MH370 now joined by MH17 – Malaysian Airlines jet shot down over Ukraine [ UPDATED]



An Air New Zealand spokeswoman says the airline does?not operate any routes that fly over Ukraine, nor does it have a passenger sharing arrangement with airlines that do.


More of a “no news’ update: ?MFaT still unable to comment on New Zealand passenger numbers on MH17.


Schiphol reports: 154 Dutch; 27 Australian; 23 Malaysia; 11 Indonesia; 6 UK; 4 Germany; 4 Belgium; 3 Philippines; 1 Canada; 47 unknown. ?All 15 crew members were Malaysian.


Press conference in The Netherlands from Shiphol.

Press conference audio


Passengers are from Netherlands with 143 passengers. Australia comes in second with 27 passengers.?There were 11 Indonesian passengers and one infant on-board the ill-fated flight. Britain has six passengers, France and Germany have four each, Belgium have three and Canada one.?Nationalities of the other 58 passengers were not stated in the list.?


UNCONFIRMED ?-?Nationalities Passenger details Netherlands 143 Australian 27 Malaysian 20 (including 2 infants) Indonesian 11 (including 1 infant)


Malaysian Prime Minister holding press conference now. ?No significant new information provided so far other than confirming what has been reported so far.


“If you have any concerns for the welfare of family thought to be on #MH17 try to contact them directly – then call MFaT 04 439 8000″ — MFaT


Australian foreign minister: ?Still too early to say if Australian and/or New Zealand passengers were on board. ?The NZ envoy has arrived at Shiphol Hairport.


The Ukraine foreign minister says he?has evidence that the downing of?MH17 is due to terrorism based on?intercepted phone calls between Russian military officers.


As happened with MH370, the Malaysian Airlines press conferences never happen on time.

Britain asks for emergency UN Security Council meeting on Ukraine.


Press conference due to start shortly



MFaT: A consular rep from NZ Embassy in Den Haag/The Hague is on the way?to Schiphol Airport to liaise with Dutch authorities


The politics has started: ?An Ukrainian state security chief has accused two Russian military intelligence officers of involvement.


Malaysian Airlines has announced a press conference at 8am New Zealand time.


Russia Today reports that there were 71 Dutch citizens on board.


Rebel leaders are “considering” a 2-3 day ceasefire so that recovery can take place.


Just to repeat, still awaiting MFaT report on possibility of New Zealanders on MH17.


The head of Ukrainian Emergency Situations (Civil Defence?) says attempts to search?at the crash site?are being slowed down by?”armed terrorists”.


This will fire up the tin foil hat crowd: ?TWA flight 800 was shot down by a missile after it crashed on this day in July 1996


An Internet?page belonging to Igor Girkin (aka?Strelkov), a military commander of the “Donetsk People’s Republic“, says?the separatists believed they had shot down an An-26 military aircraft.

“We just downed an An-26 near Torez. It is down near the Progress mine”.

The An-26 is a transport aircraft .

“We had warned them?not to fly in ‘our sky’.”

“And here is a video confirming that a ‘bird fell'”



US Senator?John McCain?:?”If it is the result of either separatist or Russian actions mistakenly believing this was a Ukrainian war plane, I think there?s going to be hell to pay and there should be.? ?[ convenient excuse for entering the Russia / Ukraine conflict… ]


New York Times journalist Sabrina Tavernise is on the scene and reports bodies are still belted into seats. ?Many of bodies largely intact.


Pro-Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine say they have found the “black box” flight recorder – Interfax news agency.


Ukraine’s airspace regulatory body has stated the flight was progressing normally with no signs of any problems until the point it disappeared off radar.


Russia has asked Kiev for permission to help with rescue work. ?[“rescue work”… right. ?and NOW they ask permission?]


An emergency services rescue worker at the scene has told how at least 100 bodies have been found so far, near the village of Grabovo, and that debris from the wreckage is spread across an area up to about 15km in diameter.

Separatists rebels so far deny involvement.


France suspect four of its citizens were on board. ? But as we’ve seen with MH370 – can we trust Malaysian Airlines’ internal record keeping?


Airline after airline are making statements that they are already, and will continue, to give Ukrainian airspace a wide berth. ?Existing flights have been diverted.


MFaT officials are attempting to get information if any New Zealanders were on board.


UNCONFIRMED reports 15 British passengers were on board. ?British PM David Cameron states he’s yet to receive confirmation that 9 citizens were on board.


Expected dead now exceed?300, and includes 23 US citizens. ?Details remain unconfirmed as events remain sketchy as conflicting reports come in. No speculation as to who is responsible.

A Malaysian Airlines passenger plane has been shot down on the Russian-Ukraine border, killing all 295 people on board, according to a Ukrainian interior ministry official.

Flight MH17, which was carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew, was flying between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur after taking off at lunchtime today.


The Interfax news agency reported that the aircraft went missing near Donetsk, where pro-Russian rebels have been fighting Ukrainian government forces.

TV pictures from the scene showed a pall of smoke billowing into the sky apparently from the stricken aircraft.

Witnesses say body parts are scattered over a distance of 15km, suggesting the plane broke up in mid-air.


It is believed the plane was struck by BUK surface-to-air missile at 33,000ft around 20 miles before entering Russian airspace.

The missile system is an old Soviet-built weapon designed to engage light aircraft, cruise missiles and drones.

Defence experts have expressed fears in the past they could be used to target at civil aircraft.

A similar launcher was seen by Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne earlier today.

Russian President Vladimir Putin in a telephone conversation told U.S. President Barack Obama that a Malaysian airplane crashed on Ukrainian territory, the Kremlin said.


The two leaders held a pre-planned call on the situation in Ukraine during which information became available from air traffic controllers about the crash.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said his country’s armed forces didn’t shoot at any airborne targets.

‘We do not exclude that this plane was shot down, and we stress that the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not take action against any airborne targets,’ he said.

‘We are sure that those who are guilty in this tragedy will be held responsible.’


Ukrainian President Poroshenko: shooting down of Malaysian plane a “terrorist act”.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has been speaking on the phone to US President Barack Obama about the Malaysia Airlines plane crash, the Kremlin says.

The two leaders held a pre-planned call on the situation in Ukraine, during which information became available from air traffic controllers about the crash.






via Facebook

A Dutch man posted a picture of what is believed to be flight MH17 and a caption which roughly translates as “if the plane disappears, this is what it looks like”.


It is believe to be a joke in reference to Malaysia Airlines MH370 which disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board.


Initially, friends responded with messages laughing at the ‘joke’.


“Happy holidays! No crazy things though that’s the gods requests!” wrote one.


But seven hours later, news broke that a Malaysia Airlines plane travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has been shot down in Eastern Ukraine.


Friends began posting asking if he could have been on this plane.




– Daily Mail, Mirror, Telegraph, Washington Post, Getty, Reuters, NLP, Universal, Wikimedia, Interfax, New York Times