Rankin calls for Burqa ban at Waitangi

burqa_ban

Outspoken Ngaphui leader David Rankin had called for a ban of the burqa at Waitangi.

Presumably not just for Waitangi Day but all times.

With the 175th anniversary of the Treaty of Waitangi approaching, the Ngapuhi leader David Rankin has called for a ban on burqas being worn at Waitangi, citing cultural reasons:

“Islam condemns cultures that do not comply with its rules.  We therefore see Islam as a direct threat to our rangatiratanga (sovereignty) and our culture,” he says.  

Mr Rankin, the senior descendent of Hone Heke, says that a number of Maori are starting to see Muslims as the new colonizer.  “They are coming to our country and refusing to accept the indigenous values of Aotearoa.”  He says he has had discussions with members of the Muslim community over the last twelve months who have said they oppose carvings on marae, which they see as idols, and oppose “our karakia, our tangi rites and rituals, our origin beliefs, and Maori faiths such a Ringatu and Ratana.”

“By banning the burqa at Waitangi this year,” says Mr Rankin, “we are reminding the world that no-one can force us to change our culture.  We respect other cultures, but they have to understand that they must respect ours.”

Good on him, adherents to Islam do not respect our culture so I don’t see why we should respect theirs.

The most ridiculous thing I saw yesterday was some Muslim women at the beach in full burqa while their bearded oppressor was wandering around in his shorts and singlet, and then to top it all off they pulled out the rugs and started their prayers…all the while with my BBQ pork smoke wafting across them. He managed a frolic in the ocean while his chattels sweltered in the burqa and only dabbled their feet in the water.

Disgusting. Good on David Rankin.

 


THANK YOU for being a subscriber. Because of you Whaleoil is going from strength to strength. It is a little known fact that Whaleoil subscribers are better in bed, good looking and highly intelligent. Sometimes all at once! Please Click Here Now to subscribe to an ad-free Whaleoil.

  • conwaycaptain

    Well done David

  • Huia

    I agree with David Rankin but would like to see the Burka banned completely, it has no place in the NZ culture, not at Waitangi, not in the street, not in the cafes and malls. Get rid of the dammed thing.

    • spanishbride

      It is worse that a gang patch I totally hate it. My skins crawls when I see it. 1) It subjugates the poor woman inside it. 2) It says I am APART from you, I am not part of your world. At the beach yesterday there were Hijabs and two women in an almost full Burqa all in black on a hot hot day. The men got to swim and wear shorts, singlets and black beards and the women got to sit under a tree or paddle. The one in the almost full Burqa was so hot she went down to the sea to splash water on the parts of her face not covered by hideous black material that would have absorbed all the sun’s rays. They finished their day facing Mecca and bobbing up and down on prayer mats.They are in the minority today but I fear the day when they are in large enough numbers to harass my daughter and I when we are swimming telling us to cover up, and telling us that we are being shameful and trying to seduce men.

      • Huia

        I loathe it to, was in the public toilets in a mall in Auckland and there was one using the next basin to me, I though I would stretch a hand across the cultural divide, so greeted her and made a comment about what a lovely day it was. She stopped washing her hands, faced me and just stared and stared daggers at me and narrowing her eyes, nothing friendly, no movement and no blinking, it made me very uncomfortable. She held that stance until Id finished touching up the lippy and fluffing the with the hair (as I wanted to see how long it went on), she did not move even when I left, I went out the door then a couple of minutes later popped my head around the corner and she was still standing and watching the door. Very odd experience.

        • Nic C

          You should’ve asked her ‘what the halal is your problem??’

          • pak

            Very witty Nic – good to have a bit of humour to lighten up the otherwise hideous prospect of the expansion of burqa-wearing in N.Z.!

          • Nic C

            Indeed… though in fact, there was actually a serious ‘under tone’. I was initially going to say that you should’ve ‘called’ her on reaction. What an utterly and completely inappropriate, rude, arrogant and totally unnecessary way for one to conduct themselves, when the other person (you) was being nothing but hospitable, friendly and welcoming towards her and unlike many people, treated her as a human being and equal.

            Not only has she alienated you (and many others who you have shared this story with) against the ‘supposed’ intergration and acceptance challenges they face… but I imagine there’s plenty of people (like me) who look at this situation you faced and are wondering if you just happened to come face to face with a real-life ‘extremist’ of this insidious and pervasive ‘faith’… here in NZ.

            That’s quite serious me thinks.

            (edit) tenses

          • pak

            Very perceptive comments. Certainly was a passive aggressive response to a friendly approach, and of course the burqa does provide a very convenient disguise behind which to hide for those who wish to do us harm. In this case me thinks we will probably never know.

