Apparently these masked guys with guns are no longer terrorists in the EU

A senior Hamas leader, renewing Hamas's pledge to destroy its enemy, said: 'This illusion called Israel will be removed'

A senior Hamas leader, renewing Hamas’s pledge to destroy its enemy, said: ‘This illusion called Israel will be removed’

Apparently the EU have removed Hamas form the terror list.

The EU General Court has ordered that the Palestinian militant group Hamas be removed from the bloc’s terror blacklist. The move comes over four years after Hamas appealed its terror designation before the EU.

The European Union first banned Hamas’ military wing, the Izz a-Din al-Qassam Brigades, in 2002, though the organization’s social and political divisions were not put on the terror list. Following a series of Hamas suicide bombings during the second intifada or uprising in September 2003, the EU extended the ban to include the organization as a whole.

On September 12, 2010, Hamas appealed the ban, largely on procedural grounds. In its complaint, the group cited a lack of due process, specifically, that it had not been properly informed the act was being implemented. It further asserted that as a “legitimately-elected government,” it cannot be labeled as a terrorist organization, saying such a designation flies in the face of “the principle of non-interference in the internal matters of a State.”

The court accepted the organization’s argument, saying that the decision to remove Hamas from the list was not based on an examination of Hamas’ activities, but rather on an examination of the procedures used to institute the 2003 ban in the first place. Barring the closure of an appeal, however, a funding freeze against the group will remain in place for three more months.

That court decision looks pretty stupid with Hamas parading their weapons and terror militants in the streets of Gaza on the very same day. 

Hamas paraded more than 2,000 of its armed fighters, drones and truck-mounted rockets through Gaza today to mark its 27th anniversary in the biggest show of force since the end of the Gaza war this summer.

A ceasefire in August halted 50 days of fighting with Israel in which local health officials said more than 2,100 Palestinians, mainly civilians, were killed – while Israel put the number of its dead at 67 soldiers and six civilians.

And at the parade, a senior Hamas leader reaffirmed the Islamist movement’s founding charter’s pledge to destroy Israel.

Responsible organisations don’t pledge to destroy their neighbours…terrorists do.

They sure are gluttons for punishment. If Hamas put those 2ooo troops across the border of Gaza they’d all be wiped out in a matter of days.

But apparently guys dressed like this, wearing slogans of hate aren’t terrorists according to the dud judges of Europe.

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and;

Referring to the movement’s armed wing, Khalil al-Hayya, said: ‘This illusion called Israel will be removed. It will be removed at the hands of the Qassam Brigades.’

In recent years, some Hamas leaders have said they would accept a Palestinian state on land Israel occupied in a 1967 war in return for a long-term truce, but would continue to refuse to recognise its enemy’s right to exist.

Sounds like terrorists to me.

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and;

Abu Ubaida, the brigades’ spokesman, added another confrontation with Israel might be inevitable unless the tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the Gaza Strip in last summer’s conflict are rebuilt soon.

Wearing a mask, he said: ”We will accept no less than the rebuilding of everything that was destroyed by the savage Zionist aggression.’ 

Of course Hamas will never recognise that their tunnels into Israel were offensive operations, and their more than 4000 rockets in 2 months wasn’t aggression either.

They were acts of terror not of a responsible organisation.

 

– RT.com, Daily Mail

 


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  • Eddie

    Ridiculous.
    Their charter, calling for death to all Jews, should be all that’s needed to designate them as a terrorist organisation.
    Apparently Europe is too tolerant for such things.

    • FredFrog

      It’s not so much a case that Europe is tolerant of such things, more likely that the EU puppet masters belong to the so-called “religion of peace” or are threatened enough by the “religion of peace” to acquiesce to their threats

  • FredFrog

    What a great target that parade would have made for the IAF

    • Eddie

      If only Israel didn’t care about things like international law…

      • FredFrog

        I guess that if the stated goal of hamas is to wipe Israel off the map, then Israel could say that technically they are at war with hamas.

        • Eddie

          Only, a ceasefire has been agreed. Hamas knows that Israel will not break it. Hamas also knows that Israel doesn’t really want war and so provocation is not likely.

          Hamas will wait for their forces to be stronger (and some cement to be made into tunnels), attack from behind children, and then show the images to the media who will lap it up and not question anything.

          Those without access to a braincell or the internet will then start the chants down our streets and shout all sorts of things that are reminiscent of late 1930s Germany.

      • disqus_XQTYMFVKlf

        This could be taken 2 ways, i’m going to say sarcasm ??

