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  • caochladh

    Does anyone else think the new weatherman on TV1 looks like an undertaker?

    • Wallace Westland

      What’s TV1?

      • ex-JAFA

        Women’s Weekly with moving pictures.

        • Wallace Westland

          Gave it up more than 15 years ago when the social engineering began. Man hating ad’s, reality TV and attempts at changing our lifestyle, removing personal freedoms and all the whinging.

          I turned it off and I’ve never turned it back on except for sport and the movie channel and kids channels on sky.
          I wouldn’t have a clue when someone mentions something on network TV.

          • Wallace Westland

            Caught an add during the cricket, UNICEF with it’s hand out for ebloa, do they have no shame? How is giving 95cents on the dollar for UNICEF admin fees going to cure ebola?

        • jcpry

          The “mother of the nation” did it for me. They gave her permission to emote when reading the news to indicate how we should feel.

    • Betty Swallocks

      Sorry to read your TV doesn’t have an off switch.

      • caochladh

        Hey BS, the news was highly entertaining with all those people complaining about the heat and being stuck in traffic. Yes, Auckland is a good place to be when everyone goes away!

    • Mark Harrison

      Yes, but he delivers the weather well.
      It’s a new thing at TVNZ – someone who does their job well and without leftie spin. He won’t last.

      • I.M Bach

        Many moons ago there was a guy named Phillip Liner who looked like a bit of a goose and always wore a bow-tie, but he was a well spoken gentleman and presented the news very eloquently. One of those people whose appearance was perfect for radio.

      • Read somewhere he is actually the head of the weather department?

      • caochladh

        I rarely take notice of the weather forecast, preferring just to look out the window.

      • MaryLou

        Can you have leftie weather? Oh – that’s when they tell you every day rain is imminent?

    • 1951

      When someone here changed channels for weather I had to take a close look after you writing that. As you say,maybe a touch of Fred Astaire style of undertaker, about ready to dash off to the studio next door in time for ‘Dancing with the Stars”.

    • cambridge01

      My wife does! He needs to dress casual and then he may grow on us.

    • Alright

      Mr Alright does! She’s starting a petition to Bring Back Jim (dead or alive)!

  • Sally

    So love staying at home this time of the year. Once everyone leaves Auckland it will be a pleasure to drive around and go shopping.

    • Wallace Westland

      Hence why I stay in town. No way is my patience bone developed enough for sharing the roads with the dummies (holiday makers tourists caravans and boats). Much happier here.

      • 1951

        Heh! We had to put-up with your lot in our supermarket up here. taking all the carparks, zombying around in holiday mode. I’m sure you’re made of sterner stuff.

        • Sally

          You should come down to Auckland and leave it to all the mad out-of-towners to boost the profit line of local businesses.

          • 1951

            I should do that. It happens every time there is a public holiday.The supermarkets sell out of bread, milk & papers by mid-morning because they can’t get their act together. Year after year, always the same.

        • Caprice

          Picture this – moved from the big smoke a few years ago, to Southland. Friday night around 8PM. Labour weekend. Big fishing contest on lake Te Anau and Manapouri. Last 76km home up the southern scenic route… NO vehicles on the road in either direction. NONE. ZERO.
          That first impression stuck with me, although I am used to it now.

          • ex-JAFA

            I drove from Auckland to Tauranga late last night. Zero vehicles travelling my way for the last 150km.

          • Caprice

            Flip side down here. I can also remember leaving a day early to get to the Airport for an overseas flight, in order to beat the snow, which closed the roads shortly after we got through.

          • 1951

            Whole change of culture, beautiful.

        • Michelle

          That is why l am not going to town next week only time the town is so full over any long weekend or silly season, good for the shops that open

        • Wallace Westland

          Yep and I’ll bet that not only did the halfwits take up all the carparks but that they also parked in such a way that they also took up so much of the carpark on one side of them that the person on that side either couldn’t get in or couldn’t open their door!

