Jones unrepentant, keeps on kicking Greens

David Cunliffe probably thought last week was going to be his low point.

Now we are getting a peek behind the curtains on what a Labour/Green government would look like, it’s a constant theme that the Greens are a huge turn off for potential Labour voters which Jones clearly grasps.

For a point of reference you should have a look at what the ousted Labour politicians from Tasmania are saying about their time with Green coalition partner.

in the meantime we get to enjoy Shane Jones kicking the Greens in the cods.

Labour MP Shane Jones says Greens are too thin-skinned after the party laid a complaint about his attack on one its MPs.

Greens’ head of staff Ken Spagnolo said he had raised Mr Jones’ comments with Labour head of staff Matt McCarten. 

Mr Spagnolo said it was not a formal complaint, but he had told Labour that Mr Jones’ comments about Greens’ fitness to govern were “unhelpful”.

Mr Jones, Labour’s economic development spokesman, had criticised Green MP Gareth Hughes on Radio Waatea for “carrying on like a mollyhawk” in his opposition to offshore mining.

The comments earned him a telling off from leader David Cunliffe, who said that the comments about a potential coalition partner were inappropriate.

Mr Jones was unrepentant this afternoon.

“Is this the same Green Party that complains of Colin Craig being too thin-skinned?” he said.

“I’m from Kaitaia. I know it’s mollyhawk in the north. Further down the line it’s mollymawk. Now I could’ve got my names wrong but people should just loosen up.

“The thought that it’s led to a complaint, I’ll just leave the public to judge that for what it is.”


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  • Blokeintakapuna

    Jones shouldn’t call a lame turkey a mollyhawk – it’s an insult to mollyhawks…

  • opusx

    I am scarily starting to like the jib of that man Jones.

    • roxo

      I agree – maybe its because he is everything Cunliffe isn’t. Real for a start!

  • James

    Can somebody please explain why the Nats haven’t approached Jones to cross the floor? The right of the Labour party overlaps quite significantly with the left of the Nats so he wouldn’t feel out of place; and at the moment he is the only person who is keeping Labour relevant.

    • mike

      Because they want him where he his, causing dissent in the ranks is helping National in the polls.

    • DavidW

      James, Would you really expect it to be shouted out if they had?

    • Sym Gardiner

      Shane is a loose cannon and would end up doing an Aaron Gilmore if he came across to the Nats.

      • peterwn

        Agreed. Shane would be better off with NZ First. This is a pity, since if his attitude was a bit different he would be a valuable National MP if he chose to Waka hop.

    • Blokeintakapuna

      Timing? Maybe wait until about 6 weeks out from election date = maximum collateral damage to Labour…

      • rantykiwi

        Wait until 6 weeks after the election….. when he jumps to being an independent supporting National on confidence and supply.

    • MarcWills

      Two words… Bill Liu (or substitute any other words you make up).

  • conwaycaptain

    Well done Shane. Kick first, kick hard and keep on kicking!!!
    A coalition of Labour, Greens and NZ First would result in a blood fest

    • Grandstream

      Auntie Helen knew that very well. She knew that green in Govt would have been a disaster for her and the Labour party.

      • Agent Balzac

        She also wouldn’t brook people talking out of class. But woe betide you if you were called to the headmasters office.

  • Grandstream

    Shane Jones taking fight to the Greens and the voters.
    Cuntliffes response – settle down tiger, dont upset our only means of becoming the Government. Either next poll will show move to Labour from green voters, or Cuntliffe will do a Damien O’Connor on Jones…….

    • Blueballs

      Careful Grandstream, Pete will reduce you to a wee trickle with that language.

  • Cowgirl

    For all their love of nature and wanting to be “one” with it, I reckon when the zombie apocalypse comes, the Greens will be the first to kark it. How they ever thought they would cut it in politics is beyond me – what a pack of cry babies.

    • Blokeintakapuna

      Since you mention it – WTF is it with the “zombie’s” everywhere?

      Ever since that Michael Jackson video…

      • Cowgirl

        Beats me – I don’t get the zombie thing since I think they look laughable and can be easily outrun.
        There’s an interesting article on I think that explains a correlation between whoever is in the White House with the proliferation of either Vampire (Democrat) or Zombie (Republican) themes in popular culture.
        Of course this is now completely debunked by having Obama in power and still zombie stuff everywhere.

  • maninblack

    the greens really should be on about 2 or 3%. Whats with all the delusional loons in this country.

    • Boss Hogg

      And NZ First should be on ZERO

    • STAG

      Uneducated radical fringe, there’s only 4.4 million of use and we always seem to be over endowed with a disproportionate “fringe” of tossers who want to live in a happy clappy fantasy land where no one ever says anything mean ir rude ir even off colour.

    • OT Richter

      Simple – people still believe in the ‘old’ Greens, and haven’t worked out that Norman has taken the party in a different direction.

  • austenpub

    As if further proof was needed, Cunnlife shows he doesn’t have the first clue about leadership – NEVER criticise a “subordinate” (colleague) in public. Praise in public.
    Leadership 101. His public rebuke (criticism) of Shane Jones will lower his regard by others yet again.

    • Reid

      He’s a politician not a coach or a business manager. Different rules apply. He’s playing over the political heads to the public. The real question is: why.

      • austenpub

        Leadership 101 is generic. If Cunnlife criticises his fellow party members in public they and others will loath him. Most already do. It just shows Cunnlife has no clue in how to behave as a leader of a party, country or even a scout troop. He is just so unsuited for the position he now holds – he has no experience as a leader in any capacity shown in his CV. Expect further alienation.