        • Eddie

          Not sarcastic at all. A little lamentatous, perhaps.
          There is one country in the Middle East that upholds the principles of democracy and freedom and most want to condmen it!

          • disqus_XQTYMFVKlf

            Freedom and democracy for Israel and its Jewish population. As for the Gentiles well we know their views on non jews are.

          • Eddie

            For ALL citizens!
            Christians do very well in Israel such that it’s the only safe place they can prosper and their number has done just that http://goo.gl/FmnVn1
            Arabs do so well in Israel that 77% would prefer Israeli to Palestinian rule http://goo.gl/QFu0xC
            Your allusions are illusions.

          • disqus_XQTYMFVKlf

            How about people of colour ? not saying racism doesnt exist in other countries but some of those othordox jew neighbourhood can be pretty brutal for such people.

            Have you lived in Israel ??

          • Eddie

            I lived in Israel for a few years. For sure, there are some neighbourhoods even I wouldn’t want to go into, especially around Jerusalem. There are some neighbourhoods I wouldn’t want to go into in many cities around the world!
            Having extreme Jews or Arabs (both wold have thrown stones at me) or gang members in a certain place is quite different to state-sanctioned racism, however.
            The calls of “apartheid”, for example, are offensive to people with half a brain and anyone South African with any self respect. You seemed to be alluding to something similar.

    • Eddie

      Note, that now Hamas has broken the ceasefire, Israel responds – http://bit.ly/13lq4Lz.
      Wait for the world to condemn this as “indiscriminate genocidal aggression”…

  • EvoDriver

    “The move comes over four years after Hamas appealed its terror designation…”
    I love the way it’s something you can appeal, like there’s some kind of official “terror committee” that decides these things.

  • Justsayn

    This needs a new headline as the guns and masks are not really the point. Here is a police swat team from google…

    • disqus_XQTYMFVKlf

      God imagine a first person shooter featuring SWAT vs HAMAS. The amount of team kills would be off the charts. !!

  • Dave_1924

    They are an official government elected by the people of Gaza. So a terror irganisation doesn’t fit any more per see. But can’t the EU designate them along the lines of Libya under Gaddafi as a State Sponsor of Terror? Or is that just a US thing?

    • Rick H

      and, pray tell, what choice did the voters have?
      Vote for Hamas or be killed

      Hamas won the election fairly – – -yeah Right.

  • Bartman

    Seriously, we actually have reached a nadir in sheer judicial incompetence! That a terrorist organisation can stand in a court and argue to delist itself from it’s self-proclaimed intent is just beyond belief. I’m not religious, but I pray that we never stoop to such ridiculous levels in this part of the world.
    I’m expecting a significant Aussie backlash by way of stiffened legislation, and they might even have the courage to directly defend their nation against the well-publicised Islamic aspirations for global subjugation.
    #I’llrideyououtoftown seems an appropriate start!

  • Hedgehog

    From the recent reports I’ve read, Europe will be an Islamist state in the not too distant future, so it’s natural they would have a sympathetic judiciary.

  • JustanObserver

    ‘Our’ Western ideology is being used against us at every turn.
    The fact that Terror Organisations use our ‘Laws’ against us, and appeal when we have made decisions, or cry that we are treating them like animals, or persecuting them, or we are ‘Anti-Muslim’ makes me soooo wild.
    They are what they are ….. Evil.
    It is time we fight fire with fire, then they would know Terror !

  • timemagazine

    It was only a matter of time before socialist EU would take this step. I wonder if it is just a coincidence to announce this shortly after Hannukah. Let’s see what Marxist UN will do after this.

  • In some ways, that decision sets an interesting precedent, if an organisation is elected to government and has a military wing, that wing is a defacto army. Any aggression it makes externally to it’s elected domain is therefore an invasion and is an act of war, making the government and government facilities a valid military target.

  • johnnyB

    The fact that we need a List that somehow dictates Good or Evil is typical of the Leftist bureaucracy. This is how they impose their narrow view of what they believe is correct – in our own country we should be very wary of their attempts to block our PM on who he may communicate with or our MP’s on who they can write articles for.

  • unitedtribes

    This will just drive Europe further to the far right of politics. Why do the armies of a legitimate elected democracy need to mask their faces?

    • Come on, the SAS do that all the time. Thats not the issue, the issue is that if they are an elected government, their actions are a declaration of war.

  • Toasty

    If ever I saw a street that was a candidate for a surprise napalm strike, that was it!

    • 2rotorbro

      To quote the Wessex S58T door gunner from Full Metal Jacket “get some, get some” rat-a-tat-tat

  • Bruce S

    The “EU General Court” – a euphemism meaning the loonies haven’t taken their medication today.

