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  • Carl

    Remember to buckle up these holidays. (pic)

  • cows4me

    Watching TV1 news about the lady in Cairns that killed her eight children. Had all of the grieving fathers crying their eyes out because of their dead children, oh please. Questions been asked about how this could happen, oh please. Just a hint, five fathers one woman might be a start. A second hint might be our idiot culture that pretends this is all cool and it should never be challenged.

    • Blue Tim

      Couldn’t agree more.

    • Lion_ess

      Perhaps our idiot culture pretends it’s all cool because chances are the fathers are possibly relatives as well – and that would be waaaay too confronting.

      • cows4me

        I guess anything is possible Lion_ess, I blame a society that constantly choses a path of least resistance and will support all manner of dysfunctional individuals and so called families in the belief that all beliefs, cultures and life styles deserve no condemnation but all shall have the great joy for paying for such nonsense.

        • Lion_ess

          I spent a bit of time up in their islands – it was very confronting. Most of the girls were pregnant at 14 – and they’re all relatives. Not saying that’s the case here, but it’s fairly likely.

          • cows4me

            Is that not the way it’s always being?
            I think it’s wrong that we as a western, Christian culture are forced to support their way of life and can not challenge social systems such as theirs. Been forced to support this rubbish just perpetuates the problem

          • Jimmie

            Trouble is cows is that for the last 30 plus years we have been told (and mostly accepted) that Christianity and Western Culture/Freedoms are the cause of all the evils in the world today.

            Modern Western society has castrated itself to the point that there is no longer any foundation for the systems it now operates.

            Everything is relative (especially sexual morality) so if someone is Aussie wants to marry their sister/cousin/child and have children with them when they are 13/14/15 who is to say it’s wrong?

            Doesn’t matter about the consequences of such stupid immoral decisions. Everyone does what is right in their own eyes. (Now where does that quote come from?)

            I went to an incident a week ago(in NZ) where a 17 year old girl was having an argument with her 15 year old boyfriend. (he possibly had beaten her up – who could tell)

            They had a 13 month old child together – no family/financial support. (Do the maths on ages when that child was conceived) Just another alternative modern lifestyle choice

      • Cadwallader

        Serious questions: Is incest prevalent in the Torres Strait islands?Is it not taboo there? Are the fathers of these children likely to be as close as brothers/cousins? I have no idea.

        • Lion_ess

          Extremely prevalent. Many of the islands have 3 or 400 people who are all related, additionally related to the people on the other islands also.

  • caochladh

    This canine could be a politician…….

  • Ginny

    Hoping that Christmas day is as nice as it is today in the Wairarapa.

  • pisces8284 .

    Well, looks like Christmas is cancelled at our place this year after all. Despite my best attempts #1 daughter is not speaking to #2 daughter and won’t be in the same room with her. I have tried telling them to pull their heads in and attempted diplomacy to no avail, and have a turkey defrosting in the fridge as we speak. Looks like Mr Pisces and I will be eating turkey until well into New Year. All joking aside, it’s incredibly upsetting and I can’t believe how hurtful adult children can be. I would never have considered being so cruel to my parents in my day. If they had been alive.

    • Ginny

      Snap!

      • pisces8284 .

        Maybe ‘Merry Christmas’ is a pipe dream invented by the MSM and if you don’t reach the mark you feel you have failed. I’m sure I am not the only family with issues

    • Lion_ess

      Hope you and Mr Pisces have a great Christmas anyway – make a point of it:)

    • cows4me

      Put the boot in, I wouldn’t let my kids get away with that crap. If they are to old for the boot then tell them not to bother to come, you don’t need the grief, or you could tell them to try to pretend they are now suppose to be grown up.

      • pisces8284 .

        I need to be married to you cows hehe, you’d tell them (I presume you are a guy??)

        • cows4me

          I’d tell them alright. I feel sorry for you pisces. You are the one that is being played by your daughters, it’s horrible. Yes I would tell them, they would get the message. I had three sisters and I know the crap they try to pull. Don’t try to be the peacemaker tell them straight out how you feel.

          • pisces8284 .

            But I’m a PISCES! If I was a Sagittarius I would….

          • cows4me

            I’m a Pisces to but I’m afraid I’m probably a white pointer.

