Angry Andy’s #SNOT2014


As a public service, here is Angry Andy’s speech.   It’s just as well I copied it for you, because otherwise you have to read it like this:  


Thanks for being one of the first to read my speech today. In it, I set out my vision for a stronger, more equal New Zealand — one where our businesses thrive and we once again have the lowest unemployment in the developed world.

Let me know what you think on Twitter, Facebook or by leaving a note below. And If you want to tweet a quote from my speech, it’s easy: just select the quote and click the tweet button. I’m really looking forward to hearing what you think.

– Andrew

State of the Nation
Andrew Little, Leader of the Opposition
Auckland, Wednesday 28 January 2015


In 2005 when I led the EPMU we worked together with Air New Zealand to find a way to keep engineering jobs that were heading overseas. A lot of these workers were people I’d known for years and they were facing not just losing their jobs but not being able to find the kind of work they do without going overseas. A lot of people were facing personal and financial upheaval.

It was hard work but we kept more than 300 skilled and well-paid jobs in New Zealand.

And we managed to benefit Air New Zealand and its workforce with productivity gains too.

As a union leader I was always conscious that wealth had to be created first before it could be shared. We need to do what’s right for business so we can do what’s right for workers and their families and to keep skills in New Zealand.

My driving motivation for coming into politics was that I could see that without real change working New Zealanders, whether on a wage or salary or working on a contract or in their own small business, will be left arguing over how to share an ever dwindling national income.

As a new leader at the start of the parliamentary cycle I’m fully aware of the task I have ahead to build our organisation and the policy platform we will take into the next election. This is a major job.

I’m also aware of how important it is to be very clear about what kind of future Labour stands for and the direction I intend to take us in as leader.

So today I’m not going to focus on policy detail.

I’m going to tell you about the challenges New Zealand faces as I see them, how we will solve them, and what that means. I’m going to talk about our goals for New Zealand and our vision.

Labour’s vision is that New Zealand will once again have the lowest unemployment in the developed world.

When people have jobs, they have dignity, they have self-respect, and their families have the best future. The engine room of this job growth is small business.

I want to talk about what I think remains one of the biggest long-term challenges for our country; and that is, where the next generation of wealth creation will come from.

Not because wealth creation is an end in itself. But because a good quality of life for all of us needs strong economic performance.

Globally, the combined wealth of the richest 1 percent will be greater than that of the other 99 percent of people next year unless the current trend of rising inequality is reversed.

Right now many New Zealanders don’t have a good enough quality of life. In fact since this government was first elected there are 20,000 more children living below the poverty line. Those kids would fill 95 primary school halls. And 40% of them come from working families.

In New Zealand, the incomes of the top 10 percent are nine times the income of the bottom 10 per cent.

In fact at the end of last year, the OECD told us that in New Zealand the level of inequality is now holding back economic growth.

Of course, this isn’t just an economic issue, it’s bad for our communities too. Inequality robs people of opportunities. It stunts potential. It’s wrong and it’s not the Kiwi way.

The social inequality we suffer today, built up over the last 30 years or so, must be the driving force for the change we need to make.

It’s a vicious circle. More inequality, slower growth, more inequality.

It is so important that we all understand this: more inequality, slower growth, more inequality.

We have to break that cycle if we want to succeed. And working on how we do that will be the priority for me as the new leader of the Labour Party.

Part of that means recognising a world where technology is rapidly changing the nature of work and the opportunities for work.

In this regard I have already announced Labour’s Future of Work Commission led by Grant Robertson. This is a large and serious task and will be a major project for Labour over the next two years as we get around the country talking to New Zealanders about what that means.

Meeting the challenge of future wealth generation is getting harder.

As a party and as a country we need to be thinking about how we will deal with the change ahead of us. And we need to be thinking now.

The truth is stark. Doing more of what we’re doing today won’t support the standard of living we as New Zealanders want in the future.

As a country we need to do things differently. That is going to take courage.
Government can provide some of the leadership to make a difference. But nothing will change unless we are all in it together.

Because as a party committed to creating good jobs for New Zealanders, we know that many of the jobs we want to create will come from businesses like those represented here today. That is the only way to drive down unemployment. We can only do this if we’re all in it together.

I’ve seen this in my own working life.

I’ve seen how good management and a well led workforce working together can face difficult challenges, draw on each others’ strengths and insights, and create gains for both.

The best changes happen when we bring workers and businesses together, so that everyone can win.

During the time I was a union secretary, Fonterra embarked on a project to increase the productivity of their plant and machinery. They realised that for every 1% increase in plant reliability — that is, the time that the plant is operational — they could add an extra $100 million to their bottom line.