  • KiwiKaffir

    The insanity of it all, we can just live in hope that Europe will get its Whyte together and the civil war won’t last too long!

  • Pete

    Of course, you can see the next step in this madness, and that will be because the EU court has reversed this ruling, it won’t be long before you start seeing these Hamas fighters turning up in places like France, the UK, Holland etc, because if they are not ruled as terrorists anymore, they will have to be let in if they claim political asylum.

    It really does make me wonder how much longer it is going to be before there is a major re set in the EU, with the people rising up against these socialist liberal wrecking balls that seem to have infested Brussels. Farrage is a good start, but there needs to be more, and soon. There is going to be a massive rise in nationalism in Europe which will turn very bloody, I just hope the first people they go for are the EU leaders and politicians who due to their rampant socialist anti establishment views, have poisoned Europe.

    • Thersites

      Being a terrorist is no bar from claiming political asylum.
      The original Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees was drafted in 1951 with a view to preventing a recurrence of the situation in the 1930s when Jewish refugees were turned away and in some cases returned to Nazi Germany. At the same time, it included provisions to make sure that fugitive Nazis could not benefit from it; refugee status could be refused if there were grounds for believing him to be a danger to the community, or if convicted of a serious crime in the country of refuge.
      However, NZ is also a party to the Convention Against Torture 1984. If there are grounds for believing that a person might be at risk of torture, then he cannot be deported – end of. This applies even if the asylum seeker is himself accused of murder, torture or other grave crimes, or commits serious crimes in the country of refuge. If one of the Taliban from Pakistan, a Boko Haram member from Nigeria or an ISIS killer from Syria turned up on these shores and demanded asylum, it would be impossible to deport him as he would certainly have a well founded fear of torture or gross human rights violations if deported to Pakistan, Nigeria or Syria.
      I believe many New Zealanders would be shocked if they knew what our politicians have signed up to in the name of human rights.

  • Second time around

    The judges have interpreted the law correctly if the ruling cannot be appealed- that’s what courts do and the finality of judgements is part of the process. If the law was badly drafted, as many are (think of Helen Clark’s bill that supposedly prevented GCSB from helping the police spy on a recidivist criminal living in NZ), the blame for not anticipating the current situation with Hamas rests with the people who drafted the law and the politicians who passed it, not with the judges.

  • Isherman

    Normally when the issue of Hamas comes up, for me its a case of “don’t get me started”, and much of what I have to say would be unsuitable for this forum. So, to avoid both posting a low calorie comment or something that would have consequences for my participation, I attach a link to the Charter (in full) of Hamas. Now I personally believe the removal of the terrorist designation will be reversed, but in case there is any doubt, perhaps the ‘judges’ should take the time for a careful reading of the Charter and ask themselves honestly if this is what they want to legitimise within Europe and allow Hamas to safely keep funds and assets that would be used in the prosecution of clearly terrorist actions against a UN member state.

    https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejerusalemfund.org%2Fcpap%2Fdocuments%2Fcharter.html%3Fchocaid%3D397&ei=pleSVIKXG4_V8gW3k4KwCA&usg=AFQjCNHKEVJ7lntayRKeAaBfnFR1Xk1XrA&bvm=bv.82001339,d.dGc

  • Curious

    Late to the discussion, however a couple of comments. These people in the photos do not exist as far as MSM tell us. Not one photo of this lot fighting, killing and being killed in Gaza in the latest incursion made the news. I note their equipment; body armour, weapons, etc…on a par with the best available in the world – ergo, these guys are seriously well equipped killers. Lastly, their doctrine and stated aim is to kill the Jews off Israel.

    I do not subscribe to the view that Islam is all bad because these people are Islamists. I just believe their particular doctrine has become so perverted that they are capable of doing everything the (Christian) Nazis would do. For the EU to rule this is not obnoxious to Judeo-Christian rationalisation or democracy is totally repugnant. And reinforces how 2000+ years of anti-Semitism in Europe colours much of the european discourse on this topic.

    • Eddie

      Great point – I imagine Mike McRoberts was too busy having his attention pointed toward the innocent dead (who weren’t allowed to leave their homes when warned) to notice the rocket launchers and tunnellers.
      There was one brave Indian TV crew that captured some of the truth. Now a few AP journalists have spoken out. I do hope more is made of this obvious flaw in “reporting”.

  • Andy Brown

    My argument has been that Israel could stop the land grabbing. It is telling for me to read now that even if Israel returns Palestine to it’s pre-1967 borders, this group won’t acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Then what choices are left?

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