          • Cadwallader

            I didn’t have daughters so I am not really qualified, but think ahead once they have boyfriends they’ll leave you alone. That is my theory only and doesn’t cater for trauma when the boyfriends take a hike. I feel for you though.

          • Wendy

            I am and I did. Makes for lots of peace and quiet.

          • I.M Bach

            I have three sisters too; salute.

          • Dave

            Totally agree with you C4M. We have one very disruptive family member, constantly nitpicking and ruins everyone else’s family time. A few years ago I sent him packing from family celebrations at our home. He had received 2 warnings and the third time he was delivered to the naked bus terminal with a prepaid ticket and $25 for food along the way. He knows damn well if he acts up again, he will be leaving within seconds, no matter the time of day or night or how hungry or cold he might be. It’s tough, especially with one so close but sometimes tough love is the only way

    • patriot

      Ditto here. Mothers and daughters! Sigh.

      • pisces8284 .

        Give me sons any day….

        • patriot

          I wouldn’t know, but boys certainly sound less dramatic and not so moody?

        • Sally

          Then you would have daughter-in-laws. Probably worse.

        • MaryLou

          You’re likely to end up with a daughter in law that way though. As my mother in law said: “No one likes their daughter in law”!

          Edit: Sorry, Sally – repeating you!

    • Effluent

      Likewise, wishing you a happy Christmas. They’ll grow out of it eventually, and hopefully may even get over it in time to unspoil your day.

    • Hollyfield

      I agree with cows and lion_ess. Could you and Mr Pisces go away for a few days, perhaps spend Christmas with friends out of town or spoil yourselves with a visit to a new city – remove yourselves from your daughters. I would pleasantly and politely tell the daughters that since you can’t have a traditional family Christmas this year you are doing something totally new in a different environment, act happy and excited about it and give them something to think about. Perhaps invite them both together to a family event on New Years’ Day so they know you love them both and want to be with them, and they have time between Christmas and New Year to think about their behaviour.

      As a side note, they don’t know how lucky they are to have each other, I have longed to have a sister.

      • ex-JAFA

        You can have several of mine! (Except those who comment here – of course I don’t mean you :-) )

    • ex-JAFA

      Still not talking? In my experience (and to my eternal bafflement), women will fall out over the most trivial of things, but quickly make up even over something really serious. At least with blokes, it takes a helluvalot to split us up, and it’s permanent when it happens.

      • caochladh

        My other half came from a farming community in Waerenga. Apparently, their maxim was “once out, never in”.

        • 40something

          I lived there as a child – takes clique to a whole new level.

    • caochladh

      I wouldn’t bother pursuing them. I would rather enjoy the day with good food and the good company of my other half instead of putting up with the bickering, arguing and unglad tidings.

      • Wendy

        Same. My rule is get happy or get out of my space.

    • Nige.

      oh great. so this is what i have to look forward to in 20 years! ARGHHH!!!

      easy to say i know but, tell your girls to take a look at what has happened in Cairns and be thankful they weren’t brought up in an environment like that.

      we have so much to be thankful for in this part of the world, but its going to get tougher and tougher so now more than ever families need to stick together.

      funny how kids revert back to being children as soon as they go back to mum and dads place. even as adults.

      (share/link your comment on their sookbook pages. if you need help ask the helpline. go on. it might make them buck up their ideas to see how your feeling in writing…of course the rest of the facebook world would then see that we are normal people with normal problems….not baby hating right wing feral hating national party puppets like the msm want everyone to believe….second thoughts….DONT SHARE)

    • Salacious Crumb

      Yes, ’tis the season to be Grumpy Teenagers alright. Can thoroughly recommend Nigel Latta’s “Politically Incorrect Guide to Teenagers”. Has preserved our sanity. Ask Santa to drop one under the tree.

      Edit: sorry misread: didn’t spot the “adult children” part. Hope it resolves for you.

    • jude

      That is very sad to hear. Make sure you and Mr Pisces have a very merry Christmas.
      I hope that ,knowing how hurt you both are by your daughters behavior, this may bring a resolution in the New Year.