        • MoggieManiac

          Imagine if she hated the position she was in, but knew if she was caught responding to you and reported to her husband/family she would suffer terrible abuse.
          Then imagine her standing rigid as you left, totally knowing her position was hopeless and there was NO options for her but submission. There would be no safe haven anywhere where she could not be found and “dealt to”.
          Imagine if you found yourself in that position.
          This is why we must take a stand against such a destructive regime, NOW.

      • Salacious Crumb

        Their men are weak then. Maybe Freud was right and Muslim men are the prime example of the conflicts that come with Id suppression.

      • pak

        This is very confronting. Was down at beach the other day with my young grand daughter and would have been shocked to encounter such a sight. I fear for her future if Islam spreads in New Zealand and she faces the sort of verbal abuse that U.K. journalist encountered when she returned to her home town and followed a march of Muslims with their aggressive shouting of anti Police rants and abusing her choice of clothing.

      • Simo

        They are just trying to provoke someone to have a go at them so they can see the PC police rock up and charge the individuals with causing mental anguish and using hate speech. They are cunning little pieces of excrement. If the confrontation was done by 100 people plus who are then dragged off might trigger public opinion. A decent “MINTY” loud hailer would do the trick

  • john Doe

    David Rankin seems to be a sensible fellow. Be good of him to follow up with condemnation of Maori domestic violence and make a statement about how to solve the disproportionate amount of young Maori in jail. Perhaps condemnation of Maori dominated gangs would also be good. We should clean up our own back yard as well as sorting out this problem with Islam

    • Reaper

      To be fair, he has being trying:

      “But Mr Rankin, a leader of the Matarahurahu hapu of Ngapuhi, said the term Maori child abuse is an accurate reflection of what some Maori are doing to their children.

      He said Maori need to take ownership of the problem and stop trying to whitewash it.” …

      ” “The Government has been throwing millions of dollars into these problems but the situation is only getting worse.”

      Mr Rankin said whanau must take a greater role in monitoring their members. “This is a problem for all Maori. It’s time for us to take that warrior energy and deal to these thugs.” ”

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11051172

  • Cadwallader

    Good on him, but I am surprised it is even an issue. Does he suspect a few maoris are converting to Islam?
    It is amazing that Islamos oppose carvings on a marae yet are content to undertake throat carvings on street corners and civic squares.

  • spanishbride

    Fantastic! I totally agree with him.
    “Islam condemns cultures that do not comply with its rules. We
    therefore see Islam as a direct threat to our rangatiratanga
    (sovereignty) and our culture,”
    I see Islam as a direct threat to Kiwi Culture and Kiwi Law. Finally someone with the balls to state the obvious. It is not as if Islam is subtle about it.

    • Cadwallader

      SB, what will be interesting is learning how the Greenies co-leaders will respond to this fair and accurate statement by Mr Rankin? The hypocrites in the Greens will try to place a foot in each camp.They are so embracing of NZ’s allegedly indigenous culture while resenting surveillance of jihadis in our land.

      • Goldfish

        What will be even more interesting is whether Dame Susan will dare to come out with an opinion on it.

  • Andy

    Good grief, now I feel like becoming a Maori.

    • Odd Ball

      I’m part Maori, today, I’m just a bit prouder about it.

  • KQ

    “Good on him, adherents to Islam do not respect our culture so I don’t see why we should respect theirs.”
    I agree with him on the Islam thing. Even more respect would be gained for Maori if they began to appreciate what the colonizers, who were invited by Maori to come to NZ, have done for their race since 1840. Rankin can start by calling for abolition of the Waitangi Tribunal.

    • Reaper

      He already has.

      “Lets be clear. The Tribunal exists to make lawyers, and a few elite Maori very rich. It has deprived our people from their birthright and divided and destroyed many of our communities. The sooner it is shut down the better.”

      http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/11/david-rankinl/#more-163375

  • Diddle_De_Dee

    Good on David Rankin. I totally agree with him. We have given sanctuary to these immigrants and it is up to them to adapt and embrace our way of life. If they do this then they are welcome to live here. If they don’t then they can return to their country of origin.

  • Bean

    What would be the reaction to confronting and questioning the burqa brigade when they’re out in public? If I wore a balaclava down the street no doubt I would get a heckling and probably even stopped by the police.

    • spanishbride

      Remember that though the women are the most obvious targets of hecking they are actually the victims of this political cult of oppression. Haven’t they been abused enough by their own cult?