          But seriously I actually refuse to be on the roads with them. I spend a large part of my life driving I’m careful and considerate (I have been accused of driving like a Nana but that’s before we go 4 wheel driving or take a spin on a track) and no way am I playing with that lot. I refuse to be a holiday statistic.

    • I.M Bach

      You have a very good point. When we lived in Auckland it was actually a pleasure to ‘work through’ and enjoy the city without the traffic and the nuttiness. You also don’t need to take a cut lunch when travelling from A to B.

    • Cowgirl

      When I worked through the holiday period it was heaven as the bus was always near empty and got me to work early so I could leave early, and it was always super chilled with all the bosses away :)

  • ex-JAFA

    TV1’s look back at returning Vietnam vets left out vision of upcoming lefty politicians spitting on the soldiers.

    • I.M Bach

      And if anyone didn’t think that TV1 wasn’t lefty biased that should clear the matter up.

    • Bluemanning

      I know it is Christmas season but the MSM including left politicians spitting on the Vietnam Vets would be too much of a miracle!

  • Sailor Sam

    You mean to say that we should have seen a young Helen and Phil?

  • Wallace Westland

    Awesome day on the shore, BBQ was a roaring success, with those that can’t eat ham bringing their own food (well done them as I spent most of last night cleaning the old BBQ just in case)
    Beers went down a treat with the cricket on every TV in the place it’s been great fun. Awesome to have the Pakistani boys cheering the Black Caps.

    Place is calming down. Time for a clean up and a movie methinks with the ol’ feet up.

    • Wendy

      Sounds heavenful.

  • ex-JAFA

    You’ve got to hand it to Commie Dann. Not everyone can spot a cloud inside every silver lining.

  • George

    The sight of Helen Clark apologising to the Vietnam Vets on TV one news makes me sick. It was her and her socialist mates who made life unbearable for them for forty years. Portraying Clark as the instigator of putting things right is so wrong.

    • STAG

      Goff will be next saying he always believed in them.

      I can’t stand the Left.

      • Isherman

        I don’t think he would dare, unless he’s way dumber than I thought. In fact it’s a good point..go on Goff, I dare you to say you always respected them.

        • STAG

          The man lives in a deluded bubble, I wouldn’t put it past him.

          Despicable man.

          • Isherman

            Well I hope he does, that would be the end of him politically, and it would be an ugly end at that.

    • Tom

      It’s worth a post on its own: that, then the diggers telling her to shove it.

    • Nechtan

      Here was me thinking the Greens had cornered the market on being two faced but maybe its just a lefty thing.

    • Watcher

      Just another example of history being re-written George.
      It is nauseating that it is being done while the person (best I can say while wanting to vomit) is still breathing.

  • Isherman

    How about some Sabbath for a Saturday evening then eh…

    • I.M Bach

      Saw them live this year, they’ve still got it. (Even if Ozzy is a bit doddery.) I also thought Tony Clufetus was a good stand-in for Bill; he’s not Bill but he’s good.

  • Traffic heading North was bumper to bumper from Warkworth South to Just after Orewa turn off about noon today. It was ugly! So pleased was going South…

    • jude

      Heading to the bay tomorrow so lets hope we have missed the rush:)

      • Watcher

        You will be made welcome here in the BOP ( presuming you are coming to the real bay and not that pretend Hawke bay) ;-)

        • jude

          oops, Hawkes Bay:)

          • Watcher

            Ah well now, that does not count as the bay…sorry Jude.

      • Dave

        Safe travels Jude, enjoy the area and it has some great vineyards.

    • Not Clinically Insane

      It amazes me that people know its going to be like that, still leave in the midst of it all, and then complain and whinge

      • I.M Bach

        Sally has pointed out in an earlier post that this exodus has an upside; it leaves Auckland quite empty and a much nicer place. My wife and I usually tried for February leave to avoid such frustrations but one summer we had no option; we headed to the Coromandel and when we rode (on motorcycles) to the front of the queue at the one lane bridge in Kopu the abuse was an eye-opener. Can’t say I miss it all.

