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  • rantykiwi

    So William Yan/Bill Liu denies that a $1M+ property and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of Porsches are his. He also says he “gave away” a Rolls Royce and expects nothing in return – and he speaks so little English that he needs an interpreter in court.

    Time to revoke his residency status, strip him of his citizenship and deport the sod. I dare say the courts can manage to keep the frozen $40M and add it to the crown’s coffers if they play the game right and claim all the costs involved in investigating and prosecuting him. We don’t need shady scum like this in NZ and it’s time a strong message to that effect was sent.

    • mommadog

      While I appreciate the sentiment it’s not going to happen with NZ’s soft soap courts. The only hope is that maybe he is on the Chinese most wanted list. I heard on the news there is/was some discussions going on along this issue….

  • Not Clinically Insane

    Have the Parliamentary Press Gallery blamed WO for their Christmas tree going missing yet?

    • Aucky

      I missed that. They need to check Lees-Galloway’s boot.

  • (pic)

    • LesleyNZ

      Oh this is so funny. Awful stuff to disengage.

  • Whafe

    Are we still awaiting the NZ MSM to delve into the the song threatening our prime minister, or are they still bleating on in annotating circle re Cam’s texts to John Key….

    Didn’t think the MSM have yet, don’t hold your breath

  • Whafe

    Don’t travel to Europe when you fall off your Mtb bike and smash up your rotator cuff. My shoulder is looking far from normal, along with feeling far from normal…

    Other than that, loving Germany in the cool weather with the Christmas feel..

    • TonyM

      Christmas market time….

    • Nige.

      ARRRGHHHHH!!!!

    • OT Richter

      Nothing that a visit to the Nicolai factory wouldn’t make feel better.

      • Whafe

        Yep, Am sure Kalle could make the shoulder work….

    • JAFA Gazza

      I hear if you take a rotor cuff…boil it in water…then take one ml of that liquid…distil it…then take one ml of the distilled liquid…oh you know where this is going….it apparently cures Ebola so it should work for your shoulder mate…

    • Wendy

      That doesn’t look like a hospital wall behind you.

  • EveryWhichWayButLeft

    Well team, this clocks up my 1000th comment… I started as an occasional reader (esp. ‘interesting names’) a few years ago, became a regular reader sometime early last year and added my first comment around this time last year. So I’m pretty much still a noob, but I never thought I’d end up with this many comments to my name when I started.

    I’d like to thank Cam, Pete and the team for putting up content that keeps me coming back as well as the opportunity to add my two cents. I also quietly curse you for afflicting me with an addiction/obsession around all things politics.

    What I’ve reailsed though… is that I don’t always agree with what Cam says or how he says it, but it’s actually the quality of the comments that keep me coming back. The new rules have aided that no-end and I have no problem encouraging friends and colleagues to read WO, where I might not have in the past [take a bow Pete].

    To all the other commentors here, thanks for providing such an excellent community of robust discussion and quality entertainment. I might just stick around for another 1000 :D

    • rantykiwi

      Until I read your post I hadn’t looked at the number of comments I’d made – this is 1010 for me. What you’ve said above pretty much sums up my journey and feelings too – I look forward to seeing you get the next 1000 posts and hope that I can manage to get there as well without being sent to Siberia.

    • Nige.

      On a personal note; i especially liked how you gave that transgender labour candidate a “warm welcome” that time. I was watching that thread intensely and waiting for the haters, and you handled the situation like a pro and steered it into a good direction. ;)

      • EveryWhichWayButLeft

        Thanks Nige.

        It turns out I never saw her out on the campaign trail in Whangarei or I would have stopped and said hello. I think anyone that has the guts to put themselves up to represent their community like that, regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, etc deserves a bit of respect.

        I was impressed that the haters didn’t turn up too and it clearly demonstrate the difference between WO and the other blogs, esp. the lefty ones.

        nb: kudos to ex-JAFA there as well.

        • ex-JAFA

          Umm… just checking: kudos to me for what? Did I comment in support of you, or do you think I was also a transgender candidate?

          • EveryWhichWayButLeft

            lol, no I meant standing for parliament general.
            Unless you’re trying to say something? :)

            I’ve edited, hopefully clearer now.

          • ex-JAFA

            Definitely not trying to say anything! Family and other ACT candidates comment here, and I don’t want any of ’em getting the wrong idea!!

    • Wahbonnah

      For what it’s worth EWWBL, I love the name and appropriate avatar you have :-)

  • Nige.

    we all know prince is a talent…so his band must be pretty talented too.

