Bye bye Shane and Andy, Labour’s man ban will axe Cunner’s opponents

Shane Jones stands to lose big time as Labour has voted to introduce their man ban.

Audrey Young writes at the NZ Herald:

Labour leader David Cunliffe says it won’t be very hard for Labour to reach its newly adopted target of at least 45 per cent women MPs after next year’s election and at least 50 per cent women after the 2017 election.

“I don’t think it’s going to be too difficult knowing the calibre of the women candidates and nominees that we have around and the fact that our vote share is likely to be significantly higher this time than it was last time,” he said today.

“There won’t be difficulty at all for us to reach 45 this time and I’m confident we’ll reach 50 next time – I will be personally backing it.”

The constitutional motion adopting the targets was passed in a closed session debate today at the party’s annual conference at Wigram.

It has become the party’s main vehicle for achieving gender equality in representation after a controversial remit allowing some regions to have women-only selections for candidates was withdrawn by the New Zealand Council at the request of former leader David Shearer.

Party president Moira Coatsworth told reporters the way the party would try to achieve the targets was through the list ranking process of the moderating committee, after it had made an assessment of which electorate seats it thought it could win. 

David Farrar pointed some time back that the man ban will see the end of a number of proper blokes.

First are the current male List MPs. Basically they’re outski. Little, Jones and maybe even Cosgrove are gone. If O’Connor doesn’t hold his seat he could be gone also.

The other losers are new male candidates. The message is that there is no chance of a winnable list spot if they are male.

Labour holds 22 electorate seats. If a male replaces Dalziel, then 15 electorate MPs are male and seven are female. That means the top eight places on the list must be reserved for women. [WO: Labour selected a woman to replace Dalziel]

This will make it harder for male candidates not just to get into Parliament but also to win electorate seats, as to win a seat off the other party often needs a two or three term strategy where you come in as a List MP, and then use that to build up profile so you can win the seat itself the next election.

This makes it very interesting for Andrew Little. If either Robertson or Cunliffe win, he may end up being out of Parliament under their quota policies. So who will he support? Could Jones pick up vote in caucus by pointing out to the male List MPs that many of them are goners if the other two win?

Andrew Little and Shane Jones may as well pack their bags…they have no chance of winning an electorate seat and the man ban means their list rankings will end their careers.

Perhaps they could go off and form a party with another in the same position…Stuart Nash…though he will probably win Napier now.

Source: NZ Herald, quality reporting from Audrey Young, additional snarky comments by Cam Slater.


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  • Time For Accountability

    This is labour thumbing their noses at voters who want the best candidate.

    Stuff voters – we will override their desires by post jigging the election result.

    A key part of the list vote is to try and get the likely lower list members in.

    This is utter contempt for voters.

  • Statehousekid

    Shane Jones was the only man with the ability to capture the vote of the common man. Labour would be fools to loose him.

    • Agent BallSack

      Yeah Jones is the most voteable out of a sad sorry bunch.

    • AnonWgtn

      National should put Shane on their list.

      • Statehousekid

        Yeah I never thought of that he would fit in very well.

  • Muffin

    I just don’t care what stupid things they get up to as long as they never get into power again.

  • Kimbo

    That’s an interesting business model. These guys go to great lengths to fail. At least finally they are admitting that theyre a bunch of bitches to bull lesbians.

  • Pete

    “I don’t think it’s going to be too difficult knowing the calibre of the women candidates and nominees that we have around and the fact that our vote share is likely to be significantly higher this time than it was last time,” he said today.

    Re What has the calibre got to do with anything???

    I guess there is a bright side to all of this tho, the unwanted male Mp’s could apply for teaching jobs, because I’m sure Labour will want to make sure “fairness” and “equality’ in the teaching ranks eh!

  • The Man-Ban is going down a treat on Stuff’s poll; not. Go here to vote –

    • Agent BallSack

      Since Labour are always scouting for minorities to champion and a minority of the public agree with it my guess is it will be policy before years end. All joking aside, when a policy gets a ‘name’ (manban), step aside its already taken on the persona of a Damocles sword.

      • Just heard a bloke on Sean Plunket’s show put this issue in a nutshell; something along the lines of this:

        So if Labour stands a woman in my electorate, how can I know that she is qualified or experienced, or that she is just there to make up the numbers?

        This is an own goal for Labour, and it is one entirely of the party’s own making.

        • Agent BallSack

          Same could be asked about everyone in Ohariu especially Gareth Fucking Hughes.

  • Daniel

    A pity Labour don’t consider female candidates can be selected based on their merit. Quite an outdated sexist view in my opinion. I would think they’d be better encouraging the best person for the job, who may be a woman, to stand so they can be selected.

    It also means seat for seat on average National candidates will be better able and more competent politicians (since, presumably the best National candidate will have been selected) so I’m not sure Labour have really thought this through.

    • BJ

      If Labour spent their time on promoting better social outcomes for men-women relationships in general they’d be representing women far better than just electing one to their Party

  • philbest

    “…..Perhaps they could go off and form a party with another in the same position…..”

