taxing soda pop: I never advocated that, but another poster mentioned evidence that one small soda per day increases the risk of Type II Diabetes by 20%. Since that 20% risk is for millions of dollars in extra healthcare costs, an underwriter would request a premium of thousands of dollars annually to cover that sort of risk. Currently society is punished by having to cover all that exposure for soda drinkers, so those who say they take responsibility for their choices should be happy to take on their own premium. If you’re drinking one small cup per day, maybe $5/cup would cover the premium.

          • dyannt

            Excuse me Rebecca if I’m misunderstanding what you wrote…

            I like the idea of privately targeting people to create change in behaviour, like through higher insurance premiums but ….
            the really obese people I see don’t look like they fall into the category of having life insurance.

          • mike

            I have a can of coke maybe once a week, it costs about $1.50. If it raises to $2 or $3 then I see myself as being punished because some people are too stupid to realise it’s not a suitable substitute for a glass of water.

            And I’d hold back on the research there skippy… any chance it was conducted by a biased group?

          • Rebecca

            Skippy?

            The research I quoted is from the Commonwealth Fund. Biased? Republicans who “know” that the US Healthcare system is the best in the world think the Commonwealth Fund is biased- because it keeps ripping a new one for the US Health system. In this case their stats about smoking and obesity are not disputed: obesity and smoking shortens lives and adds to healthcare costs, period. So if insurers are allowed to charge more because you’re obese and if people can’t emigrate because of the burden they’ll impose on the health system, seems reasonable enough to recover at least some of the resulting costs when the purchase decision is made.

  • Hillary Green

    It never ceases to amaze me that this Government continues to hand out millions of public money to small groups that then lobby the govt. Tony Ryall oversees a massive ministry that get’s over $6 billion from the budget each year. I suppose to him a hundred million here and there isn’t anything to be too worried about! All this does is undermine my faith that National actually knows what’s really going on deep within the ministry workings. It’s not good enough.

    • LionKing

      Don’t expect Tony Ryall to do anything. He’s too busy working out new shirt and tie combinations to worry about some piss-ant NGO tucking the Ministry of Health out of a few hundred grand here and there.

      Even that useless Tariana Turia that believes the only answer to Maori health problems is to chuck millions (of course not her money) into whanau ora – that Winston says pays criminal gangs and for families to have state funded picnics. What a fucking joke.

      • Whanau Ora was the price National Paid for confidence and supply for another three years.

  • LionKing

    Ahh that dirty old Shane Bradbrood Maori trougher appears again. That was such a good yarn and Gotcha that WO should do it again with these troughers. Looks like a merry-go-round of troughers leaping on for the ride thanks to tax payers paying the govt their hard earned dosh.

  • DLM

    Yet more troughers exposed – WO should have a “Trougher of the Year” award. From what you highlight, some dodgy academic will probably be in line for the prize.

  • kevin

    Not overlooking the fact that someone has to be paid (plenty no doubt) to design these nifty logos…

  • In Vino Veritas

    No Government in history has been able to legislate for peoples stupidity, because that stupidity is a moving target that morphs into something new daily. Stupid people should have to suffer the consequences of their actions, not be protected from them.

    • johnbronkhorst

      What also changes (apart from the peoples stupidity and what they are stupid about) is the definition of stupidity.
      eg Today it is soft drinks, to stay on the food subject, about 20-30 years ago some pilloch told everyone coffee caused cancer (after feeding rats 20000 equivalent cups a day in tablet form).
      At one point aspestos was the wonder fire retardant building material.
      etc etc etc
      We learn and adjust our selves. I don’t want some other idiot telling me how to live or what the definition of living is!!!

  • Happy taxpayer

    Had a read through the reports about Te Reo Marama. Actually it seems like a good organisation. As a taxpayer, I am happy to fund this kind of thing. If he travels overseas to conferences to share and learn about how smoking and tobacco affects people in other countries, well, that’s a good thing really.

    • johnbronkhorst

      Really??? Traveling on the taxpayer tit. When he could conference call, use You tube etc BTW are human being different in other countries than here, to such an extent that smoking effects them differently to us??? NO didn’t think so.
      Good spend of taxpayer money…..NO!!!

    • LionKing

      WTF – cleary you must be a fellow trougher. The guy was a complete fraud and traveled extensively on the backs of NZ taxpayers taking the piss. He should actually pay the money back, along with his board who oversaw and approved all the spending and junkets. It’s not wonder the MOH launched an investigation into him which saw the funding cut. Good on WO for exposing all of this. Suggest you read the details.

  • BJ

    The mentality of tax-payer funded organisations in the name of important public health issues needs to change. They seem to have a perception that the funding is to satisfy their justification for spending ‘the loot’ on much needed getting from point A to B and educating themselves on topics. It’s’ all wrong – funding should go to groups that have the collective knowledge and information and have a plan to put that funding directly into action for the purpose it was intended – to make a difference to a societal issue directly.

    What worth have we got out of this Shane Kawenata Bradbrook – what has he actually done to make a difference?

  • David Broome

    531 people commit suicide in NZ every year largely down to mental health being under funded then i read this. What the hell is this country on? Look, i am thick set, yes, but i am classeed offificially as ‘obese’. When i tell that to people they laugh and having met WO, he would be similarly classed despite the gym work, which begs this question – are we creating our own ‘epidemic statistics’ for these troughers to chow down on? BTW more people commit suicide than the road, drowning & workplace tolls combined. Now that is a disgrace so where the hell are these universities and their Fiss on that?

    • johnbronkhorst

      I know a guy, lectures in physical fitness, is a power lifter, not any fat on him. He is 115Kg and 1.8m tall…he had to take his insurance Co. to court to get coverage, because they said he was obese!!

      • mike

        Yep, by definition all the All Blacks are obese…

  • Bob Murphy

    Should be FI$$….. Fleecing Income tax Dollars.

  • Steve (North Shore)

    Shane Bradbrook, yeeeeess. I remember a photo of him on a junket to the Taj Mahal India to study the effects of smoking tobacco.
    I gave up smoking, but not because of that troughing cork soaker

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