        • Sally

          We went camping to Coromandel one year between Xmas and New Year. I vowed never to go away at that time of the year ever again.

    • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

      We used to leave about 4 in the morning or after 10pm to beat the traffic.

  • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

    MSM mentioned how KDC saved the gaming world tonight.

    Really guys? Dont you have a cynical bone in your bodies? Trotting out the usual crap. No wonder I dont watch the news.

    • Watcher

      Ahem….excuse me , but if you don’t watch it, how did you know? Just asking

      • Excitedly awaiting Whodunnit

        Should have read don’t usually watch the news. I saw the Returning Vet story promo and waited for that to come on as I wandered around making dinner.

        I try to get my news from less biased means now.

        • Bluemanning

          Yeah I am similar I was interested because I missed the Aussie ballot, we were gathering dinner when Mrs Blau heard that KDC saved the day a lot of eye rolling and raised eyebrows occurred.

    • Sally

      He is loving the attention. He has now got all these crazy people kissing the mega logo on their computer screen.

      • All_on_Red

        I think they have ignored him. On Twitter Sony is still calling for patience as of about 3 minutes ago.

  • Wendy

    I have a question for you farming people…
    Do farmers typically know their yield per hectare?
    Or how else is productivity/profitibility of their land measured?

    • 1951

      In horticulture and probably grain/crop production, most definitely yield per hectare as the measure. (But seldom it is profitable and don’t ask me how, it takes an Einstein to work out tonnes of fruit per hectare. We’re just here for the lifestyle :))

      • Wendy

        Now you say that I remember I was forced to learn the mathematics of kiwifruit farming when I was at school (in Tauranga). It obviously didn’t make much of an impression on me.

        • Whafe

          Most Kiwifruit farmers would measure sold trays per Ha

          • 1951

            Same here, it gets tricky when trying to convert that into hectares.

          • Whafe

            Yes, especially in trays per canopy hectare…. LOLz

      • Michelle

        Are you farming beef as well ;-)

        • 1951

          I have someone else graze a few calves because I’m a big sook. The last time I had to send calves off for their ride on the big truck I put it off until they were nearly 3 yrs old. I gave my son a bag of granny smiths and told him to lead them to the yards whilst I left home for the day. The rest of the property is in avocadoes.

    • Bruno 32

      We measure grass growth by the day ,week,month and year. Measured in Kilograms of dry matter produced per hectare. Can then convert grass to milk ,meat and other animal products.

    • Whafe

      Wendy, in my opinion it has to be sold yield per hectare really.

      Big yields with poor pack outs is far from good….

      No good producing a bumper yield of 70 T / Ha of potatoes and only being able to sell 40 T / Ha, due to 30 T / Ha of waste

      • Wendy

        Yeah, I worded it badly. I should have said financial yield. Or profitability.

        • Dave

          Some might have varying yields, ie, prime land, $1500 per H/a. Less fertile soils, $800 per H/a. Both might be very suitable given the soil types care etc.

          • Wendy

            Yes, thanks Dave.

          • Dave

            Indicitive, the actuals will depend on hte markets, and the procuce type….. High one year, down the next. Our primary producers are really exposed to the markets, and the elements. C4M might be able to give far more precise numbers.

          • Alright

            This wee debate made me smile (out loud). Where else in the world could you have such an intelligent and eclectic blog. Just wonderful.

  • 40something

    Big day here today. Our baby left to live in London. 21, very gutsy and lovely and we will miss her heaps. Feel sad, scared and very happy for her all at once. Even though our nest is not empty it feels like it and I don’t know where the time went.

    • jude

      An exciting time for your daughter, all the best to her.!
      It is a nerve racking time for you. Our eldest did a stint in South Africa. Only as a volunteer for a month though:) I was so scared too!
      It is much easier to stay in touch with technology these days.
      I used to so look forward to the weekly letter my Mum used to write to me when I did my OE in England:)

      • 40something

        It is a bit scary. Even though I shunned it for ages thank god for Facebook. We can Skype and text. Makes me realise that when I went with my boyfriend now husband how hard it must have been for my parents with just a collect call home. So happy for her that she is fulfilling a long held ambition but will miss her like crazy.