    It is high time someone started a “Labour” party that actually did represent the working classes, rather than the bludgers and the rainbow coalition.

    • Sponge

      NewLabour perhaps?

  • ozbob68

    Question: If they field this type of policy and the (assumedly) lesser quality of candidate, won’t they harpoon their chances of becoming a government? (And is this a bad thing?) Or do we think this could be a populist appeal to the undecided?

    • Agent BallSack

      It’s like the All Blacks dumping their current squad and only selecting people related to the administration. Or in Labours case the wheel blacks. No offense to crippled people intended.

  • OhopeBeachBugger

    I wonder how men feel about this, and what proportion of voters are men? Most of the women I know aren’t too interested in politics, including my wife. She’s probably put off by my constant ranting, though…

  • Toryboy

    The only thing which would have saved Jones, Little and Cosgrove was Nash replacing Robertson (no, the other one – Manukau East); if they select a woman in Manukau East that would have kept the quota intact.

    However, if Nash wins then it is still curtains for those three wankers unless there is ‘real’ blood on the floor and Mallard or Goff or Shearer are ditched and replaced by women.

  • nudgy

    Stupid Cunny had a chance to get rid of the “Man Ban” albatross but its now firmly placed around his neck until the next election. They must be laughing their socks off at National HQ!

  • In Vino Veritas

    Calibre of candidates and nominees? I’m sorry, but if the best are already there (that’d be Adern, Fenton, Moroney, Beaumont, Mahuta, Street, Curran et al) then any other candidates and nominees cannot be up to much. David Cunliffe is pulling our leg, surely?

    • Agent BallSack

      I am all for it if they dump everyone of those names you just mentioned

  • Clemgeopin

    This gender quota policy is very stupid, discriminatory and ill thought out. The candidates should be chosen purely on MERIT and not based on gender, race, colour, creed, sex orientation, disability etc. It should not matter if 100% of the elected candidates are male or 100% are indeed female or gay as long as they are voted in based on merit. The sort of gender quota proposed is a downward unfair slippery slope. I would have thought that the party members would have taken a saner decision and drop this crap PC system. What will they do if they find themselves with 75% female MPs and 25% others? Change the rules again to bring the so called ‘balance’?

    Ah, the teaching and nursing government jobs are overwhelmingly held by women now. Based on this Labour party philosophy, when is the QUOTA system coming to those professions?

    • Agent BallSack

      See my below post. At least half the caucus will be women.

  • Never in the dark…..

    Chickenshit, why not make a clear 50%?

  • cows4me

    Are there any real men in Labia? God they must be soft cocked wonders. How they can sit there day after day and listen to this insane bullshit is beyond me. What’s wrong with these guys, have these butch dykes put rubber rings on their nuts. I guess they aren’t out to serve the public, if they did they would be calling for candidates to stand on their own merits. No I’m picking they are just there to pick up the big salary and wallow in the trough. Useless fuckers the whole lot of them.

    • Dave

      Yes C4M, there are real men, there is, um, er, hmmm, mallard, no, poof Robertson, no, porno Jones, no, hasbeen Goff, no, in fact has there EVER been any real men in labour? Maybe the real man ban has been there for decades, just never spoken of.

  • Agent BallSack


    Mr Cunliffe said Labour was “moving towards normality” by adopting a quota for women.

    “Women have at least half the talent. They are going to have at least half the places on the list and we’re going to have a stronger, better caucus for it.”

    So now women are more talented than men. He says it himself and they are going to have at least half the places.

    • BJ

      So he’s hardout promoting himself as ‘a ladies man’ – can’t see it myself but he could always take lessons from Len

  • Agent BallSack

    This is PC bullshit dreamed up by a bunch of wrinkled old hags who have no fucking idea how Helen did it. Helen wouldnt have a bar of someone who was not the best person for the job and she sure as fuck wouldnt have survived if she didnt.

  • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    My spies have texted me saying Chicken Little and Pornsy Jonesy are considering sex change operations…..

    • Agent BallSack


      • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

        Even the shameless Sheep, who stopped the man ban last time, says he supports it now…shameless bunch of maniacs….

  • Lion_ess

    A Political Party of she-men and he-woman with “Kiwi-Everything” policies, isn’t going to take out the 2014 general election. Labour should be applauded for adopting as future policy,their self-destruction plans. Labour 2014? It ain’t going to happen.

  • steve and monique

    Would have thought anything with a penis would not be safe in Labour. What with the hairy leg, fugly brigade passing themselves off as women there now.

  • Apolonia

    Boundary changes will make it harder for Nash.

  • LesleyNZ

    The Labour Party is just dumb and stupid. Can’t believe they would go down this track again and support it. They must like wandering in the wilderness.

  • Alfred12

    I’m ecstatic, best news I have seen of late. Middle NZ will never accept this bullshit, JK & the Nat team must be pissing themselves!! The Stuff poll says it all and what about the other gem announced last week, compulsory Te Reo în all schools. Just beautiful..keep it up Labia, love your work!!