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  • Isherman

    Didn’t take long for a TV3 fail on the Sydney hostage situation, Mike Mcroberts reporting the flag was said to be that of Jubhat Al- Nusra…its actually generic…even most lazy MSM have clicked onto that by now. Good grief….

    • mommadog

      At least Prime News got it right.

    • Blackcap

      TV3 also fail as I see they have pulled the movie “The Siege” that was going to be shown tonight and have replaced it with a less controversial “Bourne” one. Come on TV3 do not pander to these idiots.

      • Isherman

        Oh for gods sake, really..I guess I shouldn’t be surprised I suppose.

  • there is a song by “the cure” from 1980 that I’d post but I know my limits.

    • Nige.

      funny you should say that…theres another one by motorhead that i cant quite bring myself to put up either.

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      Even the Cure went all PC… The changed it to ‘Kissing an Arab’ and even ‘Killing Another’.

      Great tune and even better live, where they play it a bit harder. It’s on ‘Concert’ (1984) and on my car playlist :)

      • PC WA

        Metallica had an album entitled “Kill ’em all”; that should cover just about any scenario.

  • Nige.

    This scene came up in conversation at work the other day. Remember ol’ sledge hammer?

    Whats your favorite show that is no longer on TV?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R03Dtu1r6nk

    • caochladh

      Sledge Hammer was being re-run on Jones not so long ago.

      • yossarian

        Still is, at least as of last Friday.

    • Isherman

      Too many to think of, but the Blackadder series comes right to mind. Also Foreign Correspondent of all things, most people thought that was a bit tragic of me given I was only about 10 or so at the time.

    • Richard

      Top Town.

    • Cadwallader

      “I think I got him!” Love it.

  • caochladh

    So, the climate junket now has a four page document after decades of largess. It must be the most expensive four pages of drivel ever produced. I’d love to know the cost of each word on the four pages.

  • mommadog

    I made the mistake of having the TV on Channel one when the news came on and didn’t switch it off until now when I have retreated back to WO. Have not done that in weeks. There was Katie Bradford talking about climate change and bouncing around as she does so. I seriously wonder if she actually has a medical condition as the way she moves while speaking is not normal. It got worse as it went on. Too much for me….

    • caochladh

      Perhaps her mother still buys her underwear?

    • garryb

      in our house we call her , oh here is bouncycastle bradford again, bounce bounce ho hum i am as mad as my mum

  • Not Clinically Insane

    Anyone heard from Wussel, Meteira, or any Gween for that matter today? Their silence is deafening

  • yossarian

    It had to happen eventually, Maori now proposing to charge for access to beaches they “own”. Goes to show where pandering to overblown claims of Crown wrongdoing decades ago, or more, is inevitably leading us.

    • ozbob68

      Apparently its part of a treaty deal. Pay them a few extra mill and get our rights back to 90 miles beach, please government.

      • Kip_Dynamite

        They got $70 million in the Treaty settlement I believe. So now kiwi’s will have to pay iwi to use the beach. Disgusting money grab.

        I remember the outrage from Maori when it looked like the Queens chain might be done away with leading to private ownership of beaches. As long as the money goes their way it’s a different story.

        • mommadog

          But according to One News they said its not about the money. Yeah right – pull the other leg!

    • pisces8284 .

      We went to Matauri Bay some 30+ years ago and a young Maori boy asked us for a gold coin donation before we could access the beach. It’s been going on for years

      • Isherman

        It doesn’t happen there now, I can assure you of that. There are are few there that would love that to be the case though. I’ve been going there for the last 25 years and Mum actually works there in the office nowadays. The biggest worry is what comes about from the Matauri X fiasco, and the lease on the camp ground in the future. Rest assured the current lease holders Maggie and Brian will be doing everything they can to keep it just as it is.

      • ProudChiwiSince1990

        Was there 4,5 years ago, and experienced the same thing. I jokingly told the kid that I’ve been in New Zealand for 20 years, so technically, I’ve been here longer than you have… He then proceeded to tell me off with all kinds of colorful racist language. Was gonna just ignore him, but decided to just high tail out of there before the older bros show up.

  • colin herbertson

    i’ve just read somewhere else about a news report a few days ago that the air force may be talking to boeing about aquiring some C17s as a C130 replacement. haven’t heard anything else about this but i know there is some well informed people here, anyone know more about this?

    • Not Clinically Insane

      Unlikely IMO. Any C-17 acquisition would be second-hand anyways as the production line has cbegun to shut down in the last few weeks

      • Isherman

        My understanding is that the US had stopped taking any more as of last year, pretty good all round workhorse though. India and the UK were also among the last recipients.

      • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

        At least we could then airfreight our Lav3’s. Currently they have to be stripped down to bare bones to fit and to be shipped by air (our air that is). The last lot that went anywhere I believe were carried by our allies.

    • Wasapilot

      I think they should look at the Airbus A400M. The C17’s while a great aircraft but may not really suit our strategic needs now we no longer have a strike force.

      A mix of both would be great, but not sure the $ would stretch that far.

      • Isherman

        Or even the A330 if they wanted to save a few bucks.

      • colin herbertson

        i think its a choice between the A400 and C130j ,one is a proven design but offers only a marginal improvement in range and capacity, the other is 30% bigger but is a new type that has had a lot of issues in its development

        • Wasapilot

          I wonder if the C130 technology is a little past it. Don’t get me wrong, the Herc is one of the greatest aircraft ever built, and I would be more than happy with them. I think the C17 is probably beyond our budget, but it would be a brilliant truck to have.
          Hopefully the A400 gremlins have been sorted.

    • Disinfectant

      The Defence Force missed out on a bargain when the U.S. offered us F16’s at giveaway prices.
      The C17 is a very capable aircraft which the U.S. Operations Deepfreeze also use to the Antarctica.
      So long as the likes of the Americans, the Australians and many others operate them, parts will always be available.
      I say, go for it.

  • Nige.

    When 9/11 happened i was living in Sydney and I listened to MMM (triple M), the rock station over there. The events were so shocking that Andrew Dentan, the breakfast host said “to hell with it, MMM is a talk back station today” and he stayed for the whole day from memory, taking calls.

    Well….tradies and bogans and rock listeners alike had no choice but to listen to other peoples feelings about what had happened the night before. It was pretty surreal and hard to listen to at times.

    All was well insofar as that people who weren’t used to listening to talkback were engaging and finding that there was a big wide world out there and were arent necessarily safe in our little day to day life/cocoon.

    Then the haters started calling.The ferals were starting to get sick of living in the real world and wanted their cocoon back.

    “who bloody cares?” and “what does this have to do with Australia” were suddenly what ferals were calling up to say.

    The heads went into the sand. The “tribal drum” kept beating and pretty soon the comments from callers was 50/50. 50% sad people fearing for the future, 50% “who bloody cares? thats never going to happen here. What are you worried about, Denton?”

    Well, today the chickens have come home to roost. I hope those people who called in that day realize, 12 or so years on what INACTION does.

    • Cadwallader

      On September 11th Bill Ralston was on one of the radio stations and just stayed put for hours. Needless to say the ferals started up about how the USA deserved it! Bill dropped the telephone on those ones. This time the anti-American filth started from a Newstalk ZB “journalist” in the form of Rachaelly Smallbrain who stated to Larry Williams that she was surprised that it was a LIndt shop and not a “big American brand” such as McDonalds or Starbucks. It seems Ms Smallbrain would’ve understood had a US brand been targeted. She is filth, utter filth!

      • Cadwallader

        The more I ponder this vile statement from this hideous woman the more incensed I am becoming. Ought I complain to Newstalk? BSA? KPMG? This creep is really gone too far this time, she has now gone beyond simple irritation into manipulative garbage. If her microphone was a motor-vehicle she’d have lost her right to drive a long time ago.

        • Mick Ie

          I suspect she is fast realising, just as she has lost her viewer base, she is now losing her listeners.
          With the regularity that she verbalises the first thought that comes into her head, shows her processing skills have short circuited with her desperation to remain relevant.
          I think she is another journalist who may have to rethink her career path in the very near future.

          • Cadwallader

            Yep! She does not appear to have any ability to conceptualize. I hope you are right about her getting the boot it can’t come soon enough. I do wonder about the anti-American stance she espouses it is so Helen Clark/Phil Goff 1960s!

      • Alright

        But make no mistake. Rachael loves the vitriol. Ask Cam about her threat to punch him. She has no integrity. All she has is a mirror image – helped by Newstalk ZB publishing her visage in its newspaper ads. She thinks she is beautiful when the exact opposite is the case.

  • john Doe

    Rabbits are a bit lis ISIS. They slowly take over your land. A small gain. I shot 6 this evening.

    • Spiker

      Theres 6 or 8 mocking me on the lawn right now. The Lab is getting a bit slow..