    • Whafe

      Yeah ha Nige, she goes off on the drums, awesome link. Thanks for sharing

    • intelligentes candida diva

      It is Shiela E, she played at the closing of Atlanta Olympics, she was amazing then, here is a recent performance

      Sheila Escovedo. Drum Solo Week on Letterman: http://youtu.be/LweJGrdyAhI

      • Marby

        She was here in NZ a few years ago at a “Noise” conference in Auckland. They interviewed her. My son is a drummer and he went to workshops with her. What an amazing mentor to have. So, yeah, she is a Christian and pretty strong about it. Very interesting woman with strong values, obtained after years of struggles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Djjdd1dsUU

  • Isherman

    Favourite silly season song?..my pick would be this.

    • JoJo

      This is my pick too! Not much of a fan of xmas songs, this is my only exception.

    • Nechtan

      There are couple of Glam rock Xmas songs which are quite festive

      • Nige.

        well how could i restrain myself….

  • jude

    ..

  • Nige.

    if anyone wants to listen to Howard stern interviewing Dave Grohl in the backggroud for an hour, whilst you surf around then here it is. Be warned though, theres a bit of the FOUL LANGUAGE happening at times.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjwa_QspPiE

    • Wasapilot

      Thanks Nige, going to their concert in February.

    • Wasapilot

      A great way to spend an hour listening to this. What made it even better was Mrs Wasapilot was watching “The Block” while I was enjoying this audio.

  • Alright

    Christmas cheer…

  • rantykiwi

    Can you please deliver your bulldozer to Auckland. I have a small piece of brown rubbish which needs shoving over a bank. And it would be very fitting for the council’s inorganic contractors to remove it permanently later on.

    • Dave

      I hear the job should only take a few minutes, maximum.

  • Alright

    Christmas cheer

  • Sally

    Driveway accidents. I put this all down to people are too much in a hurry to get somewhere. So please everybody slow down when children are around. Be a minute late than have a lot of grieve.

    • Michael

      If reversing cameras were compulsary in all new cars sold it would help reduce this ongoing problem!

      • Wallace Westland

        If common sense was compulsory in parents it would eliminate kids being run over in driveways, child poverty, drug addition, teenage pregnancy…stop..I’m rambling.

        • Be no one left to vote green though

          • rantykiwi

            You say that like it’s a bad thing.

      • MaryLou

        Most people aren’t buying new cars! It’d work, but take 10 years to trickle through..

        • Michael

          I agree but it would trickle through. If we never start it will never trickle through. Cars didn’t have seat belts at one time, Not many don’t now.

          • MaryLou

            This is true, but 10 years is a lot of dead kids! If you’re backing out of a driveway and own a toddler, surely someone is looking after the toddler while you’re not there. People MUST understand that of they’re in charge of a toddler (or young child), and know someone else in the house is leaving, the only safe thing is to physically have hold of said child. There’s just no other way to keep them safe

      • rantykiwi

        I believe they will be compulsory on all new cars sold in NZ from sometime next year.

      • Dave_1924

        other low tech solutions that can be done now if people care enough to so… you see a number of people movers with a mirror on the back tilted down that help when reversing……. the other is to get the other parent to make sure the kids are out of the way

    • Cadwallader

      But: Why does this type of accident appear to happen more frequently in the lower income parts of town? One excuse will be that the impoverished can’t afford cars with reversing cams.

      • Sally

        Reversing cameras are not the solution.
        I have never had a car with a reversing camera and never run over a kid.
        It is just paying attention to your surrounds and not rushing out your driveway. Cars and kids do not mix.

        • Cadwallader

          It is only my more recently owned cars which have had reversing cams and I have never hit a child in a driveway either. A reversing cam is not something you’ll encounter at this blog either. LOL.

        • Wendy

          I agree. I have never had a reversing camera, yet I have never managed to run over a child. Probably because I always check that I can see them well out of the way of the car before I move.

          Edit: Then I read your comment properly. Lol.

      • Sagacious Blonde

        Better fencing, childproof gates, deadbolts in the house; the sorts of thing that landlords can get away with not providing and low income families can’t afford to prioritise as essentials.

        • mommadog

          None of that is essential. Essential is making sure your kids are inside behind a closed door before you start the car or standing in front of the car in your vision while you back out. Every house on the street where I live (over half of which are housing corp. houses) have fences and all of the housing corp. rental houses have gates. Gates are left open and kids still play on the street and on driveways. Things aren’t going to fix the problem. Only people and common sense are.

        • rantykiwi

          Housing NZ are busily spending a truckload of the taxpayer’s money fencing all state house driveways/back gardens. From what I’ve seen all that happens is that the tenants abandon the back garden as “too inconvenient” and leave car and kids out front where the accidents keep on happening. Or they smash the gates so they “don’t get in the way”. It’s not a matter of fencing, it’s a matter of parenting.

