More bad news for Obama’s anti gun statisticians

The Worlds Best Gun Salesman won’t like this study, it doesn’t fit in with his agenda. Piers Morgan probably won’t like it much either, but then he has an answer for everything. Even when Brett Lee gives him a couple of broken ribs.

In what will certainly be gun control advocates’ new least favorite study, Quinnipiac University’s Mark Gius found not only that states with restrictive concealed weapons laws had higher gun-related murder rates, but that assault weapons bans had no significant impact on murder rates at the state level.

The study by economist Mark Gius, published in Applied Economics Letters, sought to “determine the effects of state-level assault weapons bans and concealed weapons laws on state murder rates,” using extensive data from a thirty-year period, 1980-2009. In the abstract for the study, Gius sums up the findings:

Using data for the period 1980 to 2009 and controlling for state and year fixed effects, the results of the present study suggest that states with restrictions on the carrying of concealed weapons had higher gun-related murder rates than other states. It was also found that assault weapons bans did not significantly affect murder rates at the state level. These results suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an increase in gun-related murders at the state level.

Gius notes that these results are consistent with previous research, specifically citing the work by John R. Lott and David B. Mustard.

No matter how much the screaming anti gun scaremongers want to have you think differently, this just solidifies that concealed carry is one of the best forms of deterrence. Fortunately it is not something that is needed in NZ, yet.



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  • Custard

    Nothing surprising in this. Considering we (the world) usually only hear about the big massacres, usually involving automatic guns, there is nothing about the “grassroots” statistics in the less affluent areas. Gang shootings etc don’t usually involve anti aircraft weapons but small caliber hand guns. But that’s nowhere near exciting enough that some black guy was shot in Compton if some blond blue eyes girls was killed by a maniac. Morbid reality.

  • Mr_Blobby

    Some people love guns, some people hate guns.So don’t let a few inconvenient statistics get in the way.

    You wont get around some peoples irrational fear. Most of the anti gun rhetoric is so inaccurate that it is laughable.

    • cows4me

      In the main Mr_Blobby I don’t believe it’s the fear of guns that drive the anti gun agenda. Sure some people hate guns, no problem they are not forced to own one. The real issue is a belief the state sets the laws, whether popular or not. These laws and those that enforce them should never be challenged nor should there be any fear that they are. Our leaders and their organs of the state are the gun fearers, long may this continue. Obummer is a Marxist want to be, the right to bare arms is a common sense policy. There are now many in NZ ( mostly foreign imports) that don’t like the fact that NZ has a heavily armed population, they are trying to introduce their liberal poison here, make no mistake, a disarmed population is their wet dream.

      • snakebit

        Well said.

  • timemagazine

    I hope bad news will get from bad to worst this year. Happy new year, comrade.

  • Dex
  • Kopua Cowboy

    The essential facts of this debate remain unchanged: less restrictive gun laws lead to fewer gun problems in society.

    • Dex

      In opposite land maybe. If you have a heavily armed populace you will also have a heavily armed criminal populace, hence why states like Texas have such a high firearm crime and homicide rate. If there were any truth in your claim, the opposite would be true.

      • Yet you offer no support for your own claim —-> LOL

      • You might want to back up your own claim first. Texas was well behind California in gun related deaths in 2011, 699 compared to Californias 1220.

        That 699 accounted for only 64% of total murders in Texas (26 million people) in 2011. So looks like we’ll have to ban alot of other weapons, hands and feet too.

  • The study was done by Mark Gius, not Lott. He cited his work, saying it was consistent with what he has done (as well as David B. Mustard who you conveniently leave out) . Doesn’t make Gius work incorrect or flawed merely by association of citation.

    You upvoted your own comment too, speaking of exposing frauds……

  • Jimbob

    The right to bear arms was correct but only for its time and place. Civilisation with its attendant laws and protections has in the main taken over this need. Except most obviously in the US. The horse seems to have bolted there which makes the above study irrelevant as the only way to disarm and reduce the murder rates is by generational change. Does anyone truly believe that arming an entire population in this day and age is desirable? Make it uncool to own a gun for the kids coming through is the only way.