Paranoid Winston Peters dumps candidate?

Via the Tipline

NZ First is in dire straights. They only had two people nominated in Tauranga  – Murray Guy, the ex city councillor being the frontrunner. Both were rejected. Guy is pretty annoyed after being promised a high list ranking by Winston’s minion Edwin Perry…


This of course reflects the fact that all of NZ First being a “party” is a face.  It is nothing more than a Winston Peters cult.  And those who want to be on the ride only have to do one thing:  say nothing.   You’re just there for 3 years to take the money and to do absolutely nothing of substance.  

To be fair, Murray has bigger plans and wants to make a difference.


So no matter how good the candidate, no matter how much supported by the party hierarchy, if Winston doesn’t like the cut of your jib, you’re dead in the water.

Winston is paranoid.


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  • DLM

    NZ First in another scandal… no surprises there.

  • POY

    Where is the first email from Anne?

  • Lofty

    Murray is a good Guy, has intellect and nouse.
    Can argue a case, and appears to have principles.
    He was a relatively effective City Councillor, and didn’t seem to be afraid to speak his mind…..oh wait…..

    • redeye

      He has principles? No wonder he was rejected.

      • Lofty


      • wooted

        Then why try to stand for Winston First?

    • I too have met Murray Guy through his involvement in speedway. I’d always thought that he was a very switched-on bloke, but the mere fact that he’s letting his name and reputation be tarnished by Winston is a worry.

      In the months to come, I hope Murray realises that he dodged a bullet.

    • AnonWgtn

      I have seen him a number of times over the years before he got kicked off the Tauranga Council.
      He dresses very sloppily going to a Council Meeting – as it was his last and from his loud arrogant conversation for everybody in the Car Park that I last saw him with a fellow Councillor neither expected to be thrown off as useless.
      They both appeared to be loudmouth pricks which is why we decided that we would not vote for either of them.
      The Mayor only got through by the skin of his teeth, and is out next time too.

      • Lofty

        Ah well I guess opinions are like the proverbial anus……everyone has one AnonWgtn.

  • Rusty B

    Did Winnie hold up the sign and say “NO”

  • wanarunna

    Not wanting to appear nitpicky, but this blokes wants to get into parliament, yet from his email and message:
    a) we can tell he doesn’t know that advise is a verb and advice is the noun;
    b) “Glaringly absent is the absence of any rational… ” – lets leave aside for the minute the fact the words rational and rationale are different. That pales into insignificance against the wonderful double negative. Did they give reasons or not. It appears from what he said that they did!!!
    c) believe / belief – again noun vs verb. Primary school stuff.
    d) So, what exactly did happen to the report after the meeting in Hamilton. He has said that subsequent to some event it was provided to the board, but hasn’t said what that event was.
    e) The words should and if do not have the same meaning. They are not interchangeable.

    Quite frankly, I probably wouldn’t have picked him either.


    • Lofty

      Goodness wanarunna, having a bad day mate?

      Oh and it is bloke as in singular…just saying.. ;-)

      • wanarunna

        touche. If I am having a bad day, the so is rouppe….

    • Mark

      I was about to say the same thing but you bet me to it. Given his woeful spelling and grammar I’m not surprised NZ rejected him!

      • Lofty

        Oh the irony!

        • hookerphil

          Bet you saw that, could be a beat up.

          • Lofty

            yep, that and 1 other obvious error.

            This is fun ;-)

          • Lofty

            I bet I was not the FIRST to notice it either.

          • hookerphil

            Ah, was blinded by the NZ / N.Z. Thought perhaps no one in New Zealand loves him, not just Winnie?

    • Markmywords

      Not all of us went to school to learn.

      • Blokeinauckland

        He is probably a good example. He went to school to steal someone else’s lunch – as he planned to do as a List MP for NZ First.

  • rouppe

    What appalling grammar:

    “Today I receive…” instead of received

    “…confirmation of your phone advise…” instead of advice

    “Glaringly absent is the absence of any …” Double negative which says the thing isn’t actually absent. Should be “Glaringly absent is any…”

    “…is the absence of any rational…” Should be rationale

    “I accepted nomination in the believe that…” instead if belief


    • JustAnotherLurker

      Thanks for that – I was just going to write the same comment. Truly appalling.

      Also the sentence beginning ” At your earliest…” is in desperate need of some commas to make it intelligible.

    • Blokeinauckland

      I totally agree – thank god he has been dropped at the first hurdle. We expect lawmakers to have at least a good grasp of grammar.

      There’s a definite article missing in “…”I accepted nomination…”. The dropping of “the” is an affectation that gives “nomination”, “Council” and other petty affairs an undeserved pedigree. Common practice among the common is it can be dropped if it precedes a noun, in which case it would be Nomination.

      • unitedtribes

        Absolutely no chance for me then

  • Wine Man

    Would love to see the rest of the correspondence.

    • hookerphil

      By what we have seen so far could be held up in the English grammar rewrite department. If I was involved certainly would not want it made public.

  • Brendon Taylor

    If Murray believes he has so much support then he should stand as an independent, he’ll I’d like all MPs & potentials to stand as independents, so we can have true representation in parliament now that MMP is here to stay, they should all run for a particular office in government as well, so we elect people who have knowledge in a particular portfolio, the system of government we have at present is too open to idiots & single minority interest groups.

    • AnonWgtn

      He will be against Horan in Tauranga – two pricks together.

  • Mrs_Random

    In response to all you ‘eagle eyed’ English teachers, in defence of Murray Guy and his grammar, my husband has appalling spelling yet he is capable of a great many things and runs a successful company. I also know the founder of one of NZ’s largest privately owned construction companies was an atrocious speller, however he employed others to do what they did well and he got on with doing what he did well. Based on this I am hesitant to judge Murray Guy and his ability to do the job on his grammar ability alone.

    • Blokeinauckland

      The point is Mr Guy should have sought help with his written communications. Clothes maketh the man, first impressions and all that.

      Your examples are of successful people who had strategies to deal with their soft points.

      • Mrs_Random


  • Crookednose

    I’m interested in what actually happened, especially what was in the original email.
    Focusing on his grammar is a distraction that’s probably not needed.