      • Isherman

        6 or 8, no probs…

        • caochladh

          Y’all should do it like the professionals – lay down a bank of Claymore’s and watch the fur fly…………

          • Nige.

            for those, who like me just HAD to look it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHs86nH2x4I

          • caochladh

            Just remember, when you lay the cable to expel any static before you insert the detonator!

          • Isherman

            Yup, important to be made aware of points that you would potentially only get wrong once!

  • kayaker

    Seven Sharp has just started. Oh no! Mike Hosking is away again. Just about to switch off, but it’s OK because Mrs Sofa is not on in his place. We have Jack.

    • Ilovelife

      Mike’s on holiday, apparently. He was on holiday a week ago too. Great job he’s got, eh?

      • Aucky

        He’s still doing his ZB gig this week.

        • Ilovelife

          That’s interesting. Jack said he was on holiday. I wonder what’s really going on?

    • Aucky

      Not Jack Tame? You just wait kayaker – he’s a wall to wall socialist.

    • wilson

      Mike hosking is a secret teacher. All his holidays coincide with the school holidays. Maybe Katie can’t look after the kids by herself

      • MaryLou

        Or, being 2014, she’s busy working and he has to share the load?!

        • wilson

          Not sure. In a 2014 article it says kate is a stay at home mum (not that that isn’t a job). Don’t know why when ever hosking is away, on TV or the radio. They replace him with the complete opposite of him

          • MaryLou

            Sorry Wilson, knee-jerk reaction! Reason for opposite type of replacement is there aren’t many like him left… Mike, Larry, Leighton…?

      • Disinfectant

        Have noted that he is always on holiday.

  • Platinum Fox

    I was offered a free copy of The Horrid by three different paper vendors on Queen Street (one at Wellesley St and two corners at Victoria St) early this afternoon.
    NZME must be getting desperate?

    • Moonroof

      Guess so. I had a sub that I cancelled several years ago, they’ve been trying call me for weeks (I don’t pick up blocked numbers), and resorting to sending a voucher for five weeks of free ones (ignored).

    • ProudChiwiSince1990

      Got a call from Horrid trying to get me back on the subs a few weeks back. I told them I don’t have any spare money for tabloid rubbish.

    • Aucky

      Got to get the audited circulation up PF even if they have to give them away.

      • Platinum Fox

        The auditor needs to be a little more diligent then. A copy given away shouldn’t count – I saw guys with handfuls of copies trying to push them on everyone who passed by. I assumed that those who took a free copy had a need for something to light their charcoal barbeques with.

    • Edward Bufe

      I was also offered a weeks free subscription and had to tell them to shove it. They queried to the why. Explained it was useless as toilet paper even my cat wont use it. They cautioned me to say they were recording the message and I had to tell them I would inform my cat and ask it why it refused to use their paper as well. Then there was the inevitable click and the phone went dead, silence at last.

      • Dave

        They can send me three months free subscrition if they want to, gladly accepted, as long as its send same day delivery, shouldn’t be too difficult as they have a three hour advantage.

      • Platinum Fox

        Your cat perhaps doesn’t like the smell of the ink?
        I’d have insisted that the message be passed on to the editor verbatim. I do wonder though if it’s ethical for them to record calls that they initiate; it’s fair enough if an organisation records calls received for use in training its customer service team, provided the fact calls are recorded is mentioned up front.
        Happily The Horrid lost track of me when I moved a couple of years ago and changed my landline number (though I could have kept the old one), so I now only receive the ‘to the householder’ discount or free offers and they go directly to the recycling bin.

  • Captain Darling

    I see 126 people have been referred to the police for voting twice at the last election.
    I assume Martyn Martin Bradbury is one of those, or maybe two.

    • Cowgirl

      And he was wrong both times.

    • Spiker

      I wonder if we’ll get to know who the votes were cast for?

    • Mrs_R

      I have a feeling Martyn Martin is a little more cunning and devious than the average double voter. As I understand it the majority of those being referred to police voted twice under the same name. Martyn Martin however got tricky by registering twice under two different names so he may well have got away with it (assuming of course he voted twice).

  • Yeahright

    Classic Christmas, brass band in the street tonight, awesome, thanks guys.

    • Cowgirl

      Today we were crossing the road for a walk alongside the Bow River, and while we were waiting at the lights, Santa and Mrs Claus drove past on a motorbike waving to everyone. Unfortunately didn’t have my camera!

      • kehua

        Did the mossies pick ya up and drop you on the ground. Biggest mossies in the World liv eon the Bow River, might be a bit cold for them now. Have you been for a beer at `Ranchmans` yet?

        • Cowgirl

          Too cold for mossies – the river is nearly iced over!

