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  • intelligentes candida diva

    Good morning all
    Aahh its a sweet feeling on a Monday morning not to be going to work ☺

    • Hughesy

      It is indeed. Already been up and out to walk the dog, get coffee, some Qi Gong and get complained to by the wife for waking her up.

      • Ratchette

        Should have taken her a cuppa (in bed), then you would have got the big tick.

        • STAG

          Top tip, tea delivered to her highness, and gratefully received.

        • Quinton Hogg

          It is coffee and the paper for Mrs Hogg.
          Except she was still asleep when I left for work with the coffee going cold.

          • Aucky

            Good try though Quinton. You can take a horse to water…………..

      • intelligentes candida diva

        Im about to have coffee then walk the dog…What is Qi Gong?
        Enjoy the moment

        • Ratchette

          Qigong (pronounced Chi-Kung) is an ancient Chinese art of promoting health by developing a harmonious relationship with the Nature.

          • 1951

            Ha, it didn’t work with wifee then?

  • Davo42

    More quality reporting from Stuff this morning.

    “But a case study Quigley created of people who consumed 13 standard drinks between 5pm and midnight, then slept until 7am, showed an average male might not be fit to drive under the new limit until 6am”.

    Of course they wouldn’t be fit to drive at 6am, they would still be asleep! They STUFFed that one up.

    • Ratchette

      Quality stuff from stuff. Took two to write that

  • STAG

    Christmas in the Wairarapa and Napier, a lot warmer then the deep south, been wonderful to watch the red headed swead eaters chasing each other and their cousin’s around in the garden. They love being outside and its such a shame they can’t do it very often at home.

    • intelligentes candida diva

      Wow thats derogatory, do you mean Southland?

      • STAG

        Absolutely and before you get defensive it’s been horrid weather, everyone says the last two years have been worse then normal. The kids love running out side but it’s either blowing 40 knots and raining or cold, blowing 40 knots, showers which leave it too wet to play outside without turning the garden into a mud pit. Southland has many great things going for it but the weather isn’t one of them. It’s only when you leave you get perspective about how awful it’s been the last 2 years.

    • dgrogan

      Ha, ha. They can roll their r’s in the long grass? No…wait. That’s, Gore, right? :)

  • Morning All…

    Some fb pic to share for today…

    • Ratchette

      OK, pics ? give us a clue …………..

      • Ratchette

        Refreshed the page. Issue solved.

    • DangerMice

      He was quite funny on the show, but a bit disappointed a 1/3 of his whale oil was missing

    • intelligentes candida diva

      Oh I love John’s t shirt I want one, DCs sorry statement had to be the most hysteria inducing comment of the decade for me, I still get a chuckle.

      • 1951

        Luv how the print is in soft feminine tones too.

    • Wheninrome

      Not Loving the CD or whatever that Jay Jay is holding, but definitely love the TShirt with rolling Stones on it, have one from way way back when they were much younger, never worn, my grandchildren in years to come are going to wonder why Nan held on to it.

  • intelligentes candida diva

    Is it me maturing or has the world had 3 basic categories > evil, people who expand themselves and do extra good, & ordinary people just getting on with life.
    I cannot believe the story in NY with 2 Policemen, not 1, but 2, shot dead in their car doing extra duties, that is so sad sad sad R.I.P.
    The murderer had also hours before shot his girlfriend
    To top it off …yes you got it allegedly a jihadist sympathiser ….mongrel is what he is.


    • Korau

      Some doubt whether the New York murderer was a jihadist or your common garden type murderous nut. Has two Muslim names “Ismaaiyl” and a middle name “Abdullah” and reads Arabic which points to terrorist, but the police are not inclined in this way.

      The nut job in France who stabbed two police in their station before being sent to collect his virgins is being called a terrorist.

      • intelligentes candida diva

        I read that too, the NY murderer did have Q’uran citations posted on his FB page although that does not make him a sympathiser Im guessing.
        I suppose it and other killing incident begs the question as to what constitutes a “jihadist sympathise” versus just a mad murdering menace. I was unable to find a concept description as such.As it turns out James Foley it now appears is being labelled as a jihadist sympathiser by some.


        • Just a thought …

          Looking forward to seeing all the”protests in the street” about the unjustified shooting of a couple of Police Officers ……… yeah right …..

          • Hans

            Notice that this moderate guy is Mufti of NZ and Aussie

    • Cowgirl

      I subscribe to the idea that there are just some people in the world whose sole reason for being is to create chaos and turmoil in the world and the lives of others. As you say the vast majority of people are either exceptionally good, or just get on with life without causing harm to anyone else, and there are just those who fly in the face of that despite all. There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to it, so I don’t over-analyse it. I just hope there is some good that can come from the chaos they create, and they get their just desserts. All too often though, it seems no good comes from much of it.

  • Hans
  • LesleyNZ

    Kelvin Davis – I had such high hopes for you, but after this morning it does seem that you are just an opportunist like all the other wannabes in the Labour Party. Until you put your feet into a police officer’s shoes you have NO idea about what the everyday, every hour dangers a police officer faces and the split-second decisions they have to make when it comes to their and other people’s safety. How ridiculous to say “if a situation starts getting tense, a better option is to withdraw and call for backup. Mr Davis says that’s better than waving guns in people’s faces.”
    Judith Collins is recognised as being one of the best police officers ever. She is right.

    “Judith Collins reignites police gun debate” http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/judith-collins-reignites-police-gun-debate/

    • R&BAvenger

      Phil Goff’s little piece in response to the Collins column was of a similar pathetic vein. The police should invite Davis and Goff out with them on Friday nights and the weekend. Unlikely that they will take up the offer.

      • terrynaki

        Goff is such a lying and repellent politician that he would load the gun for the perp then leak the story.