          • Fredd Dagg

            True that it will make no difference… but Housing NZ are not doing it to save lives, but to cover their own butts.

      • Dave

        I dont buy the “cars without camera’s argument” My kids are 32 and 30, I cant recall many if any driveway accidents way back then, and parents in law cant either, but say there were a few more on the farms back in their younger days. The issue is driver management / driveway management, its NOT about fencing, there was far less fencing back then. Would love some stats going back say…… 50 years to do a comparison year by year. But lets not underestmate the need to always know where kids are, and only back out when you know where the kids actually are!

    • Nige.

      yeah and when backing out of a driveway slow down BEFORE you to the footpath.

    • Sagacious Blonde

      A friend who killed his 20 month old daughter could not believe that she had moved so fast. Out a closed door on the other side of the house and round under the wheels in the time it took to shut the door she was banging on, crying Daddy, Daddy, put his bag in the back, switch on the car and back out as usual.
      A child determined to go with someone can blindside even the best parenting.

      • Sally

        That is really sad. Probably the worse experience a parent could go through.

        • mommadog

          Agreed. There are some instances where no matter what you do an accident happens.

      • intelligentes candida diva

        That is one of the most tragic saddest examples I have heard

  • Police are negotiating with an armed man at Auckland’s Eastern Beach. Police say the man is not a threat to the public

    • rantykiwi

      Cue a Tui advert. if he really isn’t a threat to the public they would stand well clear and let him do his thing.

    • LesleyNZ

      I hope the police are armed!

    • cyclinggirl

      Hope all police and bystanders get home safely tonight!

  • Punter

    Someone mentioned Kevin Hague looking like Alf Garnett today. Check out some great TV before the PC brigade came into force. There is no way any of this would be shown on TV today. Are we better off for it?

  • Moonroof

    Maybe not everyone’s cup of T, but GregM’s comment earlier in the day was an epic summary, quote of the day, he deserves a beer: “Well I’ve had enough of this. How many lives would have been ruined by
    1709 grams of P ? If I am supposed to feel sorry for some lonely broken
    arse who thought he would be marrying some piece of poontang he had
    never met, in exchange for trafficking drugs into a country where we all
    know the penalty is a bit on the harsh side, then I’m sorry but I don’t
    care.
    Firing squad at dawn, and broadcast it to ” encourager les autres”. ” http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/12/key-everything-can-drug-smugglers/#comment-1730671792

    • Lux

      I’ve been thinking about it, and what was that guy thinking?

      It’s like he went insane.

      Why be so stupid?

      I just do not get it.

      • Damon Mudgway

        Promise of sex and money. That’ll do it for a lot of men.

        • Lux

          That’s tragic, there are plenty of women around who would have given him a date in NZ I”m sure, he looked harmless enough holding up his fish.

          • Moonroof

            And if he didn’t have a fish?

          • Lux

            It seems like he swapped his fishing for playing the fool with scammers.

          • Moonroof

            Indeed. Play to your strengths, and the weaknesses of others, not vice versa.

          • Wahbonnah

            He would’ve looked awfully strange standing there, holding thin air!!!!

      • rantykiwi

        It’s no less sane than Len Brown’s behaviour.

      • Moonroof

        Nonplussed and baffled here, how can someone not know they are doing a march to the scaffold, in a country that has no humour whatsoever about drug smuggling.

      • Nige.

        He had probably been smoking/sniffing it for weeks on end and had no sleep and thought it would be a GREAT idea.

        Thats likely why they haven’t questioned him yet….waiting for him to dry out so they can get truthful answers out of him.

  • LesleyNZ

    Recipe time for all of you who like easy no fuss cooking. Really impressed with Annabel Langbein’s flour and plain yoghurt pizza base – it works and is delicious. The ratio is 1 cup of flour to 1 cup of plain yoghurt. 1 cup makes a smallish thin crust pizza. Just mix to a soft dough, sprinkle with a little flour, roll it or pat it out to a roundish shape and top with your favourite topping. I cooked it like I do for other pizzas – reasonably high heat for about 15-20 mins – you can tell when it is ready. I sprayed olive oil all over before cooking. It was rather yummy.

  • Nige.

    I don’t want to bring anyone down with this potentially awkward question, and im sorry if it brings unwanted emotions but it is something I have always pondered….

    When a loved one has died, is it more appropriate to celebrate their life on their birthday or the date that marks the day they died? Or maybe some OTHER significant time.