        • jude

          I hope she has the time of her life over there and comes back with wonderful memories :)
          Always a good excuse for you to visit and have some fun with her over there too !

          • 40something

            Saving hard this year.

          • pisces8284 .

            The best part of kids living overseas is the opportunity to travel. My son is living in Turkey so I have had 3 trips there, my daughter taught in the middle east so have visited her in Doha, Abu Dhabi, Oman and Bali. I would have never been to these places so just take the opportunity to visit her as often as possible. London is a great launching pad to visit other countries as they are so close to everything. Skype and Facebook are great for keeping in touch. And they usually come home eventually, NZ has a way of drawing them back…..

  • ex-JAFA

    I was offline yesterday, so couldn’t post until today. Which means most will have missed it, and I wanted to gloat…

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/12/christmas-loot/#comment-1760019820

    • Isherman

      Nice, the glasses aren’t nicknamed “Winstons” around parliament circles are they?

      • ex-JAFA

        Ha ha, funny that – I was calling them “Winston’s spectacles – his pair of glasses”.

  • JAFA Gazza

    Steven Joyce needs to man up, grow a pair and tell Nigel Morrison to take a hike,

    • ex-JAFA

      True, but what about the land? Costs prior to a failure to sign the contract are split 50/50 – and the largest cost to date would’ve been buying the land off TVNZ. So taxpayers have to foot 50% of the bill for Sky City buying land off taxpayers?

      • JAFA Gazza

        TVNZ? Isnt that a government entity?

        • JAFA Gazza

          Walk away Steven…..just WALK AWAY

        • ex-JAFA

          Precisely my point. Taxpayers buying from themselves. Not the best use of our funds, I reckon.

  • cambridge01

    Totally agree, Morrison needs to take a hike, he sees the writing on the wall and wants the Govt (us) to bail him out.

  • seismac

    Can any of the brilliant minds of Whale oil help
    Lately I seem to be having trouble with the site
    Slow loading or loading segments that have occurred at prior times during the day eg if I click on “whaleoil.co.nz I get earlier items in the morning not the late pm
    If I click on WO back chat it takes till last year to load
    During the election campaign things were fast and smooth
    Even the task of scrolling down is frozen — it only happens on Whale Oil ???????!!!

    • Isherman

      Are you using Chrome as your browser?, if not, that often helps.

    • Steve (North Shore)

      Clear the temp cache

    • mommadog

      There was something up tonight. I couldn’t get WO for around 15-20 minutes regardless of browser. Tried IE and Chrome and got a message on both that site wasn’t available. So I checkout out a favourite international news web site, waited for a bit and here I am. It came up no problem. I must admit my suspicious mind was thinking KDC when I couldn’t get WO.

  • seismac

    40something
    don’t worry our son as many did escaped Nz 15 years ago for the same reason and survived == he found after trials [no prosecutions] and errors to be a NZer in London means you work by telling people you come from NZ and never say you don’t know how to do things He was a double degree Science and marketing and worked as an lawyer in a German bank -go figure
    My theory is there is a gene in Nzers which has a spirit to be a pioneer and if you believe you can you will !!!!!????

    • 40something

      She’ll be fine. Very determined and has a good network of family and Kiwi friends there. We do look out for each other. I had the same thought today driving back from the airport – the same compulsion that sent our ancestors here is pulling these generations back. Gave her a bangle engraved with “If you can dream it you can do it” Bit cheesy but I know it is true.

  • Disinfectant

    The Press reports that the Christchurch City Council is going to tighten up on its travel costs of $724,000.
    The Akaroa Mail then reports that the same council is going to contribute $320,00 on buying a farm near Akaroa to “protect the area as a water catchment”, being a substantial proportion of the Akaroa water supply.
    Isn’t it the job of Environment Canterbury to protect water supplies?