    • mommadog

      I would suggest that Kelvin is towing the Labour party line and while I still think he is great, he is after all a labour party politician. Therefore its unreasonable to expect him to really go against what labour stands for. Might be different is he was a national party politician. The arming police debate is worth having and I think the day will come sooner rather than later that police are armed but sadly it may take a police death or two before this happens. People are deluding themselves if they think the criminals aren’t already armed. As for Kelvin saying to withdraw and wait for backup – well that is great strategy if there is the opportunity. If someone is firing at you or coming at you with a machete you don’t always have the chance to withdraw. There is no where to go.
      My only concern about arming police relates to their training. Money needs to be invested and It needs to be done really well, not half-a…

    • Wallace Westland

      Well gee..sorry Lesley but I suspect you missed the point?
      Kelvin was not elected to represent NZ he was elected in the undemocratic electorate of Te Tai Tokerau where to vote you must be of only one demographic. Maori.

      As this is the only demographic he represents then obviously his stand on arming the police makes sense as his constituency are the most likely to be the ones on the receiving end of a round from Misters Smith & Wesson!
      He’s doing his job properly.

      • Effluent

        Isn’t it Herr Glock, Herr Steyr, or mein Herren Heckler & Koch?

  • Wallace Westland

    If the Herald wants to know why it’s losing subscribers then a quick look at Deborah Hill Cones meme today should enlighten them. For the whole year this piece has been little more than her place to spill her guts to the world about..well her!
    Today it’s about not drinking.
    News flash Debs. I don’t care. I really don’t. Not only do I not care if you don’t drink I don’t care if my mates or family don’t either.
    And if those you associate with are so shallow that you need to put it in print then I suggest you take a closer look at who you surround yourself with.
    And by the way congrats on listening to the advice about not printing your insights into sex…pity you didn’t bother to listen re your latest diatribe. And most of the rest of the years.

    NB: I didn’t read the load of drivel but the first paragraph was etched in my mind before I could fold the page!

    • Cowgirl

      Keyboard interviewing 101

      • caochladh

        That’s now renamed to “Vance 101”

  • WestieBob

    found this regarding offering men only scholarships.

    As a result, principals from primary and secondary schools called on the ministry to provide scholarships for male teachers as an incentive to get more joining the profession.

    Rotorua principal and former Secondary Principals’ Association president Patrick Walsh recalled the drive for scholarships but said a decision by the Human Rights Commission halted the initiative.

    He said despite male teachers being in a minority, scholarships were only available for women, disabled people and those from varying ethnic backgrounds.

    The commission had said it would be unlawful to offer male-only scholarships.

    • mommadog

      OMG – that is political correctness gone mad. You can offer scholarships to women but not a man only scholarship. As a female I believe in equal rights and there is nothing equal in that decision. I also believe it is good for kids to have both male and female teachers. The white (Pakeha) male has become the most discriminated against group in NZ with this type of stupid decision making.

      • caochladh

        And so the HRC farce continues. These “people” are so out of kilter from what they were set up for, they have become a joke in this country. Its got to the stage where any man and his dog can complain about anything and they will get involved. I say cease any funding we give these Muppet’s and banish them to Africa or the Middle East where they can get on with the job they are meant to be doing.

  • Aucky

    Fascinating to see that the Bakers Union is upset about having to produce cheap bread to fuel the current bread price war. It could be a threat to their livelihood with the low profit margins. Weren’t the unions clamouring to remove GST from foodstuffs to help those in ‘poverty’? It seems that charity doesn’t begin at home after all.

  • pisces8284 .

    I find this the most despicable of thefts. Stealing from people who have pro-actively gone to a budget advisory service to take control of their debts. And to get name suppression on medical grounds to boot

  • Curly1952

    Is it me, or does the world seem in turmoil at present?
    In no particular order we have the Russian situation, North Korea & Sony, ISIS, Taliban in Pakistan, Terrorist in Sydney, Police shootings in the USA, Ebola in Africa, Climate change nitwits, hackers, we still have the greens and no doubt many more.
    It will be good to have a few days off enjoying more quality time with family and friends where the news won’t matter. Sorry WO you may have to take a back seat too!!

    • Cowgirl

      It’s not just you – every day there seems to be another major crisis, and it seems like instead of slowing down for the holidays, the world is spinning faster on its axis. I’m well over it!

  • caochladh

    Just in time for Christmas……”The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has instituted proceedings in the Federal Court against Chrisco Hampers Australia Limited (Chrisco) alleging contraventions of the Australian Consumer Law (ACL) involving an alleged unfair contract term, false or misleading representations, and lay-by termination charges which exceed Chrisco’s reasonable costs.” http://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-takes-action-against-chrisco-over-lay-by-agreements

  • I.M Bach

    Does anyone remember those bobble-head dolls you used to be able to buy for the rear parcel shelf of your car? I found a picture of the latest model.

  • caochladh
  • dgrogan

    A Herald article is having a go at, “Climate Change Deniers” – no doubt prompted by our muppet friends.


    As far as I can tell, NO ONE is denying climate change. We all accept it. We’re just not agreeing on what the greens say causes the changes – and the way they think they can fix it.

  • The2Game

    Popped into the local TAB today and was there when Race 11 was run at the Christchurch Greyhounds…

    The field?:

    Unreliable Andy
    Not So Cute
    Big Muddy
    Captain’s Choice
    Cronk Went Plonk
    Will Excite
    Goldstar Chyna

    Unreliable Andy, ha, in the RED rug, tee hee, was the hot favourite (though, much like its political namesake, it was winless in its three most recent outings) but lived up to its name by running a well-beaten third.

    (If you’d backed Big Muddy, each $1 you had on it to win would have multiplied itself 31.7 times…)