At the EPMU, we worked alongside Fonterra to help them change the way they managed engineering maintenance to deliver better results. It wasn’t about cutting wages, or insisting on longer hours. The upshot was they gave frontline maintenance engineers more responsibility and they increased the incomes of those workers. The jobs were actually more satisfying at the end of it.

Maintenance crews saw their pay increase substantially and they lifted plant productivity to levels even the plant manufacturers thought weren’t possible.

But working together, we did it.

That meant Fonterra was getting world leading levels of productivity. That meant better pay-outs for farmers, better staff retention, and more security for the families of those staff.

Everyone came out better off.

And just as importantly it gave everyone a stake in doing better and a sense that their contribution counted. Which is how it should be. Because work isn’t just about money. It’s about respect and dignity.

Too often that’s forgotten.

Too often the government sees work as transactional and contractual and they legislate for it that way. Like hiring people is like buying stock or selling product.

Well, it’s not. At its best, like it was at Fonterra, it’s about a shared purpose.

That’s the philosophy we need to bring to Government.

For political parties occupying the Treasury benches, the choice is whether they want to be a small beer government or a government prepared to face up to the long term challenges.

Tinkering with the RMA instead of building houses, setting more hurdles for people out of work instead of creating jobs, and endlessly restructuring the bureaucracy.

These are the hallmarks of small beer government. It’s not where Labour is going.

We all understand that strong businesses and strong communities are two sides of the same coin. You can’t have one without the other.
For a political party with social democratic values at its heart, like the Labour Party, there is one crucial question: How do we create wealth generation that means everyone gets to fairly participate and share? Which is to say, wealth generation that is inclusive.

And when we talk of inclusiveness, we also have to include future generations. Because sharing with future generations means preserving and protecting our natural environment.

This isn’t just about businesses and consumers and the markets they make up. This is equally about citizenship and the proper role of government.

Our focus must be on what best suits New Zealand. On what honours our values and what best achieves the kind of country we all want to live in and want to pass to our children and grandchildren.

That country must be even better than the one we inherited. The country we received from the sons of Gallipoli has for a long time been the envy of the world.

In this special year of commemoration for New Zealand, we honour the sacrifices of previous generations when we staunchly defend the incredible, progressive freedoms we enjoy today. This lies at the heart of the Kiwi tradition of a fair go and a fair share.

We are a pioneering nation. From the first of us who navigated the Pacific, pulling the waka ashore in search of a new life, to those trying to shuck off the class-ridden world of old Britain, and forge new opportunities and a fairer way of living together.

Part of that was the Treaty of Waitangi, an agreement that is now vital to creating a New Zealand which is proud and unified. We may still be searching for its full meaning, even its true meaning, but it is inextricably a part of New Zealand and being a New Zealander.

We pioneered the idea of the state sustaining the poorest and most vulnerable with pensions.

We pioneered social security and a high quality public health and education system.

We pioneered the idea of orderly and fair industrial relations, from the forty hour week forwards.

We pioneered citizenship rights when women won the right to vote.

We pioneered state housing and the idea that when everyone has a good home to live in we can do better as individuals and as a nation (something this Government has gone back on with its secret plans to sell off our state houses).

In the 1980s we took a world-leading stand on nuclear weapons.

We pioneered. New Zealand pioneered again and again.
We didn’t look around to see what others were doing. We did what was right and fair.

The reason we did all this was because we wanted to build a better society where tomorrow is better than yesterday for everyone.

This is the spirit we must follow. In an ever changing, more open world, these values should still guide us.

A nation’s economic security is one of the government’s most important duties, next only to protecting its citizens from physical harm.

The right to live in dignity is as basic a human right as any.
How do we provide for economic security for New Zealand — for businesses, for households and individuals? Security that means Kiwis can enjoy the standard of living we have long aspired to. A standard of living which a growing number of New Zealanders are missing out on.

Our economic security is our greatest risk long-term.

We will hear from government representatives and some commentators that economically we are doing well. That the economy is growing. That the prospects look bright.

But this doesn’t tell the full story.

We will be told that GDP has grown by 3%. But GDP isn’t the last word.The problem with GDP as a measure is it doesn’t measure everything that is happening.

It doesn’t measure the loss of capability from businesses that have closed down and the loss of good, stable, skilled, well-paid jobs that we’ve seen; like those lost last year at Fitzroy Yachts and Tenix in my hometown of New Plymouth.

It knows nothing of New Zealand’s incredible volunteer sector, the strain on our social services, or the state of our environment.