    • 40something

      Whilst I sympathise with you totally it is a tricky thing and despite best efforts they will resolve their dispute over time themselves. I personally like you think we all should make an effort at Christmas. However, sometimes whatever hurt takes a few years to heal. I had a blazing row with my mother last week at her ‘persistent insistence’ that my husband, myself and our four children attend Christmas at her sisters. She hates her sisters, I’m not fond of them and the kids don’t care. My feeling is that now my grandmother has passed on I have no obligation on top of everything else to attend. I’ve been there for 44 out of 46 years so I feel I’ve made an effort for relatives. Still we are at an impasse.
      I hope it works out for you. In the meantime enjoy time with your man, you deserve it.

    • OAP

      Easily solved. You 2 go out for lunch, leave the kids behind & they will soon come to their senses. The house will be very quiet & you will have a peaceful lunch. Been there, done that, got the T shirt.

  • Nige.

    who is on holiday? any good? highlite so far?

    • Greg M

      Holidays? I’ve heard about them. The good thing is most of my customers are now on holiday so I get to relax a wee bit. I’m in the office now so I can really slack about tomorrow. :-)

    • LabTested

      Sovereign Hill gold town Ballart yesterday. Good day for younger kids. They enjoyed panning for gold in the creek. I thought the melting & gold pour ($160k ingot) was impressive. Lots of 1850’s stuff to do. Full day family entertainment. 1.5 hours out of Melbourne.

      Today is 32° to hot to do anything but sweat.

    • Tom

      A couple of mates and I made a 100m slippery slide on the side of Mt Hobson today. Damn good fun. Still, have few more days work to do yet…

      • caochladh
        • Tom

          Yeah I’ve seen those at work, they have a launch ramp etc and go down standing up on boogie boards and all sorts. Plain Jane slide is safe as houses, the show offs are always the ones that get mangled ;)

      • Wendy

        Are you one of the people who graffittis a male appendage on Mt Hobson every year?

        We think its hilarious…every year without fail.

        • Tom

          Nah not me, seen them however and always have a good chuckle

      • Nige.

        100M !!! awesome! i made a… maybe 5 meter one on the stop bank out the back of my house for the kids the other week, and ITs fun. I can only imagine how cool yours is. Photo?

        • Tom

          It was loooooong

          • Cadwallader

            I am truly envious. Years and years ago some mates and I created a mud-slide of about 20m into a deep part of a South Island river (Opihi I think.) That was great fun but yours sounds exceptional. I hope you get to give it a hiding in the next few weeks/months!

          • Tom

            Mate organised it, the plan sounds like we’ll be doing another in early Jan. Kids go really well, 5-10 goes and they’re knackered from running back up the hill haha I suspect there’s a few parents enjoying a quiet evening tonight!

          • Cadwallader

            I just hope the damn council don’t try to ban your fun. Actually Len isn’t heading for a skate….?

          • Tom

            Can’t see how/why. No mess left behind, no damage to grounds etc. half the reason we used Mt Hobson is that there are still cows grazing all over it. If cows can trample up and down and poo all over it full time then why shouldn’t we slide down some tarps for a giggle on a Sunday afternoon.

            Mind you, this is the Auckland Council we’re talking about. You’re probably right.

          • Wendy

            Where did you get your water supply from?

          • Tom

            There’s a cattle trough on the top of the mountain under the trees, quick dash with a bucket

        • Tom

          As seen from the motorway. Loads of kids arrived and had a crack, even some of the parents!

        • Tom

          The bits making up the slide are old billboard ‘skins’. Perfect for the job, but bloody heavy. The cows at the bottom didn’t seem that fazed until one fellah went down on a lilo….

      • cows4me

        I hope you and your mates are wearing helmets, you would not want the work and safety Nazis visiting.

        • Tom

          One kid had body armour. Just hurled himself in and had a ton of fun

    • Wendy

      Number Two and I went for our first swim today followed by enormous ice creams.

      • ex-JAFA

        I haven’t had a number two while swimming for many years. Other people find it offensive.

        • Dave

          Not to mention the work cleaning and sanitising the pool afterwards. Not easy.

  • onelaw4all

    This is the result of tireless race-baiting in the U.S. from the president all the way down to the usual suspects “on the ground” in the wake of Garner and Ferguson:

    http://weaselzippers.us/208694-assassin-who-killed-two-nypd-officers-identified-as-28-yr-old-black-male-ismail-brinsley/

    I fear this is only the beginning..

