Outraged? Come on first world problems people

Some people have nothing better to do other than be outraged.

This time is is over tweets from Dick Quax, especially one where he basically says Glen Innes is a crime suburb.

Auckland councillor Dick Quax has been causing a stir online with flippant comments about public transport and the regular presence of police in an Auckland suburb.

The Howick councillor and former Olympian, who describes himself as “pragmatic and moderate” on his Twitter page, sparked a lengthy debate on the social media site after several tweets to his 339 followers.

In one tweet on Friday, he appeared to suggest a nearby suburb was crime-ridden: “Police helicopter ‘Eagle’ now declared official bird of Glen Innes,” he said.

Some people responded with surprise, saying it was “unbelievable” and a “disgraceful” comment by an elected official.

Mr Quax defended his tweet yesterday, saying it was a personal observation which was accurate.

“In fact, the police helicopter was up there last night for another half-hour. It’s more common than anywhere else it appears.

“I don’t know if it’s got a high crime rate or not but it does seem the police helicopter does spend a lot of time there. You might want to check with police if it’s one of the areas they spend more time.”

Everyone in Auckland knows GI is a no go zone, you either drive thru it on a direct route or around it.

Glen Innes has one of the lowest crime resolution rates in the city, at just 8%.

But wait the outrage continues.

Mr Quax also fired up some Twitter users with his comments about public transport on Saturday.

Responding to a tweet which said the shopping mall Sylvia Park needed better transport options, Mr Quax said “no one in the entire Western world uses the train for their shopping trips”.

He later added: “[T]he very idea that people lug home their supermarket shopping on the train is fanciful”.

The tweets prompted more than 100 responses.

When some users pointed out that “smart, elegant Europeans” shopped without cars, he said these same people were responsible for starting two world wars.

Those “smart, elegant Europeans” don’t generally shop in supermarkets whereas most of us in Auckland do…and they aren’t in every suburb.

I’d like to see someone shop at Botany and take the train. Or Whangaparaoa, or anywhere on the North Shore for that matter.

As I said at the start these are first world problems.

There seems to be this underlying culture in Twitter that if someone says something different to you we can all gang up and attack them and run off to the media “outraged” or “offended”

Get a life. Be offended, nothing happens.


– NZ Herald


THANK YOU for being a subscriber. Because of you Whaleoil is going from strength to strength. It is a little known fact that Whaleoil subscribers are better in bed, good looking and highly intelligent. Sometimes all at once! Please Click Here Now to subscribe to an ad-free Whaleoil.

  • Damon Mudgway

    Sounds to me like Dick is enjoying the wind-up. Poor bugger having to try and work alongside beaurocratic troughers would see most people commit Twitter suicide.

  • FredFrog

    I used to live in Panmure near the border with GI. It was a very rare occurrence to NOT hear the police helicopter overhead at least once on any given night. We would certainly hear the police car sirens all the time.

    • Albert Lane

      It’s quite funny that if you want a short-cut from the South Auckland area to St Heliers, you have to drive through GI to get there. Chalk and cheese, and next-door to each other. I often wonder if they put a big locked gate across the road at night.

  • redherring

    “smart, elegant Europeans” shop online before lugging groceries on a train…

  • Rodger T

    One of the edicts of the Liberals is obviously to kill humour,no laughter allowed in the “brave” new world of neverending offense at everything.
    Offended is the new censorship,the constant refrain when the left speak is “freedom of speech” except when they disagree then it is “you can`t say that.”
    And to cap it off ,they are too obtuse to see their own hypocrisy.

    • Elinor_Dashwood

      Where in this article does anybody say “you can’t say that” – except Cameron himself?

      • Haven’t you got some treasury reports to write?

      • Rodger T

        The beauty of being unencumbered by the liberal thought police is that we are able to extrapolate what people invariably are thinking by how and not necessarily what they write.
        Now I don`t expect the literalists to understand that due to their indoctrination and inability to think outside the box of political correctness.
        Just my opinion ,feel free to ignore it.

  • Elinor_Dashwood

    Don’t really see the problem. People with different opinions exchanged views. So?

    • Then why is it news?

      I’ll tell you why…because it is Dick Quax and he is right wing so must be bashed by the Herald.

      • thehawkreturns

        Quax is one of the few Councillors who represent honest working rate payers. Well said Dick! Keep up the good work.

        • Albert Lane

          I believe it is a possibility that Dick Quax might make himself available as a mayoral candidate at the next elections. If he does, he’ll get my vote.

      • MrHippo

        And those self proclaimed experts and car haters on transportblog. if you read their posts next time you buy a couch or a 42″ LCD telly you are meant to cart it home on your 10-speed bike…

  • cows4me

    Wife has Whanau in Glen Innes, been there a few times, it’s a hard case outfit but the people seem nice enough.

  • Toby

    The word outrage is a MSM invention.
    Do a google search of it:

    outrage site:stuff.co.nz
    outrage site:herald.co.nz

    You get pages and pages of news stories featuring mildly upset people having a moan about something they don’t like.

    Outrage should be reserved for the most obscene. You know stuff that matters like maybe if the Government decide to make being Maori illegal or to banish poor people to Taranaki. That would be outrage.

    A woman called Betty from Hamilton annoyed at the cost of flying to Wellington and having a moan to the local rag is not outrage. It’s sad.