GDP simply doesn’t tell us everything we need to know.

The reality is we have major issues we are not facing up to.

As I’ve said, the OECD told us at the end of last year that the level of inequality in New Zealand is holding back economic growth.

Already this year, the government has told working people not to expect a decent pay rise.

The truth is, it’s pretty obvious that this government has given up on fair wage growth and a fair share of the gains of a growing economy. They’ve just given up.

Well that’s not good enough. And it won’t be good enough for a Labour Government.

Because with that the Government has given up on the chance to turn those gains into long term wealth and wellbeing for all New Zealanders.

Our economy is dependent on commodity exports, and on too few markets. Dairy, timber and minerals have been strong sources of income for us when prices are high, but as they fall the impact on our economy is significant. We have grown our trade with China enormously, so that it has surpassed our trade with Australia. But between those two countries, they alone now represent about 40% of our exports.

When it comes to the workforce, we still have unemployment of around 5.5%, even after GDP growth and the continual claims that we are “on the cusp of something special”.

And too many jobs — especially the new ones — are part time, low paid, or under arrangements that provide no protection.

Like the alarming spread of zero hour contracts. Under Labour, those contracts will spread no more. They will be gone. We should not tolerate them and we will not tolerate them.

This government says all is well in New Zealand. But their dry statistics don’t tell you about the hundreds of thousands whose work is less secure than ever before, whether it is a skilled tradesman forced to do unskilled work on casual hours, or the new hire stuck on a zero hour contract.

They won’t tell you about the fact that a well-paid young couple in Auckland now has a harder time buying a house than they would in New York.

And they won’t tell you about the kids who fall into poverty and have to rely on charity for breakfast. Or shoes. Or a raincoat.
I’m here today to make one thing very clear.

The Labour Party I lead is about jobs.
Good jobs. Skilled jobs. Well paid jobs.
That’s what a good, fair and wealthy society is based on. And it’s what Labour stands for.

A job is about more than just an income. It’s about dignity.

Good jobs provide economic security, they sustain our communities. They are a source of pride and confidence.

More than anything else they are the path to well-being, to living a good life and creating an even better life for your family.

Ten years ago, New Zealand had the lowest unemployment in the developed world. Today, we’ve slipped to ninth.

It’s no good blaming the financial crisis. Eleven OECD countries have lower unemployment now than they did at the start of the global financial crisis — ours is a quarter higher. And we hit the crisis in better condition than most of them.

High unemployment is a cost to our economy, it’s a cost to our communities, and a cost to the government. We spend around $300 million a year more on unemployment benefits now than we did six years ago — money we could be using to drive growth instead.

And it’s why the next Labour government will make sure New Zealand has the lowest rate of unemployment in the developed world.

Let me say that again — the next Labour government will make sure that New Zealand has the lowest rate of unemployment in the developed world.

New Zealand has always been a nation of world leaders and we can lead the world on jobs and employment.

We’ve done it before. Just ten years ago. And we’ll do it again. Because that’s the single best thing we can do to ensure New Zealanders have wealth, security, and dignity.

I know that to achieve goals like this we will all need to work together: government, business, and workers. And by business I don’t just mean large corporates. I mean placing small firms, small businesses, at the centre of growth and job creation.

This year, I will be talking about several things I believe need urgent attention to help grow our wealth:

· Harnessing the power of small businesses.

· Getting serious about housing affordability.

· Ensuring Auckland operates as an internationally competitive city, breaking free of the gridlock which is holding it back.

· Developing a manufacturing sector fit for the 21st century.

I will expand on these final three points in later speeches in the coming months.

Finally today I want to focus on how we help our small businesses get ahead so we can drive job growth up and unemployment down.

New Zealand is a pioneering nation and it is this spirit of innovation which drives our small businesses.

A lot of people don’t know that small businesses were responsible for nearly one third of New Zealand’s economy last year.
And that 41% of the jobs created last year were created in firms with fewer than 20 employees.

And yet the question of how we can help these vital businesses to grow is very rarely at the top of the political agenda.

Well, I want to change that.

Because as much as small business does now, I want them to do more.

As successful as many firms are, I want them to do even better.

Because I know there are huge opportunities for our economy in having a stronger small business sector.

In having more businesses that are nimble, flexible and innovative.

And I want to see us do more to promote entrepreneurism.

I want to make sure that when working people take up the opportunity to be their own boss and to make a living off their own ideas and ambitions, their own energy, they won’t face unnecessary hurdles to do so.

To do that, Labour will ensure the Government does more to support our small businesses.