      • Bean

        Quite right, the beared ones are the real problem

        • Huia

          The thing is Bean, you are never quite sure there isnt a bearded one under all that material, especially when I get on a plane, very uneasy feeling

        • Cowgirl

          Just saw a woman with a facial burka on (not full) and it’s so creepy, especially all in black. My first thought of course was “ugh, why is she wearing that”, but I almost immediately turned to the Canada hoodie-clad man she was trailing behind and thought “he’s to blame”.

      • Cadwallader

        The problem here is the evasive and invisible line between being a victim and being an endorser of the “culture.” Who are we to assume that all females in Islam resent its vile regime. To do so may be ambitious.

  • Salacious Crumb

    Good on David Rankin. His comment has summed it all up quite succinctly. I do wonder though, whether he will now be slammed by Susan Devoy for such a wanton display of intolerance, I mean honesty.

  • Bartman

    Ban the burqa and it’s oppressive symbolism now!

  • Eiselmann

    .Will John Minto finally have the courage of his convictions and protest this affront to Islam at Waitangi…guess we’ll find out soon enough which paymaster pays the most.

  • G-Man

    Well done Mr Rankin….I am of English decent, a first generation NZ’er….if this is your platform as a call for solidarity, where do I sign? No other bugger in charge is seeing the problems on the road ahead or appears to have the testicular fortitude to say what we are all thinking!

  • Taser

    Good on him for putting it out there. Something needs to be done because if I went to their country I would have to comply with the barbaric sharia laws. So why not the other way around. I am not allowed to walk into a bank in my own country with a crash helmet on yet they can walk in covered from head to toe & no one knows who is under there. Wait until there is a big robbery with the crim dressed in a burqa because they are allowed into the bank unquestioned.
    Just an aside, what culture doesn’t allow women to speak on a marae.

    • >> Just an aside, what culture doesn’t allow women to speak on a marae.

      Yes, an inconvenient truth, for sure!

      • wooted

        Some marae don’t, some do.

    • waldopepper

      yes, at the supermarket i walked in wearing my crash helmet and was asked to remove it, which i think to be fair was probably a reasonable request. when i asked why i was told it was because it was intimidating to others to not be able to see my face, which again, i think is fair enough. as i removed it i noticed the lady in the burka at the end of the aisle i was in, and asked how they would be handling that. she of course, was allowed to stay hidden.

      • OneTrack

        Are you sure it was a “she”?

  • intelligentes candida diva

    Wonderful news of Mr Rankins stance. I trust he will succeed. NZ has worked long and hard to get to where we are and, with a few battles along the way but democracy rules for all. All achieved without Sharia dictatorial terrorising techniques!!

  • Pete

    I have often wondered if we will ever see some sort of collaboration between Maori and Muslims, I see a time when they will cosy up together, against us evil white Christian oppressors…all the time of course you just know the Maori will be looked upon as useful idiots, a bit like when .com used Hone and Mana.

    • petedude

      I’d also wondered this – consider that of the 100,000+ converts to Islam every year in the USA, the vast majority are disaffected African Americans. And here in NZ we already have the “Islamic State of Aoteoroa”:

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11366879

      So actually this statement from David Rankin is quite reassuring if it reflects the attitude of the majority of Maori toward Islam.

    • niggly

      No, as David Rankin succinctly points out: they “oppose “our karakia, our tangi rites and rituals, our origin beliefs, and Maori faiths such a Ringatu and Ratana”, so why should “genuine” Maori support Islamism?

      Especially when the hard core Islamists destroy references to other faiths and civilisations (including other strands of Islam as practiced by the more moderate Muslim minorities) i.e. anything and everything else but their own.

      However fools like that well known Maori “Jihadist” in the Hawkes Bay are clearly in some sort of collaboration and he is clearly dumping on Maori traditional beliefs and his own whakapapa (genealogy). He clearly needs some “re-educating” by those from his tribal Marae ….

  • Bart67

    Yet another reason why David Rankin should be the Maori King! Why is it every time that man speaks, I find myself wanting to buy the man a beer!

    • James

      bcos he has balls. and a brain

    • thehawkreturns

      Agree. Bloody good bloke.

  • Bombastic

    Maori vs Islam, I see heads exploding all over the shop on the left.

    • Mick Ie

      Islam will be the catalyst in unifying all the different cultures within NZ. When it happens, It won’t be Maori vs Islam. It will be NZers vs Islam.

      • Simo

        This is the catalyst to draw all New Zealanders together and it will unify us all….we have Maori and Pakeha in our family. This is our country.