    • hookerphil

      As of January 16th no longer a ratepayer in the CCC – yea

    • peterwn

      But it is not the job of Environment Canterbury to impose stifling restrictions on whoever happens to be the owner of ‘watershed’ lands that feed drinking water supplies. The former Auckland City Council purchased large tracts in the Hunua Ranges (around Cosseys Creek etc) to help ensure clean water supplies for Auckland, and Akaroa is no different apart from being on a much smaller scale.

      • Disinfectant

        There is another difference. The Hunua Ranges are forest, whereas the land at Akaroa is a farm. .
        Environment Canterbury does have responsibility for ensuring that the Environment is protected (including fresh water) whoever owns it. In other words, whatever restrictions are placed on the land apply to any landowner.
        What you might find is that the Council has long held a “non-public” agenda to create a National Park out of the Peninsula.
        They have over the years bought neighbouring farms to the one they are contributing towards purchasing now.
        And on the one hand they say they have no money, then go off spending what they claim they don’t have.
        But when it comes to the Socialisation of land, they can find the money.

    • Gaynor

      The Christchurch Council is also going to start charging over $40,000 for a permit to build a granny flat in your back yard…..

  • caochladh

    This brings a new meaning to sleeping with the fishes……….

  • Watcher

    I have just rediscovered Robert Louis Stevenson, and of course re reading treasure island for the umpteenth time.
    Fantastic.

    • Wendy

      Travel With A Donkey was my favourite. It is so gentle and…pastoral.

      My favourite line is “to live out of doors with the woman a man loves is of all lives the most complete and free”.

      http://w.robert-louis-stevenson.org/travel-writing/3-travels-with-a-donkey-cevennes

      • Watcher

        Yes Wendy, as one follows his writings the themes that he carries follow him to the end.
        That particular line could be said to match his love of his wife Fanny, as he spent his last days in Samoa, living in his sprawling home at Vailima, just above Apia, where he is buried.

      • Watcher

        Just out of interest, and as a supposition on present day life, I have a wee grandson who loves telling and composing stories.
        I have nicknamed him Tala, short for Tusitala, Stevensons Samoan name, which translates to teller of tales (roughly).
        I am immensely proud of our lad who has an instinct for life and it’s foibles.
        One surmises that children who comprehend life, and can compose fantastical stories are few and far between in the present day.
        Sadly.
        Edit: spelling

        • Wendy

          I have one of those. Amazing to observe.

          • Watcher

            Then you are as blessed as us.
            Stunning children, who will inspire our future population, we hope.
            The art of storytelling is sadly being overtaken by the Internet age of instant gratification and nonsense in my humble opinion.

          • Wendy

            Not necessarily. The internet can open up a world of opportunity for discovery that I didn’t have.

            The key is to ensure that they, as I have said to my boy, use their powers for good not evil.

  • Yeahright

    Just had a Weta in the bathroom, great animal, but it can bloody well stay outside thank you.

  • MaryLou

    Doing my own little research project on Muslims and differences of levels of adherence round the world, and came across this Australian Facebook page. Worth a squizz: https://www.facebook.com/AustralianMuslimFaces

    • Alright

      ML – if you haven’t already put this in you research mix have a look (Warning: it is instructive and frightening)……

      • MaryLou

        What a woman! I was trying to read the wall in the background, but can’t without glasses. Do you know what/where that panel, or discussion took place? Would be great to get a transcript or video of whole event?

        • Alright

          Better still watch this background story of her life. She and her story is amazing.

          • MaryLou

            What I’m trying to find at the moment is verification of those numbers (of “radicals”). Not that I’m doubting but want to know where the numbers were compiled, as I’ve heard them used in a number of places. In one way yay for internet, but boy, so much to trawl through!

            Love a good project…

          • MaryLou

            Wow AR – in 49 minutes you’ve given me probably a month’s work! Thank you for posting that…

    • Alright
      • MaryLou

        Evening AR – and thanks! My little research project I can see expanding out a good few months, there’s so much to learn.

        • Alright

          ML, evil is just, well, not good.

          I prefer this…

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