I’ve seen first-hand how — through working together with their employees — businesses like Fonterra have created wealth in a way that benefits everyone. Labour will work with small businesses to draw on this best practice from some of our most successful enterprises.

We will make sure that small business owners get to spend more time focussed on making their business work, instead of working out how to fill in their tax forms.

We will make sure that more training is available to new business owners so that someone who has never owned a business before can get up and running without too much red tape.

And we will make sure that there is more investment capital than ever to support our small businesses by finding ways for our major investment funds like the NZ Super Fund to support promising local start-ups.

We will do more to use our tax system to support investment in innovation and Research & Development, so that more Kiwi businesses can compete on the world stage in the cutting edge industries that make up the 21st century economy.

We will help businesses that want to diversify their offerings because we know that it’s better for our economy when we don’t have all our eggs in one basket.

With Labour, it will be easier than ever to start a business and make it succeed.

Labour will make small business a priority.
Over the next two years, I’ve tasked our spokespeople with developing a programme of action in government that will make growing our small business sector a major part of our long-term economic plan.

We’ll do it by listening to business, communities, and workers and by acting to get the job done.

That’s how we can create better, higher paid jobs for everyone.

We will be a strong and pioneering government that works to grow our wealth and to do that fairly. And, most importantly, to do it together.

Over the next three years, that will be Labour’s mission.

To work with New Zealanders from every walk of life to build a long-term plan for the long-term challenges we face.

To tackle the rising inequality that is holding our economy back and build a New Zealand where everyone can get ahead.

To support our businesses to grow new wealth and protect our standards of living.

We can do this together. And we will.

Because if we don’t we will be poorer as a nation. Not just economically, but socially — in our communities — as well.

Labour stands for a better way. We stand for a wealthier, fairer New Zealand.

We stand for real solutions to the big challenges that lie ahead.

We stand for the future.

And above all,
We stand for jobs.

Andrew stands for

  • A Better Way
  • Wealthier, Fairer New Zealand
  • Real Solutions to Big Challenges
  • The Future
  • Jobs

With unemployment at it’s lowest for some time, I’m not sure jobs is going to be a good policy platform.  The future?  Meh, who isn’t for the future.  We can’t do much about the past.

I could pick the speech apart in some detail, but let’s leave you with this little gem

To do that, Labour will ensure the Government does more to support our small businesses.

I’ve seen first-hand how — through working together with their employees — businesses like Fonterra have created wealth in a way that benefits everyone.

If Andrew thinks Fonterra is a small business, he’s got a lot of catching up to do.

What he’s really saying is that he wants to help small businesses, and has no experience to draw on other than big business.

The speech really is all over the place.  I’ll let you pull it apart analyse it further.


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  • Quinton Hogg

    Is that all?
    Platitudes mixed with bulldust

  • yoyoyo

    i was asleep after reading about Air NZ sending jobs overseas

  • Salacious Crumb

    Tinkering with the RMA instead of building houses? Hello?

    • Bryan

      it’s because of the RMA that housing are not being built Handy Andy

  • sheppy

    not going to focus on policy detail – how convenient, capital gains tax on granny’s house anyone?

    • ex-JAFA

      There’s no hurry. They’ve got two years and at least one new leader to get through before they have to bother with losing another election.

      • sheppy

        aye, wonder how many months he’s allowed before the back stabbing reaches critical mass and the unions elect another chosen one

  • peterwn

    He could be right – by the time Labour/ Greens have finished, Fonterra could well be a small business.

  • oldmanNZ

    more “Equal” NZ?

    what does this mean?

    For those that don’t want to work should have as much money as those that work hard?

    • Old Man, Torbay.

      It’s the Little Red Hen scenario.

    • ex-JAFA

      Nah, he reckons just those who do work should all get paid the same. When you include those who don’t/won’t/can’t work as getting paid the same, that’s straying into Green territory.

  • symgardiner

    Until he has detail he is just hot air. And when he gets detail it will scare the daylights out of the general population. Labour is stuffed until the Nats hand them some ammunition.

  • Pluto

    So Labour will take us from ninth to first on the unemployment rate by taking those people who are currently unemployable and transforming them into small business owners ?
    Sorry Andy I can’t see those who are too lazy or downright stupid suddenly becoming entrepreneurs. Fail.

    • Wheninrome

      Using the Super Scheme to pay for it. So that will leave less for their pensions. As it has been proven in the past that Little experience in business does not augur well for future success for the majority, I can see these poor people with no savings and their super fund exhausted from trying to prop up their failing “Little” businesses.
      He does have a fixation with the word “small” I wonder why?