      • Martin

        You are right on the money with this Mick. There is a retarded group in Fox sector who want to portray Muslims as a liberating force, rescuing Maori from pakeha oppression. This must be debated forcefully and exposed for the nonsense it is.
        Recruitment to radical Islam will start among gangs and ferals here just as it did in Europe.
        If we’re not ready we’ll be dhimi by the turn of the century.

        • James

          the biggest “repression” Maori face in NZ is the welfare system (warfare system)

      • OneTrack

        And which side will the progressives be on?

    • OneTrack

      Agreed. Who to support? Who to vilify? There are no bad white men to blame. Can we blame this on John Key or George Bush like everything else? Aaaarrghh.

      Bang

  • stanman

    Ban the disgraceful garment in NZ.. It has no place whatsoever in our society. I’m sick to the back teeth of pandering to some other societies garbage. We have our culture, accept it and interact as is expected or bugger off. I will not tolerate these tourists trashing our heritage, religion,way of life. Supposedly we are taught to accept, well I don’t. The concept of hiding your woman and murder in the name of religion is disgusting. Shut the gate, we should not let one more of this lot in.
    The sight of a Burqa in our NZ society is nothing but a reminder of the hatred it represents.

    • wooted

      Go one step further. Advise all prospective immigrants that burqas are not welcome, and that sharia will never be implemented. If you don’t like it, don’t come here.

      • James

        and just one step further- no more immigrants- until housing stocks increase. stop selling us out, or face arrest for treason.

  • Whitey

    Well said, Mr Rankin. Quite right too, they don’t respect Maori culture or any other culture.

  • steve and monique

    Now if only all of the parties had enough of a backbone to make this a statement for ALL New Zealander’s, Respect the beliefs of this country or we don’t want you here. Goodbye.

  • JustanObserver

    Over in the ‘West Island’ at Wet’n’Wild,
    I was amazed to see women wearing Full-Burka swim-suits there.
    Fair-Dinkum, full-covered, only eyes exposed, non-body-hugging swimsuits.
    Must’ve been a refreshing break from only being able to dip their toes in at the beach.
    Their Slave-Masters were hard-out ogling all the skimpy-clad women in bikinis though, and paying no attention to their property.

    • oldmanNZ

      that is just so ironic and full of hiprocrisy.
      They do not approve of women exposing themselves but ok to support and attend a place full of half naked females, eating pork sausages, laugthin, dancing.

      or Maybe, these are not the full extreme muslim and are ok with other cultures.?

      And why the women still wear full burka? probably out of fear, or hiding the acid attacks? or respect of there culture?
      Or as a sun block.

      • Bean

        I doubt melanoma will be a muslim problem (for this current crop anyway), I think long term the mindset will eventually be dragged kicking and screaming 1400 years forward.

        • conwaycaptain

          Vitamin D deficiency certainly is

          • ex-JAFA

            Maybe they dress as they do now to hide the leg braces that rickets has necessitated they wear… because of how they used to dress.

      • Luis Cannon

        Very good reason for the burqua. Muslim men are so insecure and useless, they are afraid their women will be lured away by a superior male.

        • OneTrack

          They are probably right.

    • Max

      Why would they be allowed to swim in a public pool fully clothed when anyone else swimming in the same pool wearing a tee shirt or cotton dress is hauled out because of the health hazard and contamination from washing detergents?

      • Papillon

        Also the water safety hazard of swimming fully clothed.

      • OneTrack

        Because otherwise it would be “raysist”.

        • Max

          I have to assume this is a deliberate spelling mistake ,so could you please explain your joke to this simple soul. It goes right over my head I have to say.

        • thehawkreturns

          The correct spelling is “raaaaaaaaaacist”
          “Raysist” obviously refers to Aussie lifesavers who pull out white women in T shirts and leave the camels in the burkas to frolic in the sun.

      • Dave

        Very little risk from clothing etc being a health hazard or contamination, but it is a huge risk of causing drowning, heavy clothes etc…… Those pools can contain over a million litres of water, and have high-ish sanitizer levels.

        • Max

          None the less ,try wearing a tee shirt or women wear a cotton dress while swimming. Whistles blowing every where.

  • Sorry, I think he also means that ‘Maoridom condemns cultures that do not comply with its rules.’ This is sort of like the pot calling the kettle black. There are plenty of Maori who aren’t cultural supremacists, as there are Moslems who aren’t, but it’s disturbingly few in both cases (compared with what you’d expect from ordinary sensible people) and in the same breath he can say, ‘They are coming to our country and refusing to accept the indigenous values of Aotearoa.’ Yup, and what if I don’t support those same ‘values’? I shouldn’t be respected?