      • Dave

        Might be a differnet Bow River, but still a classic worth a few minutes.

        http://youtu.be/y2by810nulE

    • Gaynor

      Awww I miss the Sally’s at xmas time …

    • Aucky

      Great stuff. Where are the Sallies these days?

    • Dave

      Big “ups” to the Sally’s, seasonal cheer, we miss that over here. Come rain shine or otherwise, we can always rely on the sallys to bring some quiet cheer.

  • Nige.

    So tvnz one news run a story about how maori Iwi representative for global warming (whaaa? who the hell cheated THAT job title) at sticking one up Tim grosser…..almost pushing him to the point of doing nothing, so it seems (which would be good) …… immediately followed by another story about how next year we are all likely to have to pay Iwi to go to the beach…..

    are Iwi trying to make enemies? Why do they get paid out just to make trouble and then put their hands out a bit further? where does the money go?

    Certainly doesn’t go towards paying to get my Maori missus teeth fixed.

  • ozbob68

    So i saw the latest pictures of Prince George and thought 2 things,
    a) Cute outfit, and
    b) Poor little tyke doesn’t realise yet that baldness is hereditary

    • Cowgirl

      Isn’t it hereditary down the matrilineal line? If Kate’s dad still has his hair, Prince George stands a chance of keeping his.

      • Wallace Westland

        Paternal

        • Cowgirl

          The jury seems to be out – the evidence is conflicting, but I X my fingers for Prince George anyway.

        • ozbob68

          I’m stuffed whichever way it goes.

        • yossarian

          I read somewhere that although there are other causes, the major one causing baldness is to do with the X chromosome which is passed by mothers to their sons. In my family my father in law was bald, my father had a full head of hair and so do I, but my son is balding in his late 30s. The X chromosome explanation seems to work for us.

          • I.M Bach

            I’m the youngest of six, with three older brothers. Our father died at 88 with a full head of hair but my grandfather (on my mother’s side) was bald as a badger. I have lost most of my hair, the nexy brother up has all his and the oldest brother is as bald as me. Go figure. (The girls are fine.)

      • Alright

        See, here’s the thing: I cant believe the things I learn here everyday from people like you. Not joking.

    • 1951

      He’s pretty cute.

    • caochladh

      Yul Brynner was one of my favourite actors.

  • Isherman

    Just been checking the Twitter feeds of opposition MP’s, not one of the ones I’ve checked have any comments of sympathy for our mates across the ditch, holed up in a hostage situation. This includes Norman, Turei, Harre, Little, Goff, Mallard. Sad, but perhaps not surprising. The PM has tweeted that he has been in touch with Tony Abbot.

    • Pluto

      You have a very sad way of entertaining yourself.
      Ever thought of something more fun, eating fish hooks maybe ?

      • Isherman

        Oh I don’t know, after all, much of what they have to say is laughable. Its not something I subject myself to all the time, just wanted to see if there were any exceptions to the deafening silence.

        • Nige.

          there’s nothing wrong with a bit of “observing” what our leaders are and AREN’T doing. Silence speaks volumes.

          ( im quite happy that im not the only “sad” one out there!)

    • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

      May be they can send Keith Locke over there along with Turei. They can preach the terrorists the value of love and kindness….

    • Cowgirl

      Proof once again that when the rubber meets the road and real action must be taken, these guys are M.I.A.

  • yossarian

    I wonder who paid for these Iwi troughers to get there, who the hell it was who decided it was a good idea to take them, and exactly what purpose was being served on behalf of the long suffering taxpayer. I was already irate hearing the Waikaremoana story this morning, Waitangi Tribunal making stuff up again, so-called grievances going back 70 years, Maori spokesman deriding the Crown as “supremely arrogant” in one breath and then calling for “no finger pointing” in the next. Now I am totally p’d off, the one thing that John Key’s government makes me really upset is their arrogant disregard of most of us to appease the Maori claimants. Some years ago Winston had it right when referring to “sickly white liberals”, he knew exactly what was going on.

    • colin herbertson

      maybe this appeasement has something to do with the coalition with the maori party.

  • mommadog

    I was just reading about George Orwell and wanted to share some relevant quotes. A cleaver man:
    “Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.”

    “In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia.”

    “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

    “Threats to freedom of speech, writing and action, though often trivial in isolation, are cumulative in their effect and, unless checked, lead to a general disrespect for the rights of the citizen.”

