And they’ll get it too

via RNZ

via RNZ

Leonard Nattrass-Berquist and Beauen Wallace-Loretz, both 17, were due to appear in the Auckland District Court, charged with the murder of Ihaia Gillman-Harris, who was 54.

They also faced charges of aggravated robbery and taking a vehicle.

The pair first appeared on Friday and were remanded in custody.

Their lawyers were expected to apply for bail today.

Police said security camera footage from the Ascot Motel in Epsom showed the pair checking in with Mr Gillman-Harris on 27 December.

About an hour later, Mr Gillman-Harris went to reception to ask for help but died later in hospital from what police describe as a blunt force trauma injury to his head.

How a lawyer can even contemplate asking for bail for murderers… I beg you pardon… alleged murderers, is beyond me. ¬†Although I suspect the court will be spun a story about how they will be looked afterby caring and loving family, the same family that produced these scrotes.

On the face of it, this was unprovoked, over the top, aggravated violence resulting in death. ¬†It can be argued that the death wasn’t intended, but for the public’s sake, these two should be kept well away from people who don’t appreciate having their heads caved in.

 

– RNZ

 


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  • steve and monique

    Look forward to the wet bus ticket, from an inept Judge. Hopefully I am wrong, and they get what they deserve.

  • The Whinging Pom

    You would have hoped that after 6 years in power the National government would have been able to significantly reverse the over-representation of bleeding hearts serving in the judicial system, but unfortunately the evidence seems to suggest that this hasn’t been one of its priorities.

    • caochladh

      It would seem that any government would be pushing the proverbial uphill on this one, considering the independence of the judiciary and considering none of them have been forcibly removed – ever! http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/judicial-system/page-3

      • The Whinging Pom

        And yet, when the progressives are in power…

        • caochladh

          Clark installed Elias secure in the knowledge that she would be there until she (Elias) decided it was time for her to go.

    • Wallace Westland

      Why would you think that?
      After two terms in Government we still have the sickening economic drain of Helen’s bribes and middle class welfare.
      The Nats are showing every sign of being as liberal as Labour, they certainly are with our money.

      • Damon Mudgway

        Ahem, taxes are not our money. Lefties would have you believe it was never yours in the first place.

        My belief is if I hadn’t worked for that dollar, those on welfare would not have been able to receive a partial disbursement of the 33 cents that was taken from ‘me’ after ‘I’ worked for it.

        • Wallace Westland

          Exactly.

    • Rocket

      Pom, you were foolish to get your hopes up.
      The government we have endured for the last 6 years is so far to the left of centre – so out of touch with middle NZers, that to expect anything but an on-going sound of wet bus-tickets on limp wrists was delusionary.

  • Pete

    ..and we will hear them refered to as “gentle giant’ and that “he loved his mum” or ” was a member of the first 15)

    • queenstfarmer

      Or “he always helps out at Church”…..

      • Dave

        Or, they are so young, and do not deserve to be mixing with seasoned, hardened criminals.

    • RightofSingapore

      …or that they make people laugh, or the victim had a medical condition, or the defendants have a promising future/career, or they have sick family members who would be distressed by a conviction, or their “yoof” or some other silly reason from an Ivory tower out of touch hopeless Judge

  • hunk4hire .

    The elephant in the room, is why these two 17 year old “nephews” were at the motel to begin with. Was it a meeting of the “Hyphenated Surname Society”?

    Motels are used principally for two things; illicit sex and illicit drugs. Either these two were posing as homosexual prostitutes in order to rumble the deceased or this was a drug deal that went wrong.

    • Betty Swallocks

      Yes. The first thing I thought of when I saw their faces the other day was “Rent-boy scam gone wrong”

      • Damon Mudgway

        I think you are on the right track guys. Both aspects are almost sure to be involved here. But if either are the case, being gay or a drug user does not invite being beaten to death.

        I have my own theory on what went wrong. Anyone remember the case of the murdered interior designer in Auckland while back?

        • Pharmachick

          Yes, and didn’t his assailant get off based on some sort of “homosexual panic” defense (?)

    • warrior62

      try rumbling the deceased …

  • Hard1

    Here is a case related to the aforementioned non-deportee. Life with 10 years no parole. Will the Crown get a similar result in this case ?.