    • Honcho

      At the end of the day this is New Zealand (Aotearoa), and to be fair to Mr Rankin he isn’t talking about taking maori culture global, or forcing it on anyone, rather the opposite when he is showing opposition to islamic culture being taken global, and being forced on everyone.
      I don’t care much for maori culture, but I respect that our maori people have their own unique culture, and I strongly oppose anyone who has come here from anywhere else who would try and change that, and more so the panty waisted politically correct enamblers.

      • Having their own culture is not the same thing as shoving it down other peoples throats, which is often the case with the supposed ‘Maori’ position (alas, special interest groups often get to claim the whole in ‘their name’). The fact that they do it here, not abroad, is very nice (for everyone else), but it’s still the same thing (just localised, rather than globalised). Islam isn’t my cuppa, by any means, but it’s still a joke to say that you aren’t tolerant of other people, and we aren’t, but you’re wrong for it! This is really just headline grabbing (how many Moslems actually want to attend Waitangi?)

    • Salacious Crumb

      Why do indigenous values of Aotearoa have to pertain to Maori only?

      • Hmm…let me think about that…perhaps because New Zealand is a slightly different construct from ‘Aotearoa’?

        • Salacious Crumb

          I disagree. Aotearoa is the Maori word for a European descriptor. I do agree that citizens of NZ can have different cultural ‘constructs’ but one of the great things about living here is the unique lifestyle we all share. Equality and recognition of their culture are things that Maori have fought hard for and I suspect they see Islam as a great threat to that.

          • They also see ‘white supremacist Northern Europeans’ as a threat (e.g. that bird from Auckland University Maori Studies department) and anyone, basically, who doesn’t want to pander to them (those pesky ‘Asians’). We get to share a culture, but I don’t think separatists (who want their own ‘culture’, regardless of the mainstream), who are proposing to exclude another group based on clothing, have any real high ground to stand on. I happen to believe in, and prefer, a more unified cultural position, but I don’t believe that gives preferential treatment to any group, rather than my group is okay, your group should be quiet.

  • NZ 2014

    I wonder how the media will report this? interesting……………

    • oldmanNZ

      probably racist, insensitive and offensive……
      but then that would offend the Maoris by calling them racist and insensitive.

      so my guess is they will report it as a understandable suggestion but repsect needs to be shown for all cultures such as turbans and skull caps and bhudda shaved heads.

      • NZ 2014

        I guess we may find out very soon.

      • Luis Cannon

        And respect for their Temples of Duplicity and Terror, otherwise known as mosques.

    • BR

      They probably won’t

      Bill.

    • OneTrack

      Haven’t seen any mention of it yet.

  • cows4me

    Our enemy isn’t the towel headed idiots it’s our weak, politically correct politicians that have sold us out to organisations like the UN who scream human rights for minorities. We have signed our sovereignty away to evil scum and our politicians have been willing participants. Those calling for the burqa to be removed are dreaming, I bet if we even had a referendum on the subject the vast proportion would say ban it but it wouldn’t happen. This is not our country anymore it was taken from us by politicians like Clark and her gang of Marxists. Agenda 21 is at play here and social disorder is high on their play book. The transfer of tens of millions of these Neanderthals will continued unhindered because it’s the law now.

    • James

      brilliant. and reassuring to hear still some people paying attention.

    • thehawkreturns

      and the UN is a Muslim organisation funded by the USA.

  • conwaycaptain

    Nowhere in the Koran does it say that women should be covered head to toe. It just says that ALL people should dress modestly.
    Also it says that all people should be educated as well.

    • Stuarts.burgers

      Often it is not so much the words in religious texts that cause the problem it is somebody’s later interpretation that cause the problems.

    • tinfoilhatguy

      Modest is a subjective term.

      Back when I was Melbourne based there used to a group of muslim guys who would set up a stall in Burke St mall on the weekends and proselytize. They all wore the traditional tunics and looked like they’d just stepped off a flight from Afghanistan.

      I once asked one of them if they wanted Aussie women to wear burkas – he said to me ‘we want Aussie women to dress modestly’. As their women would sit around in full burkas close by I knew exactly what he meant.

    • sandalwood789

      “Educated”, yes, but what is meant by that (of course) is what we would call *indoctrination*.
      Brainwashing – learning the Quran over and over.

      That is yet another example of care needing to be taken when Muslims say that Islam is about “education”.
      People need to “re-parse” that term and realise that it means indoctrination.

