Alleged Motel Murderers out on bail (as I predicted)

Beauen Wallace-Loretz and Leonard Nattrass-Berquist, via NZ Herald / supplied

Beauen Wallace-Loretz and Leonard Nattrass-Berquist, via NZ Herald / supplied

Granted, it is ‘strict’ electronic bail, essentially house arrest.  But really, how do they monitor things like no drugs and alcohol?   These kids would normally spend their lives in front of a computer or TV.  This is hardly smart, and you can bet your bottom dollar that they won’t stay put.

Leonard Nattrass-Berquist and Beauen Daniel George Wallace-Loretz, both 17, appeared today in the High Court at Auckland over the death of 54-year-old Ihaia Gillman-Harris on December 27 at the Ascot Epsom Motel.

On January 7, the pair were denied bail but their applications for electronically-monitored (EM) bail – on stricter terms – were granted by Justice Mark Woolford this afternoon in front of a public gallery packed with family and friends of the teens.

EM bail requires a defendant to remain at an approved address at all times and be monitored by Corrections for up to 24 hours a day.

For an application to be granted, a judge must be satisfied that the public, witnesses, victims and the people who will share the address are safe from the defendant.

Justice Woolford ordered both to serve a 24-hour curfew with family members – Nattrass-Berquist on the North Shore and Wallace-Loretz in west Auckland.

Both were barred from using alcohol or drugs.

This too will come to tears.

 

– Rob Kidd, NZME

 


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  • Reaper

    To answer your question ” how do they monitor things like no drugs and alcohol? “, they do come and take urine samples at random times, but of course that doesn’t help if something has already happened. Hopefully the threat of losing bail is enough of a deterrent.

  • sarahmw

    West Auckland and North Shore interesting combination. Yes what happens at home is the question regarding alcohol and drugs use. That needs to be monitored.

    • Another Middleagedwhiteguy

      all three have double-barrel names – accused plus the victim (with whom they associated, at least somewhat)

      looks like none of them had fathers (apart from the obvious genetic incursion)

  • Pete

    Cam, surely you mean that these 2 young “businessmen and entrepreneurs” were out on bail!?

  • Ilovelife

    What disgusted me was the friends waiting outside court for them treating them like heroes and their arrogant bravado…it was just sickening. What sort of monsters are we breeding. I know they are deemed innocent until found guilty but their was no shame, embarrassment or remorse at all.

    • warrior62

      You’re not alone llovelife … agree with you totally, I mean no head down, shame nothing

  • Simon Brown

    Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but from what we’ve seen of this case so far, I would say that the judge was presented with compelling facts that these are our guys and they’re not looking for anyone else. In light of that and the nature of the crime, I can’t comprehend how these guys got bail at all.

  • peterwn

    A MSM problem here. Stuff said the presiding judge was Justice Venning (who I regard as a ‘good’ judge) and the Herald said Justice Woolford presided. Usually for murder AFAIK the onus is on the accused to justify bail, but it seems because of the young age of the offenders, there seems to be a very strong presumption that bail should be granted (they are only kids, etc, etc). It seems that the potential quality of the police case has no bearing on a bail decision. Perhaps the detective in charge of such cases should be asked to advise the judge confidentially of the strength of the case and if ‘very strong’ bail should be always be denied.

    I wonder if the youths have been properly advised. Unless the case is potentially very weak, it would seem better for them to admit guilt and succumb to custody now.

    • Tom

      They will get off a manslaughter charge, cop a serious assault charge MAYBE, and no this won’t be the last time you hear these names.

  • Gaynor

    Are these the 2 who were shown grinning and waving on last nights news?

    • warrior62

      Yep and giving shout outs!

  • kayaker

    Apologies to those law-abiding folk who have hyphenated names for good reason, but I often wonder about people with hyphenated names who get into trouble.

    • coelacanth

      I thought the same thing at the time of the arrests. The victim had a double-barrel surname too if I remember rightly. I could google that… but can’t be arsed. What if you have a stupid first name and a double-barrel surname – you’re screwed!

      • DrFix

        No need to google about the victims surname, its in the post.

  • Tom

    Wonder what the fine would be if they were sons of a pakeha king. We have one don’t we ?

  • Albert Lane

    There are a whole lot of unanswered questions about this case. Why was the victim in the unit? What was he doing there? What is the connection with the young guys? I will not make any prior judgment until the facts of the case are revealed.

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