    • Elinor_Dashwood

      As far as it is possible to tell from this article, the words “outrage” and “offended” are not used either in the original report or by any of the participants in the Twitter exchange. They are used by Cameron himself. He is the one describing people who expressed disagreement with a Twitter comment as being “outraged” or “offended” by the original comment.

      • O RLY?

      • Albert Lane

        Yes, but Cam obviously reads the Daily Mail, and the use of their regularly published extreme adjectives becomes second nature after a while.

    • Poor people should be banished to Palmerston North

      • Toby

        As someone who used to live in Palmerston North, I am outraged by that statement Cam.

        To be fair, I was a “poor” student.

        • thehawkreturns

          I would suggest sending the poor to Glen Innes. Alas, there is no room as it is filled with criminals.

        • Albert Lane

          I’m a former Massey University student. The people of Palmerston North were very tolerant towards us, and they provided plenty of part-time work for us. Thanks, Palmie.

      • Damon Mudgway

        Ahem, there are many many fabulous aspects to Palmy Nth other than being a haven to the financially challenged. Firstly, it is flat, so it’s great for cyclists, secondly it’s….um, er. It’s flat.

      • Effluent

        NZ’s answer to Scunthorpe.

    • Albert Lane

      I read the London Daily Mail on-line every day. At one stage I made a daily count of their most commonly-used adjectives used in their headlines, of which there are about 25, one of their favourites being “outraged”. However, apart from the over-use of some words, the DM makes very interesting (but time-consuming) reading, and you can comment on about 95% of their articles.

  • Wendy

    For all of you who have had countless trips on the tube in London or the Metro in Paris or anywhere else…how many times have you seen someone lugging their shopping on the train?

    My answer: Never.

    • Jas

      That is true.
      Of course how they shop there is different to how people tend to shop here. A lot more people due to cost, location (centre of the city) and lifestyle tend to do small shops and eat out more so don’t buy large amounts from supermarkets.
      And if they do large shoping will take a taxi home with the shopping.

    • EX RNZN RM1

      In London the beautiful people would use Ocado ( they work with Waitrose )
      to deliver and you and me would get Asda or Sainsbury’s or Tesco to deliver all via the Internet

      In France and Spain Carrefour offer to deliver your shopping from the store for free if you spend 50 Euros , so you can select your own Tomato’s etc

      • Wendy

        Carrefour have the biggest carparks I have ever seen…because everyone there DRIVES to the supermarket. They don’t take the stupid train to the supermarket.

        • Stuarts.burgers

          That would be the Carrefour Hypermarkets bang a Warehouse and a Pak and Save together and that what you get but Carrefour have a range of different offers with inner city markets to big box Hypermarkets you refer to.

    • Nic C

      Can’t speak for Paris, but you’re quite correct with regard to London (NYC to a lesser degree).

      • Albert Lane

        I reckon that in Oxford Street, about 1/3 of all pedestrians are carrying Primark paper bags. For those of you who don’t know Primark, they sell cut-price clothing, most of which comes from manufacturers in places like Turkey. And boy, it’s inexpensive. There is a huge store almost opposite Marble Arch tube station, and you’ll find them dotted around a number of towns and cities in the UK. Amazing value. You can wheel around a large wheeled shopping bag (like a trolley) around the shop for your purchases, and it’s amazing how many people’s bags are full to the brim.

        • Albert Lane

          Mind you, we do get ripped off for clothing in NZ. I shop at Marks and Spencer a bit further down Oxford Street and on the other side of the road. I can buy really good trousers there for 20 quid ($40), which would cost me around 4 times more in NZ, and you should make sure you ask for a VAT receipt, and when you leave the UK, you can claim back the tax at the airport, so they’re even cheaper.

    • david

      Your answer is wrong, just like Quax was wrong, (well you may never have seen it, but people do) but that is not the point. While he was exaggerating, the basic truth is that carrying shopping in cars is much easier than attempting public transport. I have taken groceries on the MRT in Hong Hong, and I assure you that *is* a challenge. In Wellington I often walk to my nearest supermarket and get a taxi back.

      • Wendy

        My answer is wrong?
        I asked a question and gave you my experience. There is nothing wrong about the way I described my personal experience.

        • david

          Hence my parenthesised comment. In fact I should have said you may not remember seeing it, but people do. People who rely on public transport tend to buy lesser quantities more often. But I am agreeing with you its far more convenient if you have a car and the stores have car parking.

        • david

          By the way there is a supermarket in the wellington station concourse. I doubt if it is there for car-based shoppers

  • Benoni

    Glen Innes a “no go area”..what a load of twaddle. We live in remuera and shop there heaps. Benoni jnr went to the eastern suburbs gym with hundreds of other 5 to 10 year olds from Auckland’s eastern suburbs. Sacred Heart College, one of Aucklands better schools is located there. Admittedly some of my nephews living in the adjoining Panmure area help to make the area tough but that is no different from when we were growing up in this large “state built house” suburbia.

    • Sagacious Blonde

      Marsic Bros fish is worth the trip on its own. Love the smell of their fish smoking wafting across the shopping centre. Some good shops along Apirana Ave, and some of the best opshops anywhere.

  • Deb

    Just so happens that the people of Glen Innes use the train to Sylvia Park to shop in steady numbers. Of course groups of kids, but also families. And are seen carrying many shopping bags from Count Down and Pak n Save.

  • HSV325

    Or police car sirens in GI are called the Glen Innes Anthem

    • Rodger T

      Out west I call them the bogan mating call.