      After you’ve seen misleading statements like that many times (as I have), it becomes second-nature to instantly re-parse them and expose what the Muslims really mean.

  • Max

    What would happen if these women needed to be rescued from the water and have CPR applied to save them if they got themselves into difficulties while swimming fully clothed in their ridiculous outfits.
    Freak waves at many beaches here are not uncommon.
    Would only female life guards be allowed to rescue them?
    Would they be stoned to death for adultery if a male not related to them applied mouth to mouth resuscitation or chest pumped them if no female life guards were on hand?
    I can imagine the foam flecked outrage.

    • ex-JAFA

      Sky fairy rules have little practical application in the real world. A Jehovah’s Witness who suffers a major laceration is as good as dead.

    • James

      brilliant- ban Islam to prevent more drownings in NZ. Its for their own safety. Nothing to do with religions.

  • kayaker

    We were walking along the beachfront yesterday (Tamaki Drive area). A car drove up and parked. The driver got out – he was in clothes appropriate for the beach on a sweltering hot day. A few seconds later, the front seat passenger got out – she was in partial burqa (face could be seen), then two women in full burqa got out of the back seat. One of them turned around just as I walked past and we made eye contact. I will never forget the look in those eyes. She seemed quite young.

    • LesleyNZ

      It sickens me whenever I see the male feeling cool on a hot summer’s day and the female of the partnership bundled up in a tent – sweltering. Who would choose to wear a burqa or hijab on a hot summer’s day? I think it is a health and safety issue. The women who do not choose to wear this Muslim clothing and are forced to wear it are being treated like second class citizens. They don’t dare complain though ………..

      • AndrewML

        Certainly should not be allowed to drive with a burqa on as you would have no peripheral vision.

        • Nige.

          Not to mention their arms can be restricted

      • kayaker

        We’ve been going up to Malaysia quite regularly over the years. Burqas on the beach are a common sight. They even do watersports, parasailing etc.

    • James

      hot?

      • kayaker

        Don’t know James. I’m a girl :)

        • MaryLou

          Huh – I thought he meant the weather!!

  • Just a thought …

    Wow- this could get interesting when Maori realise that WE aren’t the enemy and that the goalposts have shifted …….

  • conwaycaptain

    The wives used to walk behind the man in N Africa until after WW 2 when they walked in front to set the land mines off!!!

  • Benoni

    Ban the Burqua is a good Idea, and the hijab. No more Islamic people should be allowed to immigrate into the country with their belief in the “racism-promoting, genocide-promoting, hate filled Koran.

  • conwaycaptain

    The new Saudi King had an attempt on his life. An Al quada leader wanted to surrender to the King and he sent his private plane for him and he arrived in the kings office and blew himself up using explosives hidden in body cavities.
    There was a photo of the would be assassin (remember tis word comes from Arabic and is derived from the word Hashish which they were all drugged up on). This assassin was a prime example of inter breeding if ever there was one.

  • intelligentes candida diva

    Kia kaha, e tu ngatahi Aotearoa, no to tatou tikanga manapori whawhai pakeke me ona kohakore, ki sharia tikanga urutomo!!
    Translated =
    Be strong, stand together Aotearoa, for our hard fought democratic culture with its flaws, against sharia invasive techniques

    • James

      nice – together. ignore the Roman (Rome’s) Divide and Rule – and get Serco out of the Prison system- where they are teaching radical Islam every day.

    • MaryLou

      Well done!!

      • intelligentes candida diva

        I had help

  • CouchKumara

    Most young woman from public schools would try to tell you that the burqa’ed up women is is just expressing her freedom to choose what she wears and is dressing modestly.

    The only place for the Burqa is as a role playing accessory in the bedroom of consenting married couples. Saying that if we ban the Burka we are going to have to ban smog culture fashion as well.

    • pak

      Having lived in Asia for many years I can attest to the fact that these masks on occasion are very practical in filtering out the heavy air pollution which at times forces people to stay indoors. And some people are more susceptible than others to poor air quality. I think there is a whole world of difference between men and women wearing masks for health purposes and the women-only burqa.

      • CouchKumara

        I don’t necessarily disagree with you but there has to be a cogent argument for why these masks are allowed but the Burqa is not, as this will be thrown back in the face of anyone who argues that the Burqa should be banned. I wonder if there has been a study on the effectiveness of wearing surgical masks out in public against catching a cold or reducing the effects of smog?