    Two brothers have been jailed this week – one a murderer, the other a repeat drink-driver who ploughed into two young girls and left one in a coma.

    Salofo Aiono beat his best friend to death because the friend had slept with his wife. The 37-year-old was sentenced at the High Court at Auckland on Wednesday to life in prison with a minimum non-parole period of 10 years.

    He was earlier found guilty of murdering Sanele (Mose) Sanato, 36, who died after the violent assault in his South Auckland home in February 2009.

    His younger brother Fereti, 27, gave evidence at his brother’s High Court trial.

    The younger Aiono was sentenced yesterday to two years and 10 months in jail after previously pleading guilty to drink-driving and crashing into two girls who were walking down a South Auckland road.

  • Wheninrome

    The names generally tell a picture. I was so pleased to see the most popular names for babies last year were relatively “normal names” that we can spell and pronounce, it hopefully augurs well for educated children from “caring” parents and then hopefully reasonably well balanced young adults.

    I am sure someone is going to shoot me down in flames with my comment, but a lot of the individuals who seem to get into trouble do have names spelt in a different way.
    “Give a dog a bad name”.

    • Cadwallader

      SFNS=Silly First Name Syndrome. WO often features this phenomenon.

      • Rick H

        Is it true that Kanye West has a child with first name “North”?

        • Wheninrome

          We can spell it and pronounce it.

    • Mine it,Drill it,Sell it.

      I am not sure about the darker skinned one but I can tell you the white with the

      name “Leonard Nattrass-Berquist” has a older sister and brother with the same mother.Not one of them has the same father so the “caring” parents argument will be a bit of a stretch.

      Don’t be surprised to see these two blame each other and the one with the best lawyer wins.White versus Black to be frank.

      • Wheninrome

        Mummy was obviously taught to share as a child.

      • Wheninrome

        So loyalty will go out the door at that point, so what parts of their character will be left to admire?

  • Carl
    • yeah and gang affiliates given the posturing on their Facebook pages.

    • Wheninrome

      Loyalty is such a wonderful thing.
      Like earning a living, looking after your children, knowing who your children are so you can look after them, assisting the community, I could go on and on.

    • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

      ‘There’?

  • virtualmarknz

    How about they get bail provided they go live with their defence lawyers?

    Let’s see then how keen they are for their clients to get bail.

    • Backdoor

      Now that is a good suggestion. It would make the defence lawyers think about their actions.

      Alternatively, make the defence lawyers put up a substantial good behaviour bond before bail is granted. Then the lawyer will be responsible for their supervision.

  • sarahmw

    Their was a time when a hyphenated surname suggested those of the upper class, oh dear hasn’t that premise plummeted to new depth and new meaning.

    • disqus_HJepRnmNGa

      ‘Their’?

  • Ginny

    I am wondering if the one on the right already has a record. Looks like a police mug shot to me.

  • Steve

    The lawyer(s) may well have been the duty soilictors appointed. They get dealt random cards and this is truely a shocking hand. But there hasn’t yet been a trial so they are bound to follow the criminal procedure and provide an adequate defence and applying for bail may just be a part of that even though they know full well it won’t be granted. At least we hope not. All I know about this evil and heinous event is what is in the post above. Blunt force trauma obviously conjurs up a very predictable scenario but there could have been a pushing and shoving match going on and the victim fell backwards heavily onto a blunt object. There hasn’t been a trial and the last thing anyone wants is a future appeal over the ineffective assistance of counsel.

  • I_See_Crazy_People

    You’ll get a bigger sentence for these scum if they did 1k/h over the speed limit on the way out.

  • Steve

    The lawyer(s) may well have been the duty soilictors appointed. They get dealt random cards and this is truely a shocking hand. But there hasn’t yet been a trial so they are bound to follow the criminal procedure and provide an adequate defence and applying for bail may just be a part of that even though they know full well it won’t be granted. At least we hope not. All I know about this evil and heinous event is what is in the post above. Blunt force trauma obviously conjurs up a very predictable scenario but there could have been a pushing and shoving match going on and the victim fell backwards heavily onto a blunt object. There hasn’t been a trial and the last thing anyone wants is a future appeal on the grounds of ineffective assistance of counsel.

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