  • Platinum Fox

    The Horrid has an article headlined “Coroner calls for lap-belts in tractors” online accompanied by a photo of a tractor which appears to be harrowing the plough at a racecourse (Hastings I suspect).
    I don’t understand the relevance of the photograph to the story – even I could probably circumnavigate that course, which is basically flat, without incident (I last drove a tractor when I was about 13, so nearly 50 years ago). And, BTW, on reading the article apparently the two tractor deaths the coroner was officiating in relation to both occurred on steep country and involved tractors that were fitted with lap-belts.

    • Dave

      That PF, is a clear indication the PUP repeater read the editors memo:

      All reporters and Sub-Editors are to STOP using photos of the Whangarei Fire Engine for stories, the photo must have at least some resemblance to the story.

      • Platinum Fox

        I suspect that The Horrid has a very limited portfolio of stock photos Dave, so perhaps the Whangarei fire engine is the only one they have a shot of.
        My suspicion is that The Horrid is just lazy.
        Property articles generally have a shot from North Head looking over Devonport towards the city or of St Marys Bay houses looking uphill towards the [Catholic] Bishop’s palace (it has a square turret). If I’ve seen the latter shot once in the last month, I’ve seen it five times, but it’s been pulled out many times over the past seven or so years (I can date it by the colour of a roof that was mine). A slight variation appeared this week when a cropped version was used.

  • ozbob68

    First christmas with the new employer, we get our festive hams on Wednesday this week. And any unclaimed by Friday go to the homeless shelter (nice touch).

  • Complete coincidence of course, but made a comment about the worlds greatest sysop being “supercilious” and, then couple hours later seeing him ban someone for being “superlicious “. Bless.

    • Dave

      Oh dear, suggest 5 Hail Mary’s, half a bottle of whiskey, a bath in a mild caustic soda, scrub well, a day at a mountin retreat praying, deep breathing and yoga, followed by several weeks reading WOBH, you should have recovered from your dalliance with the dark side early next year!

      • Alright

        Award winning humour Dave. Love it!

        You should write a column on Freed….

  • Lux

    The spooky thing is, the photo I was going to use today, I did not know enough information about it, to use it .. I think I have esp ..

    • Isherman

      Do you use any particular formula or system for finding a topic to inspire your Photo of the day?, you come up with some real pearlers.

      • Lux

        To be honest , no nothing .. sometimes .. no ..ok sometimes something ..
        Edit to say: thank you, for the pearlers..

  • Steely Man

    I saw this letter from Albert to Madame Curie. Thought it was a useful reflection for some in New Zealand today….

  • Dave

    Evening all. Whilst the hostage situation continues, I am aghast at the level of repeating by some media over here clamering for any scrap of a story, rewriting stuff and so on.

    Then this sub headline……

    POLICE have promised to “work into the night” to resolve the Sydney hostage crisis

    Um, I wonder if the repeater thought that through, what were the Polices alternatives? “Stuff you mate, we dont care we are all going home, any issues call us on 111, see you tomorrow at 8.00 am”

    What a ridiculous headline, and they wonder why we are switching off them, here is a better headline, with the teacher / homework ethic “Johnny has said he will work til late to finish his homework……

    “Police have confirmed full resources to work through the night to resolve the Crisis peacefully, time is on our side”

    • Isherman

      I’ll bet they are ‘skilled and trained’ too.

    • Alright

      LOL.

      ….but it would surely be “Back at 10.30 am. We have Christmas shopping to do.”

    • ShoreRight

      I saw that and thought the exact same thing – loved the “promised” bit – like a troop of Boy Scouts repeating their ode – they’d be rostered on and wouldn’t have any choice and would think many would want to see this through to a resolution anyway !

  • Imogen B

    Christmas cake in the oven, due out shortly. Whole house smells delicious.

  • NotGandalf

    Wondering if intelligence resources are monitoring the web for ‘threads of interest’ around the current drama in Sydney, unsecured Facebook pages, Twitter etc for particular comments, rants etc – I mean this from the perspective that IS followers and cheerleaders might well expose their sentiments and give themselves away.

    • MaryLou

      I don’t know but have been watching things on Sky news Aus, where they made clear that journalists are working with police to make sure they’re not assisting gunman by publishing stuff police want kept quiet. Then turn on Paul Henry show, and learnt a few things! Huh…

  • Isherman

    Signing off with a random wee gem from 69..night all.

    • Lux

      Love that song ..

      • ShoreRight

        Same – have always loVed that song – thanks for the memories…

    • Alright

      We know where you go to….

      You bugger off to bed!

    • Alright

      Isherman, (or is it really Fisherman?) do you know any Maggies from 1969ish?

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