        • pak

          In Japan it is considered a show of consideration to others to wear a face mask in public when there is a possibility you may spread an illness, so I don’t think anyone there would see any relationship between that practice and the wearing of a burqa. Similarly in large cities in China it is common when pollution is bad and almost everyone in Hong Kong used them during the SARS outbreak. From my experience the countries where surgical masks are commonly worn in public do not have large Muslim populations in any event and they would be very perplexed if this argument against them wearing it was even raised, as indeed I was. To me the fact that one is practiced for health reasons by both men and women and the other is confined to women and is for “religious” reasons is a cogent enough argument.

          • KiaOra

            Same goes for my doctor ‘s office in Auckland

          • CouchKumara

            Its funny you mention the Japanese not that Grandad would approve but he did spend quite a few months on a god forsaken atoll in the pacific waiting to be attacked by the nips. Anyway my Japanese flatmate finally invited two lovely Japanese woman over for dinner. Thank goodness, i I was starting to believe he was batting for the other team. My word those Japanese girls can talk!! The poor guy never had a chance!!

          • pak

            My father flew with the NZ Air Force during last War and was at Guadalcanal when The Allies were victorious over the Japanese so he may have been there with your grand father! He rarely spoke of the War but I recall him mentioning once how much one of his mates suffered at the hands of the Japanese after being captured. He was very tall and towered over the camp’s commander, which they hated so treated him very badly. He would be horrified to see the what is going on in world today with IS brutality, burqa wearers in N.Z. etc. (On talking – had a British boss once when I worked in Hong Kong who had a Japanese wife. Always chattering on. He something of a misogynist and apparently she under orders that she allowed to talk for half an hour after he got home then had to shut up!!).

  • Rex

    Ha ha your BBQ story reminds me of some taxi driver friends who have a number of Muslims in their Company. At a Company BBQ these guys put pork sausages into beef sausage packets and everyone ate them! Dunno if that means the Mus taxi drivers won’t get to meet Mohab or not?

    • Howie ManUnited Stoffberg

      ignorance is bliss

      • Bean

        Much more fun to tell them afterwards!

  • James

    we need to stop our Serco/ British run prisons from forcing it upon young Maori inmates also – something they seem to be either doing themselves or deliberately supporting. the vast number of Islamic conversions are happening in the british run prison system – as we speak. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia%E2%80%93United_Kingdom_relations

    • david

      Maori + Islam will be a formidable enemy. I am afraid.

  • Last week SB put up a post that included photos of two young men being thrown off a building, and a burqa clad woman being stoned to death. I found all the photos deeply disturbing, and was horrified at the evilness and absolute inhumanity of the perpertrators. As I looked at the photos of the young men I wondered about their last moments, their terror, the hideous sensation of being pushed then falling, and thought about their families and what they might be going through.
    I then realised that I wasn’t thinking the same way towards the burqa clad woman and was, I have to admit, uncomfortable about my lack of similar compassion to what must surely have been a most painful, lonely and terrifying last moments of this woman’s life.
    I realised that what seperated me from this woman was her burqa. Her burqa had made her a non-entity, a faceless, voiceless black sack of nothing. Her burqa made her not worthy of compassion and consideration, it dehumanised her and set her apart.
    I feel stronger than ever that the burqa and niqab have no place in NZ society, so good on David Rankin for speaking out.

    • JustanObserver

      Nicely put, sad but accurate.

    • thehawkreturns

      An excellent post. NZ may be quick enough to act to stop this before it is too late. Perhaps the Maori our our “hinge of fate”?

  • Not the same Chris

    Rankin is an idot

    • Clifford Anderson

      so are you

      • Not the same Chris

        I made that one post and Im apparently screened no.

        Peachy

  • Mike K

    How long do you think it will take until pork and non halal products are banned from being bbq’d at public places to appease the religion of piece(s)?..(what we kafirs end up in).

    This may seem ludicrous and far fetched to many, but looking at the lengths the west have gone to around the world in the last decade, is it only a matter of time until it comes to pass?

    • intelligentes candida diva

      With an attitude of resignation it will, but where there is a voice, freedoms of rights and respect which NZ has, there is a fight to the last stand and I am part of that fight for freedoms of rights and if all I can use is my voice or mind to write I will

  • sandalwood789

    Good on him!

    David Rankin is FAR more “onto it” with this than John Key is.

    Rankin for PM!

  • Adios Africa

    Islam is not going to further the rights of Maori women, and David Rankin sees this.

    • pak

      This Islam with its Sharia Law is utterly grotesque. It beggars belief that these people can behave in such a depraved way towards another human being.

      • sandalwood789

        Agreed.

        John Key really needs to get himself up-to-speed and learn about what Islam is *really* like.

        • pak

          I would be surprised if he wasn’t fully informed. The question for me is what he does about it.