      • Using the super scheme for speculative investment will fail. Does anyone think that there is a decent investment manager anywhere near politics other than JK? Certainly not in liebour.

      • LabTested

        It’s not their Super Fund he will be using it is the NZ Super Fund – i.e your & my money.

        • Wheninrome

          Yes, indeed, all those presently paying tax, and taxpayers of the future.
          I thought it was supposed to invest according to certain criteria, and “Risk” would not be among that criteria.

  • simblor

    Andrew Little is about the future, but spends most of his time talking about the past.

  • Drhill

    The world was a different place in 2005 – No Global Finance Crises, no rise of I.S and rise / fall of countries. You cannot ride off what you did 10 years ago and think you were great because you did that.

  • Sais

    The bit were he says “Globally, the combined wealth of the richest 1 percent will be greater than that of the other 99 percent of people next year unless the current trend of rising inequality is reversed.”

    It’s not what the report from Oxfam Said. It was:

    Global wealth 48% owned by richest 1% in 2014
    54% owned by richest 1% by 2020
    $1.9tn wealth of 80 top billionaires – equal to bottom 50% of rest of world
    $600bn increase in wealth for 80 top billionaires in 4 years – or 50% rise
    $750bn drop in wealth for the poorest 50% of the world in 4 years

    So he is stretching the truth to fit his narrative.

  • Davo42

    Angry just wasted a golden opportunity to promote himself. He has just repeated the dribble Cunliffe was spouting prior to the election without proffering any viable solutions. This is his best quote; “In New Zealand, the incomes of the top 10 percent are nine times the income of the bottom 10 per cent”. As it should be, given that the bottom 10% are primarily unemployable beneficiaries, and the top 10% are hard working entrepreneurs and CEO’s. To suggest income parity is just plain stupid.

  • Korau

    “With Labour, it will be easier than ever to start a business and make it succeed.

    Labour will make small business a priority.

    Over the next two years, I’ve tasked our spokespeople with developing a
    programme of action in government that will make growing our small
    business sector a major part of our long-term economic plan.”

    There speaks a man that has never worked in a small business.

    Making a small business succeed is NOT easy.

    Capital (will Labour give you the startup money taken from someone else)
    Regulations (Labour is the regulator party, no doubt will add more)
    Tax (Labour is tax and spend, look out new small business for Labours tax collector)
    Unionism. (Workers in these new businesses will be expected to be union members)

    No doubt budding entrepreneurs will be waiting with bated breath for their work in this area.

    Talk is cheap. Lets see the detail!

    • Wheninrome

      As I said below Little has a fixation on the word “small”.

      • Korau

        Andrew Littles recipe on how to get a small business.

        Buy a big business and let Labour grind it down in size.

  • Genevieve

    Katie Bradford is on TV1 saying that Little’s delivery was a bit flat!
    Other words spring to mind,, boring, monotonous, tedious, long-winded……

    • Failed to inspire the faithful eh? Oh dear.

    • Wheninrome

      Nothing to bounce to.

  • Diddle_De_Dee

    It’s all very well to make many great promises to suck in the vunerable believers when you know full well that you will never deliver on them. Dream on Angry Andy

  • Cadwallader

    Two words: Platitudinous nonsense.

  • Jas

    How does he expect small business to reduce unemployment when the small businesses have no protection from hiring the wrong employees. If they abolish the 90 day rule then marginal candidates will not be given a chance.

    ‘Developing a manufacturing sector fit for the 21st century’ to reduce unemployment. The 21st century means either means automating with machines or a very high skilled workforce. How is that going to happen when a portion of the unemployed or low skill workers spent most of their time at school walking around acting staunch or playing on their phones all day or organising the next party/shag for the weekend.

  • Cadwallader

    “Getting serious about housing affordability” is a misnomer.
    Affordability of anything turns on
    a Getting serious about personal responsibility
    b Getting serious our budgetting
    c Getting serious about saving
    d Getting serious about working harder
    e Getting serious about one’s reasonable expectations.
    What Little Angry means by his jargon is: Getting serious about using taxpayers’ $$$$ to dish up government subsidised houses to ungrateful losers/bludgers. There’s nothing more to his rubbish than that!

  • corporate refugee

    “The next Labour government will make sure New Zealand has the lowest rate of unemployment in the developed world”.
    He forgot to say that this would be via tax-payer funded public service jobs.

    • ex-JAFA

      He longs for the halcyon days of the Great Depression, with lots of government makework schemes… but with the modern handbrakes of RMA and H&S.