    • cows4me

      I personally believe Obummer and his inner administration won’t be happy till the US implodes. He said today his work is not yet done, God help the USA.

  • Peter Maguire

    Seen this? Paddy goes for it in the library. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzSxCOsKDNs&feature=youtu.be

    • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

      He’s all class isnt he.

  • Sally

    Andrea Vance has listed her choice of 7 people who have influenced politics from the outside the Beehive in 2014

    1. Hager
    2. Deyi Stone Shi
    3. Tania Billingsley
    4. Donghau Liu
    5. David Farrar
    6. Edward Snowdon
    7. Amanda Banks
    What a strange list. Some of them are more wishful thinking on her part.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/64367182/influencing-politics-from-the-outside

    • caochladh

      Well, that just proves she is somewhat deranged.

      • Sally

        Maybe she needs to be FREED.

    • pisces8284 .

      and no Whale Oil, which was the biggest influence in my opinion

      • Sally

        Think that would be a step too far. She put Farrar to make up for it. She had a dig that Farrar was on Key’s speed dial.

    • Chris EM

      A very strange list. Does she even live in New Zealand?

      • I think she is in New Zealand but off in some weird alternative dimension, so I guess not really here.

      • Cadwallader

        No she does not and proves it everyday. I think she has a parallel universe within which she interviews herself?

    • cows4me

      She’s probably right about Hager, he influenced more to vote National than most of those standing for National.

      • Sally

        In the same vain KDC should also have made the list.

        • dgrogan

          Not to mention, Cam. I guess she’s hoping if she ignores him he’ll simply go away. Good luck with that one, Vance.

      • ozbob68

        Agreed, I recall one commentator saying that KDC and hager scared National voters into turning out in droves.

    • Hard1

      To put it into context, Andrea Vance is striving hard to sell advertising. Only that.

      • Aucky

        Andrea Vance is trying to sell Andrea Vance. Big fish/little pond and she’s still got no cut through.

        • ozbob68

          yeah am surprised she did not put katie bradford on there.

    • Nige.

      just goes to show HER relevance.

  • Hard1

    Perhaps Chaplin’s greatest movie speech, as relevant today as it was way back then…

  • TonyM

    Business wise at the moment things are tough, but it’s amazing how a weekend of stunningly good weather down in Christchurch will make you feel better (raining now since about 5.30).

    Number 1 son (9yo) has down syndrome and we are considering getting him a trike as so far attempts to teach him to ride a bike are not so successful. We take him on a trailer bike at the moment when we go out, but this is quite hard work to keep steady and stable especially of nice sealed paths. Anyone with any experience purchasing trikes in NZ that could recommend where we could get some quotes from? So far we have one quote and it is scary expensive….

    • ex-JAFA

      Good luck! In my (limited) experience, Downs people are more intelligent, interesting, sociable and generally agreeable to be around than even most “normal” people. Never met one I didn’t instinctively like straight away, and that’s not due to pity or me being politically correct.

      • Nige.

        if the whole world were Down’s…. gee there would be so many hugs and smiles. same experiences as you, by the sounds of it.

        • Cadwallader

          …and they’d all be fat too happy to be lefties too! Interesting to ponder.

          • Nige.

            Far be it for me to correct spelling… R is right next to T lol

        • ex-JAFA

          There’s a lot to be said for an extra chromosome or two between friends.

    • Wendy

      Seen this?

      • TonyM

        Yes thanks Wendy…. not cheap. But a nice system that would last a long time.

    • Chris EM

      How much are they, Tony?

  • LabTested

    Just on channel 9 news. New South Wales will trial medical cannabis – as soon as they have worked out if they can import it or the government has to grow it themselves. The NSW premier was saying its a no brainer & why should kids suffer (my words)

    What was interesting – this item was 30 minutes into the 6pm news. So not a major story at all. (Free inner city trams was more contentious)

  • Wendy

    Here’s an oldie to put a smile on your faces…

  • dgrogan

    A Christmas version of Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah.

    • Greg M

      Wow, that brought a tear to the eye. Really uplifting version of one of my favourites.

    • intelligentes candida diva

      Beautiful in any version

    • Dave

      Thanks, am a big LC fan, we saw him live here in Townsville, well worth the price, he was amazing despite his advancing years.