    • CheesyEarWax

      If Cunny has any clue he would jump on the Jones bandwagon and gain some good exposure and votes that is badly needed.

      • Boss Hogg

        Cunny can not appoint Matt the communist and then back Shane Jones. Although Cunny being what he is, who knows.

        Do you think Shane and Matt are “on the same page”? Shane is now certainly in the wrong camp.

        • CheesyEarWax

          Jones represent a Labour I would vote for, not the current Labour pandering to the Greens. One thing Labour, and Cunny, can learn from Jones in the last few weeks is his ability to stand on his own and be heard for the right reasons.

    • Blueballs

      In this case i think you’re right, only because cunliffe doesn’t do the firm chastising leader very well, as always he ends up looking like a cheese ball. A real leader can pull this off with ease.

      • Agent Balzac

        Problem is there’s no seats left in the naughty corner. Half of chorus are there doing their ABC’s

    • MarcWills

      Yes indeed, compare Cunliffe’s response to that of John Key’s related to Judith Collins.

  • john Doe

    We always joked when our local rubbish dump closed as to where the mollyhawks would go. Now i’m starting to get the picture.

  • Agent Balzac

    I think it’s obvious Shane is flipping the bird at Cunny. Cunliffe can’t control a real man because he’s never met one face to face until now. Wonder how many numbers Shane has after the last couple of weeks pie meet face oops my foot is in my mouth moments.

  • Ghost

    Anyone else noted that when Colin Craig wants to go them for calling him a homophobic misogynist, they say harden up, its freedom of speech, but when someone refers to the rat faced gimp as a Mollyhawk, they lodge a complaint.. Duplicitous arseholes

  • oldmanNZ

    what a mollyhawk? theres a Harrier, an Autsralasian hawk, magpie, falcon, and moreporks.

    but whats a mollyhawk mean?

  • Arnie

    The greens getting their feathers ruffled again, don’t throw stones in glass houses Russell. Toughen up.

  • Alloytoo

    Norman’s mistake was to fire a broadside at Craig. It was a pointless exercise (which Craig seems to be winning) and it’s shredded his cloak of self righteous sanctimony.

  • BassilFawlty

    Matt is doing a great job in pulling the party into line, Jones is laughing in his face. Cunners must be wondering what he got himself into. They definitely need more girls, wussel?

  • Pissedoffyouth

    ” Mr Jones’ comments about Greens’ fitness to govern were “unhelpful”.”

    The comments the Greens make about John Key constantly border on unhelpful

    • Alloytoo

      Pretty much every Greens comment about anything are “unhelpful”

  • Pissedoffyouth

    As much as I dislike Gareth, his response was quite reasonable – he laughed it off as he should have.

    • Agent Balzac

      He’s been here and he knows Mollyhawk is tame compared to lying rat faced weasel with dubious parentage. Or anything prior to Monday.

  • Sally

    Jones likes grandstanding.

    • Rather too much.
      It seems that Maori oratory is more about how the message is delivered than its actual content.
      Pity, really!

      • You mean, like Obama?

  • Dick Brown

    Love me a bit of Shane Jones in the morning; top stuff!

  • Andy

    Norman played the “he doesn’t care about the environment” card. Bit of a Godwin variant, that one

    • Alloytoo

      Jones should reply with a Maori card.

      • rangitoto

        Yep greens are just being racist.:)

  • alien

    it’s obvious the distaste in labour is at the point that they have given Jones a license to do what he has to do. btw start to watch paid labour and greens articles turning up in the media under the pretence of concerned people.

    • Mrs_Random

      If Labour and Green supporters are getting paid to write to the media to have a whinge, then National should pay me to write to the media as a concerned person highlighting all the evils I believe will be bestowed upon us if Greens/ Labour were to get in. Forget that idea, heck I will write for free, no enticement required.

  • Monty

    Russel Norman is a stroppy egotistical arrogant petal. I hope he remains the leader of the greens. So far he has not really had the scrutiny of his personality applied to the blowtorch, but there are so many signs that he will be dangerous in Government. For starters I think it will be fun to watch the clash of the personality and ego between Norman and Cunliffe. Could any government survive that? Add into the mix the ego of Winston and the explosion will be nothing less than fantastic viewing. All three parties will be damaged beyond repair.

    • sheppy

      Its such a pity that we all will have to suffer the economic consequences whilst its going on just to see the end of them and their egos.

    • BG

      Notwithstanding that if (and big if) Russell and David are running the country, then they’ll need Winston, who has a pathological hatred of the Greens.

      Oh to be a fly on the wall with those three in a room together.

      • roxo

        Would be fun to arrange a leaders debate with these 3 and then throw some contentious issues in and shed the excreta hit the fan!

    • Mr_Blobby

      Laugh it up Monty, but remember who will have to pay the piper. Wussels idea to just print it, wont work.

  • Time For Accountability

    Jones looks like he is setting up a fight he can use as an excuse to Waka jump to Maori Party which would get him in close to power.

    • Night Stick

      I don’t think Jones is that Maorified.

      • In that case he can dinghy jump

        • Night Stick

          If he misses the footing on the jump he can do painful damage to his future.

          • Billythekid

            As did Don Rash.

  • Night Stick

    Gareth Hughes reminds me of a rabbit, not a bird.

    • Mr_Blobby

      Rat faced turd if you ask me.

  • timemagazine

    He is salivating to be labour’s next leader.

  • steve and monique

    Guess he knows wankers when he see’s them.

  • Billythekid

    Mr Jones was unrepentant this afternoon. GREAT. I’m starting to like this guy. His party, well that’s a different story !!!

  • damm good thrashing

    I wonder if he wants to change partys