  • johnnymanukau.

    Here is a challenge for you Angry Andy, make available to Whale Oil a list of where these 20,000 children are living in poverty [have you ever seen real poverty ?not political poverty] and I will personally donate my life savings to the 20,000 ,provided I have the opportunity to make public as to why they are in so called poverty.
    Andy you will have to come up with 20,000 names to make this challenge viable.
    We who are observant and can read and write know that there are jobs for all in NZ but we have a generation, [ because of hand outs from the tax payers] who do not want to work, period. Well to hell with the lazy they can vote Labour next election , because they will believe, that you are their saviour ANGRY ANDY.
    Looking forward to your list and reply Andy.
    And by the way Andy, what is your policy regards welfare payments to single baby making workers?

    • Yeahright

      He also forgets that due to population growth these “20,000” extra, statistically is a drop in poverty. Well I call it child abuse from their parents.

  • All_on_Red

    “Future of Work Commission”? Perfect for Robertson. All he has to do is travel around NZ talking talking talking. Hardly work is it. Not that Robertson is a great example of someone who knows how to work.
    Still, I guess Angry Andy has found a way to keep the knives out of town.

  • Arnie

    A lot of verbal but no actual policy, another 3 years of the same, no substance.

  • owl

    Lol oh dear – so Andrew Little is claiming he built Fonterra into the business today – if it wasnt for the EMPU and him Fonterra would not be here. Is he serious!
    41% of small businesses drive NZ – guess what – small businesses have been driving economies around the world since adam and eve – has he just realised this? For a union person did he only stumbled on this last night or something? What magazine was he reading at the dentist office?
    For Fitzroy Yachts to carry on Labour will need to fund the Amercias Cup as it is a major marketing tool – god news for Mr Dalton
    But here is the clanger – they are going give investment capital to small businesses so the can start up. see next post

  • no bullswool

    What a load of waffle.Policy? Where? A Commission for future jobs. That’s Little’s answer ‘form a committee’! ‘I’ve seen this in my working life’- as a unionist!- Fonterra achieved its increased productivity in spite of EPMU, because they are a profit driven company.Little is drawing a long bow connecting his union work with Fonterra to creating jobs.

  • owl

    Andrew Little promises free capital for small businesses!

    Good I am going to set up a fish and chip shop – I will employ 3 staff
    Labour will give me $100k in free capital so I succeed. I will buy the building and take out the landlord.
    My brother will set up a fish and chip right next door and get $100k of free capital from Andrew Little – we will pool our $200k and close down the fish chip shop. WE will then own a building in small town NZ and then sell it too some overseas investor.

    Brilliant Labour is definately going to make me wealthier.

  • He titled the speech


    *blank stare*

  • Cadwallader

    “The alarming spread of zero hour contracts.” It seems he signed one,as did Cunners when he took on the Labour Party leadership. His “zero hours” are evaporating quickly.

  • Dave

    Only got to the end of the first Paragraph and felt the blood pressure rise!

    I’m calling BS on that Andrew and I only wish Rob Fyfe would speak up here. The unions had all but crippled Air NZ. And you and your cronies lead the charge against them as big business and part of the government.

    I know for a fact it was Rob Fyfe who went down to the engineering maintenance workshops late one night to talk to the workers and engineers, against the requests and advise of his wife, he walked into the workshops alone, no minders and no union officials Angry Andy. He carefully explained the need for change and the need for the dr job cuts and

  • El Diablo

    Interesting that Little is rabbiting on about tackling unemployment when NZ already has one of the lowest rates of unemployment in the world. My suspicion is that what he really plans to do is massively increase the size of government by creating thousand of new, completely unneccesary public sector jobs which his no-hoper supporters can fill. This will boost the coffers of his union mates as of course all these new employees will join the union and he will claim it as a triumph because there will be far fewer unemployed people.

    • Deckboy

      As Helen Clark did.

  • cows4me

    I didn’t realise Fonterra was such a lefty outfit, probably explains a lot when I think about it. So old Cunny set it up and little old Andy got it running right, now I know whats happen to the payout, socialism.

    • David Moore

      I didn’t know the EPMU was so flash with business improvement, you’d think they could pick up a bit of consulting work on the side….

  • “Labour’s vision is that New Zealand will once again have the lowest unemployment in the developed world.”

    Ummm – thought we already did ??? given that at least 6% of our population (probably more) is dead set useless and unemployable we are currently doing pretty well with unemployment at 5.6%

  • Yeahright

    Now lets see how small businesses can grow with increased compliance costs, kiwisaver costs, union costs, wage cost……..
    I am a small business operator and this would send me deep deep into the ground.