  • Spiker

    I have a Landcruiser FJ40 sitting in my shed that belongs to a mate. He didn’t bother keeping the rego live after it failed a WOF 10 years ago & its been parked up ever since. The repairs don’t seem too much of a big deal, just some minor rust & new brake & clutch cylinders should do it.Does anyone know how much of a drama would it be to get it registered again?

    • MaryLou

      It’ll need to be re-complied, but that’s not really too much of a major if condition good. Prob around $250, then WOF and rego

      • Spiker

        Well that dosn’t sound too serious. With the price of petrol coming down I’m thinking it would be good to get out for a bit of summer fun.

        • MaryLou

          Definitely! Get the rust sorted and anything else – check seatbelts etc in case they’ve degraded, make sure all other bits working smoothly – ie windows, locking mechanisms, seat adjustments. Compliance is structural mostly

          • Dave

            I would add go over the electrics, especially any areas that have been wet, clean any corrosion away and treat. Corroded electrics act as a resistor and can cause serious issues.

          • MaryLou

            Yes, didn’t think of that….

    • MaryLou

      PS Nice looking landcruiser!

      • Spiker

        Yeah its in good shape. As you might see its a left hand drive one, a Canadian import.

        • MaryLou

          Ah, sorry didn’t notice that. It has been regstered here before, yes? There are only a certain amount of vehicles from overseas that can be complied each year, and the waiting list tends to be long!

          EDIT: Sorry, when I say overseas I mean special category vehicles, not your average import…

          • Spiker

            Yep has still got the old plates & rego in the windscreen. exp 11/04

          • MaryLou

            Should be ok then, but I’m not sure what that’ll do to compliance costs. Maybe somewhat higher, but worth it still! Looks very nice – somewhat envious! Wish I had one in my garage :)

          • Spiker

            I’m trying to determine roughly what its worth to offer him for it. I figure it could be fairly desirable if it were road legal. But as it is it’s just good for going for a skid around the farm.

          • MaryLou

            Make him the offer before doing the work then :) It’ll definitely make a difference to price. I don’t imagine there are too many of them the same around! Let me know if you want me to do some digging on prices – have a few people that could help :).

          • Spiker

            Thanks for that, I’ll make a mental note of it. :-)

    • caochladh

      Needs to have WOF before you can register. make sure you check the neoprene seals in all the brake cylinders.

    • 1951

      I have my mothers Mk one Escort that the kids won’t let me sell. Last active in the Undie500 about six years ago. What I noticed was the tires were a bit flat so had it lifted up on blocks. I guessing they would need to be replaced. I doubt the battery would be much good now either. I can imagine your budget will be stretched somewhat.

      • Spiker

        I don’t recall ever not having a stretched budget. Just out of shot is a super tidy Mk4 Cortina as well. Thats mine & all road legal.

        • 1951

          Just loaded photo. That looks like too much fun. It looks in good knick for being out in an open shed.

          • Spiker

            Its only been in this shed for a year & I’ve pushed it back under cover since the pic was taken. Before that it was in a good dry locked garage.

          • 1951

            It would be a crime to leave it another 10yrs. Let me know if you want to do the Molesworth in it, I will be happy to come & open the 28 gates for you.

    • jonno1

      Could it fall foul of the continuous registration rules? Maybe not, but it would pay to check in case you’re hit for 10 years of retro rego. Even if it’s been cancelled there might be a bit owing.

      • MaryLou

        There’s a good point. If the reg just lapsed rather than being put on hold or cancelled, there may well be money owing. Also you need to return the old plates to LTSA (or hand in to VTNZ), you’ll get new ones when you register it for the first time after compliance…

        Edit to add: But it won’t be 10 years reg, max 2 years…

      • Wallace Westland

        It’s not a huge drama if there haven’t been any modifications done to it. You just need to get a new VIN. There will be engineers in your area licensed to issue a VIN. They go over the vehicle with a fine tooth comb so there are costs attached.
        For the inspection and of course any defects and they are likely to find a few.

  • Nige.

    have an ozzy xmas m/

  • ozbob68

    Saw this on One News about families getting pinged for medical costs incurred by visiting relatives. How easy would it be to insist that anyone coming to NZ for a holiday has travel & medical insurance for the period they are staying?