    • Woody

      Any or all of the above Nige

    • rantykiwi

      Whatever works for you. I remember my mum every day…. and don’t do anything beyond that which makes each and every day special.

      • jude

        I do often think of my Dad. I even cooked his special tomato sauce, I found a handwritten recipe that I have had framed.
        It makes me smile, his instruction included to strain “through that thing with holes in it”.
        He meant a colander:)

        • Gaynor

          I have a hand written copy of my Dad’s plum sauce recipe,from about 26 years ago. It starts with the instruction to ‘Remove ALL pot plants from the house’ I didn’t the first time I made it and they all curled up and died. The plums still come from the tree Dad planted in 1949.Dad has been dead 20years….

          • jude

            That is so special! Is there something in the plum that causes pot plants to die? I have not heard of that before!
            I was talking with a friend today and in the new year we were going to have a session preserving fruit and making jam

          • Gaynor

            I think it must be a combination of onions ,vinegar etc lol The plums are big and dark red all the way through ….I did notice that the tree is showing signs of old age this year.

    • Moonroof

      Would go for birthday – (one hopes) was always a happy special day for them, and the anniversary of when they came to the world and brought their own meaning to the rich tapestry of life [edit] Ranty said it better

    • ozbob68

      I would say Christmas, or any time when the family used to get together regularly, rather than a specific date.

    • Lux

      Dad died on my mothers birthday, so he has always got a double wammy, and it made mum feel special, they were very close.

      Edit to add, you do what feels right, thinking about it, Dad always gets more mentioned on Mums birthday, than he does on his.. you do what is more relevant for you.

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      I think whenever you feel like celebrating their life – it shouldn’t need a special date/occasion.
      Birthdays or memorial days are obvious times because they bring their memory to the forefront. But, they should be by no means the only time you should remember them and cherish the time they were among us.

    • Curly1952

      My Dad has been gone about 16 years now and I think of him nearly every day. It still hurts but you learn to live with it. We all lose people we know whether family or mates – to think of them regularly actually honours their being

      • Moonroof

        Yep. They live on while we remember.

        • Damon Mudgway

          So true, my dad passed away 12 years ago but he’s as alive to me in my thoughts today, as he was when he died.

          At 46 I’m still having a hard time wondering what the point is in being born in the first place.

          • Moonroof

            I’ve regularly wondered whatinhell I’m here for, moreso as an atheist. Now I think life is whatever meaning you choose to give it. Build a shrine to your life, your endeavours, whatever you are passionate about, and enjoy the simple stuff in between.

          • Damon Mudgway

            Sadly for me I’m more into philosophy than religion. While I acknowledge a greater power may be responsible for creation, I have a little trouble with the concept of a heaven. My main worry if there is one, is how the hell am I gonna play my heavy metal CD’s while floating on a cloud surrounded by angels.

          • Moonroof

            There will be a way, the amplification I build here will make a noise into the next life. (yeah, that’s the aforementioned shrine, I like to make stuff, if that’s my legacy, good enough).

          • Blackcap

            There is the Christian variety that Jesus might agree with…. (not as good as main stream metal granted)

          • Damon Mudgway

            Jesus ain’t the problem, heck, for his time he was a rock star…it’s getting it past his Dad that could be an issue :-)

          • Wahbonnah

            Take up Islam to be surrounded by virgins and angels, or
            play those heavy metal cd’s as loud as they’re supposed to be, and appreciate their music and join us on the “highway to hell” brutha!!!!!!

          • kehua

            I would not worry about it, all the best Rockers and HM dudes are up there waiting for ya.

          • Alright

            1) First point: that simply makes you rational.

            2) You have pointed to another good reason for not not wanting to go to heaven. They don’t allow loud music there. And God hates Metalica.

          • Bryan

            have a read in Revelation about the long trumpet blasts and clanging of cymbals, and then there are the children remember Jesus said “of such are the kingdom of Heaven” all those children that no one wanted, or died there is a amazing little book called “Heaven is for real” about a small boy that they thought they had lost on an operating table who came back and weeks later made one of those stop the car moments as they were driving when he said ” I met my sister in heaven the one that died in your tummy mummy and she said she is okay ” and they had never told him about that lost pregnancy and as the weeks went by bit by bit more came out. I think heaven is going to be like something beyond our dreams and there is plenty of noise and music and elders casting crowns and crowds singing worship and i’m sure they will need someone to sound out the beat, so i think it will be far from quiet haha

          • Alright

            Oh dear!

          • Alright

            That is a lovely sentiment about your dad Damon. Lovely.