  • Not Clinically Insane

    EPMU this… EPMU that… He really has no real world experience to call on does he? But his string-pullers will be happy

  • Lemuzz

    Increasing production is the easy part of running a business. Finding a market and keeping it, without poaching someone elses customers is the hard part. Small businesses cannot compete overseas.

  • owl

    Hold on hold on – did Little just say he increased and saved Air NZ – ummmmm didnt the Govt have to bail them out? Hows the fact checking going on this speech?

    • kaykaybee

      Let’s remember that his predecessor Mr Cunliffe single handedly formed Fonterra out of thin air so this just continues the walking on water but modest with it trend of recent Labour leaders.

  • no bullswool

    Gloom and doom are Little’s favourite rhetoric.Meanwhile in the real world ,NZ is out performing Australia , Little thinks GDP is not telling the whole story, that is because the story is all good news and doesn’t fit his ‘Little Red Hen- the sky is falling in’ rhetoric.

  • Disinfectant

    Didn’t Andrew Little claim to have reduced the number of staff at the EPMU in order to sort it out?
    So the Union can do it, but when a business has to lay off staff that’s a mean spirited business making a decision which wasn’t necessary.

  • R&BAvenger

    Little’s policy of doing away with zero hour contracts/part time jobs would result in higher unemployment, especially for women.
    The promise of more training. R&D tax breaks and $$$ form the NZ Superannuation Fund for new business start-ups means more government funding and more/higher taxes to pay for it.
    So far it is nothing but… More of the Same.

  • Note how they have left their editing comments in the speech.


    They still haven’t fixed it.

    Another “little” gaffe that makes NZ not have to take him seriously.

  • CheesyEarWax

    Much better than the rhetoric-based Cunliffe, however, he has missed a big opportunity to tell NZ who he is and where he came from, like Key’s “raised in a state house” story. Overall good to hear Little moving to the centre but a lot of the stuff he wants to achieve National is already doing, doing very well, i.e. jobs and the economy.

  • Kevin O’Brien

    An examplar of why Liabor never became the government. Now they are trying to think but socialist parrots are bird brained. Platitudes for policy equates to idiocy for ideas.

    Can anyone explain the latest political propogation that increasing wealth diminishes economic growth.

  • timemagazine

    The same old lines just spoken by a different leader this time. I waisted my time.

  • “Because as much as small business does now, I want them to do more.”

    Brilliant. Not as if we’re not already putting in 70-90 hour weeks, he wants us to do more.

    • CheesyEarWax

      He wants business owners to do more and unionised workers to do less.

  • stanman

    Failing to see any relevance in angry andys “state of the nation”-Your in opposition for a very good reason ,A: you are a bunch of negative losers b:The country is rocking C: Your never ending crisis’s have worn thin in the reality of the overwhelming evidence the economy has not only weathered the worst of situations -it has also grown.D: Unemployment is soon to be at levels whereby only the losers and the bludgers remain without work .

    Labours view on the economy is irrelevant-you took a complete hiding ,National Govern almost alone.


  • Disinfectant

    Been over to “Stuff”.
    Top billing is Andrew Little’s speech.
    But the facility to blog (comment) is not there. Wonder why this is?
    Thank goodness for Whale Oil. But how many Lefties read Whale Oil to get a more balanced view?

    • coltheman

      More than any of them will admit.

  • fergus

    Same meat, different gravy.
    Labour telling us we have problems (of their invention/imagination).
    Then trying to sell themselves as the solution.
    Without a plan or even a to do list.

    • Dave

      And without knowing if they can afford the first weeks shopping trip, or where the money will come from. Perhaps that’s why Russell has been MIA, he was awway manning the Green $$$ Printing Press..

  • who’stoblame

    Question: What will Angry Andy do to help small businesses such as ‘Whaleoil’ to become more successful, to grow and employ more people, to become even better, more innovative????

    • Huia

      He is already doing his part, giving Whaleoil plenty of fodder by just being, then more for being a Union man through and through, that wont change no matter what he is telling us he is going to do to help small business and their parasite owners and bosses. He is Union to the back bone which bodes ill for the country if he ever gets into the driving seat.

    • Dave

      And how will he help Freed get off the ground, and fund its expansion and marketing campaigns, Come on Andy, here is a few examples, step up man.