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/south-auckland-dhb-hires-debt-collectors-recover-6m-6210160

    • Wendy

      Many of these are high risk patients with pre-existing conditions. Insurance wouldn’t cover lots of them for their pre-existing conditions.

      • ex-JAFA

        They do seem to have a penchant for dialysis and diabetes treatments.

        • ozbob68

          well, if the cost of recovery is more than a plane ticket back to home, we could offer to pay the fare. Two problems solved.

          • Wendy

            So then you get into the ethics of do we want to send people with critical illness back to a country (specifically pacific islands) where there isn’t appropriate treatment and where they will die because of it?

            Edit: I don’t have any answers…it is a complex, difficult and upsetting dilemma which I have first hand experience of.

          • ozbob68

            True, it is kind of like asylum seekers, how to grant access to those to deserve it but deter the rest from trying and overloading the resources available.

  • Alright

    My “love affair” with Annie Lennox continues unabated.

    ….having watched this video I am convinced she is David Bowie’s sister!

    • MaryLou

      Funny you should say that! That’s one of those random thoughts that pop up whenever I see her too

      • Alright

        Watch the video ML…proof positive…

        • 1951

          I’m rattling back in very distant memory here, David did have a sister but I’m pretty sure she was mentally ill/schitzophenia. Annie is definitely not that.

          • Alright

            Definitely not my Annie. She is exceptionally cogent. I watched (and posted) a link to a BBC doco about her tracing her family routes this past week. She was exceptionally polite and engaging.

            The BBC still do that stuff very well.

        • MaryLou

          Yep – that’s it, I’m convinced…

          • Alright

            I sometimes simply don’t believe how entertaining and LOL funny this community can be. It took me about three minutes to stop laughing at your reply above ML.

            When I stopped I wondered whether we should start a genetic fund project to have them both mapped. Your thoughts?

          • MaryLou

            I wonder if it’s at all deliberate? It’s most obvious at the beginning of some sentences when she takes a breath, but the dress and hairstyle add to it.

          • Alright

            Probably deliberate. That’s entertainment. Love them both.

            Bowie has a brain the size of a planet. Sold his music rights to Sony a million years ago for (from memory) $650 million.

    • kehua

      Which album was the `Billie Halliday` song sung by Annie from, I think you posted it last week?

      • Alright

        I can’t recall. Was it “Someone Saved the World Today?”

        “1951” probably has a better idea than me. Apparently older than me but obviously as sharp as tack!

      • Isherman

        I posted her version of Strange Fruit, if that’s the one you are thinking of. Its on her album “Nostalgia’.

        • I.M Bach

          I think that’s going to have be a ‘must buy’ over the holidays. I might even revist her Medusa and Diva albums, never a dull moment with that lady.

          • I.M Bach

            Might I add…….?

        • Alright

          You are a good person. Any chance of reposting the link?

          • Isherman

            No worries at all..enjoy.

          • Alright

            Thank you. So a whole new dimension. Now I know what Mrs Alright can get me for Christmas.

          • kehua

            That`s the one , many thanks.

    • I’m Right

      She is a great singer…but another ‘celebrity’ with millions in the bank telling us all her political thoughts and what the world could do better!…sighhh

  • jude

    Just back from watching the Hobbit.
    I am a sook, so yes I did cry at the end.
    The scenery is spectacular. Another Jackson movie that New Zealanders can be proud of, in my opinion:)

    • MaryLou

      Oh, no. I haven’t seen it yet, but thanks for the warning re tissues. Kids give me a hard time about my reaction to sad movies – it seems to have got worse post-children. Was never that bad when I was younger!

      • jude

        The girls didn’t cry. I am a sook when it comes to sad bits in movies.
        Do see the movie, it is shorter and action packed! I will buy when it comes out on DVD:)

        • Alright

          Me too!

          Mrs Alright is more staunch…but only to a point: when I cry she most often does too!

          You have to laugh in the sad bits or else the tear ducts get a working over.

  • dgrogan

    She’s in a saxy mood.

    • intelligentes candida diva

      I have added Candy Dufler to my collection
      Here is my Montreux jazz festival selection hope you enjoy as much as I do

      Renee Olstead : Live at Montreux Jazz Festival 20…: http://youtu.be/yrm2Y33i0xw

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