            Re being born in the first place, a few reflections:

            1) Life is a sexually communicable disease;

            2) It is worth reflecting on the fact that you are here because over millennia your fore-bares were the strongest in the gene pool. This is worth more than a moments reflection. You are, therefore, a bit special…

            3) If you hadn’t been born we wouldn’t be able to enjoy your company.

          • Alright

            Damon,

            Watch the video via the link I have posted above….

          • Wendy

            Ill tell you what the point is…and to anyone else who wants to know the meaning of life.
            Its not about you, its about the joy you can bring to other people in a million tiny ways every day.
            We are not here to get, we are here to give.

    • 1951

      I prefer to use the word reflect rather than celebrate. We tend to use the birthdays to contact each other within the family, just to touch base. I have nieces & nephews that sometimes like/need to hear from us older ones & vice versa.

    • Imogen B

      It is appropriate to remember someone you loved every day in any way that reminds you of them. You are not restricted to one day a year.

    • Wasapilot

      I was born on my mothers birthday, and Dad died on our bithday in 1982. Now Mum has passed away as well, thankfully not on our birthday, on that day we celebrate my birthday, and their lives.

      P.S. My sister still says that I was the birthday present from hell

      • Alright

        I’m sure she means it.

        I have two sisters. Hate them both. No smiley face.

  • Lux

    I have to say, it is approx one year since I started doing Photo Of The Day, It’s been a fun eventful, fruitful, loopy journey, and a Very Very Interesting.

    • rantykiwi

      Thank you very much for your efforts in doing so. I’ve learned and laughed a lot as a result, often at the same time.

      • Lux

        Include Me as well !

    • Wasapilot

      I have been wondering Lux, if you may collaborate with say, Jude, to maybe have a recipe of the day post.

      • Lux

        Wonderful idea.. Oh Just imagine if you people could taste my food as well !!!

        That would be magical !!!! lol

        • Nige.

          Boo

      • rantykiwi

        First up, roasted lefty twitter troll with a tiso soup reduction.

        • Lux

          with side of crabby roll ..

        • Dave

          Sorry RK, that soup cannot be reduced, it seems to get thicker every day.

      • Lux

        Jude has lovely edible food, so maybe it’s not a good idea..

      • jude

        Aw.. Lesley NZ has a pizza base recipe that sounds quite yummy on this thread:)

        • LesleyNZ

          Got to edit the post – forgot I was supposed to have used self-raising flour (which I rarely use) so next time I will add 1 tsp of baking powder per cup of flour. It still tasted fine.

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      Lux, your PotD rock.
      They’ve just got better and better as you’ve gone along. There’s been some straight out weird ones, but like you say – very very interesting.

      • Lux

        Thanks, I try to give photos with a bit of a story that has not been seen, or told before .. or been forgotten, has history, interesting. or just a bit loopy ..

        • Moonroof

          I’ll second EWWBL, some of your pics send me off on a search of the randomness, at lunchtime, they’re a glittering thread in otherwise damp faded axminster of web content.

  • colinrippey

    Watching a Tv programme about a shearing gang in the South Island. Impressed by the attitude of one young guy: married, young child, giving cancer a decent fight, getting back to full time shearing. A setback as the cancer keeps coming back.

    • Wahbonnah

      Geez, I don’t think he could’ve picked a harder job to ease back into!!!!
      Unfortunately I haven’t seen the programme, but wish him and his family all the best in his ongoing fight with that horrific disease.

  • idbkiwi

    “People increasingly judge the media by the web, not the web by the media”

    “a large part of the intelligent population agrees. We now have a press of two tiers, the establishment media and the net”

    “The internet is now primary”.

    “The bright get their news from around the web and then read the New York Times to see how the paper of record will prevaricate”.

    “This system is breaking down under the onslaught of the internet. Papers are losing both credibility and circulation. So are the networks”

    “The major media are not comfortable with intelligence. Television is worst, the medium of the illiterate, barely literate, stupid, uneducated, and uninterested. It cannot afford to air much that might puzzle these classes”,

    Fred On Everything. Scurrilous Commentary by Fred Reed

    http://fredoneverything.net/TwoTiers.shtml

  • Alright

    For Damon and others underneath reflecting on loved ones…

    • Damon Mudgway

      Man, that song is just so well written. Makes me ‘think’ every time I hear it.

  • DavidW

    Shades of Arlo Guthrie. Especially the 27, 8×10 coloured photos with circles and arrows on the back of each one ….
    Alice’s Restaurant (Full 23 Minute Song) – YouTube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjKF7aQthcQ

    Artist: Arlo Guthrie

    • unitedtribes

      Now that made me late for work. Brilliant

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