    So if I get this right—without Cunliffe and now Little our biggest business in NZ would be a gonner??? Well, that will make me vote Labour next time……

  • Sally

    Not sure helping creating and helping small business is going to help unemployment.
    By the time Labour slash the 90 day trial period, bring in the living wage, stop 0 hr contracts as a small business owner why would a small business owner run the risk of employing anyone.
    That is not even touching on the issue of unions.

    That speech is just rhetoric.

    • Disinfectant

      The Department of Labour has just reported that more and more employers are abrogating their responsibilities by treating employees as contractors when they are not.
      Classic case of cause and effect.
      It has simply got very hard and expensive to employ people with holiday provisions and no productivity and a host of other statutory impositions.

  • Michael

    I must be thick – what solutions are they actually suggesting other than more talk fests? (Where do I sign up for the “Future of Work Commission”?)

  • TSD

    And the report he refers to about growing inequality stated that it was from the late 90’s to the mid 2000’s, and has been relavtiely stable since… Nice one Andy, you just admitted Labour was responsible.

  • Lord Evans

    This speech should be titled How to Make a Small Fortune in NZ. In short, take a large fortune and apply Little Andy’s ideas. Voila!

  • kiwiinamerica

    Andy says he believes “in having more businesses that are nimble, flexible and innovative.” and then promises to ban one policy that helps achieve exactly that – zero hour contracts. Big rhetoric v reality gap…and that’s before he really starts to pay back his union mates who got him over the line with more union friendly promises.

  • no bullswool

    When Little was asked which country had the lowest unemployment rate and what it was by a reporter, after his speech, he could not answer the question.This lack of detail exposes the rhetoric for what it is. He does not even know what his own target %age is!! How lucky we have to have a PM who understands how important detail is!

  • coltheman

    Omg, I’m sorry I went to sleep reading that. How did his audience manage to stay awake?

  • ex-JAFA

    Cunliffe created Fonterra. Little built it up. Now he’s going to have Robbo turn it into a successful small business.

  • LabTested

    Andy points out that we have grown our trade with China enormously but is concerned that our Trade with China & OZ now account for 40% of our exports. Does that mean he supports the TPPA so that we can emulate the success we have had with the China free trade agreement.

  • Disinfectant

    Interesting heading typo mistake with “SNOT2014”!!

    • Karma

      Perhaps not…Same Numptyish Old Tripe?

  • ZAON

    what about the engineering jobs he didnt save with Ansett/QANTAS New Zealand???

    • Huia

      Interesting to hear Barry Soppy on Leighton Smith talking about the speeches. Bazza went straight into what a wonderful Man Little Angry Andy is, he virtually saved Air NZ single handedly along with Fonterra, who apparently speak very highly of him. Went on and on then spent 2 minutes on the Prime Minister with nothing positive there.

      • Dave

        He is acting out of love and lust, possibly on direct instructions from HDPA

  • Catriona

    I like the bit about “I was always conscious that wealth has to be created before it can be shared”. In my observations it’s usually the wealthy people who are doing the employing Andrew – nobody owes the anyone else a living – so don’t knock the employers. They took risks to become wealthy and obviously a few brains as well.
    Rule No. 1 – don’t jump in and promise things you can’t deliver to the employees on behalf of the employers otherwise you will find unemployment will swell.

  • Wallace Westland

    “In this regard I have already announced Labour’s Future of Work Commission led by Grant Robertson.”
    I knew it. I knew his solution to everything would be another commission, God they are so predictable.

    “Ten years ago, New Zealand had the lowest unemployment in the developed world. Today, we’ve slipped to ninth.’
    That’s because Andy, Helen slipped everyone off the unemployment and onto the invalids benefit to make her numbers better and give them a pay increase via me.

    And how come I don’t see the bit about repealing the 90 day trail and making zero hour contracts illegal? Or did I skim read the yawn…errr speech to fast?

  • Edward_L

    Another commission!! Loosely translated it means he doesn’t know how he will achieve it.
    It also means hundreds of jobs for Labour’s friends.

  • friardo

    Regardless of the drivel he spouts, coming up with an alternative State of the Nation speech has got him publicity from his MSM sympathisers. He may not be inspired or innovative, he may not speak well and has numerous other failings especially under pressure, but the guy is not dim, quite cunning even. He’ll have to do more than that though and he, personally, will have to do it better if he is to avoid being stabbed in the back by his “friends”.

  • Steely Man

    This is not the most exciting speech but the real job that we should do is ask: Are there any messages in here that could resonate with a chunk of the electorate given the right messenger? Nothing jumps out given the economy is going gangbusters. But that is the risk for us on the roght end of the political spectrum -an economic downturn and suddenly getting “help” from the government to keep my business afloat looks good.