          • KQ

            He wont do anything.

          • intelligentes candida diva

            One option request a vote of sorts given we still live in a land of democracy.

        • thehawkreturns

          He lowered the NZ flag for the Saudi murderer-King at the weekend.

      • thehawkreturns

        Remove them please.

    • MaryLou

      Can’t say I disagree with the sentiment, but it would still sit better with me if govt departments and maraes held just a little more respect for women, including quite senior women. Whenever a Maori opening (or otherwise) ceremony is performed, you’ll still find all the women at the back of the room and if you recall Helens’ wee debacle, often not allowed to speak.So womens’ rights yes, but would be nice in this day and age to see everyone catch up – culture or no culture!!

  • Catriona

    Yes, well, the ‘when in rome do as the Romans do’ is misunderstood by the Muslims here in NZ. The scary thing is that the NZ born Muslims will perpetuate this code of conduct and not realise or care for one iota that it is out of step with NZ Society.
    Good on you David. Make sure it happens at Waitangi.

  • Nz front

    If you see them in burqa’s, sing songs about pork or piglets.

    • Clifford Anderson

      better still offer them a straight swap the women for a goat. then we can free them from theyre oppression and hed be happy with his goat…haha

    • Florence

      Your stupidity is actually entertaining. As a Muslim I adore pigs, I was debating getting one as a pet because they are just so cute! I don’t eat them but hen again as a vegan I don’t eat anything with a heartbeat.

      • Nz front

        I bet you love the smell of your neighbours BBQ pork.

        • Florence

          Depends on what marinade they use I suppose. Not really a big fan of Garlic.

          • Nz front

            Free farmed pork tastes good, it’s good for soul. How do you intake your iron?

          • Florence

            I have been a vegetarian since I was ten and never had an issue with Iron (21 years later) Lots of salads and brown rice and whole grains and green juices. Not everyone’s cup of tea but as I run marathons every chance I get and teach Pilates and yoga I would say it’s working.

  • Dave

    Far Better idea, lets ban all trouble makers and those who have criminal convictions from Waitangi.

    Oops, that means almost no Harawhira’s
    Oops, half the others as well.

    Guess John Key will have to walk himself on to the marae.

  • J Ryan

    To come to these shores and have the cheek to ask Maori to alter their customs/ culture etc. in this day and age is very insulting. Its part of this land, accept it or book a flight back to the middle ages. Hell I don’t think many kiwi’s really like seeing the burqa, I mean it is a sign of suppression. Why don’t they give that up. Actually it’s pathetic. And I also remember going to a big pool park in Christchurch some years back. There was some area of the pool partitioned off to appease the burga wearers. I asked about it and on hearing the answer said that’s dam sickening. We kiwis accept people as they but to demand this kind of privilege says it all.

  • NoEyeDeer

    I’m not sure I agree with the tone of some of the comments on this topic. However the good thing about being in a democracy is that we can disagree on something and still be mates.
    So I am not going to reply to a comment in particular.

    I guess the main thing for me is that some people have accepted what Mr Rankin has stated and sided with him … the enemy of my enemy is my friend thinking.
    I’m sure Rankin has a some sort of point to make, but this would not be the first time he has raised controversial headlines in his name just to get some press.

    Seriously, how many Muslims go to Waitangi to celebrate the signing of an accord between two cultures? Would’nt that be inimical to the concept of Islam; we are the blessed everyone else is second class?
    I’ve been a few times and I can tell you there were no Burkas in sight.

    So it’s a safe bet Rankin has taken the topic du jour not to stand up and show the world that the Maori is against Islam but rather to get his name in the spotlights yet again come Waitangi Day.
    In which case, ‘meh’ I’m not impressed.

    And what is Rankin really trying to say … “We respect other cultures, but they have to understand that they must respect ours.” … and you do that by banning their culture?

    • fairymai

      Any culture, that subjugates women and girl children, need to be banned from NZ and all corners of the world, we need to speak louder and louder until we are understood.. and followed.

      • thehawkreturns

        Agree. I would vote for any party including the Greens if they agreed to call the Koran “hate speech” and the burka a symbol of oppression punishable by prison and deportation.

    • KiaOra

      Umm, muslims are turning up everywhere. Why not Waitangi?

  • Clifford Anderson

    good on him, all muslims follow the koran and its teachings, they are rapists of kids goat shaggers, women beaters, murderers,and have no respect for western culture, or any other culture but islam. they should be sent back to their holy land unless they turn theyre back on islam.

    • Not the same Chris

      Try reading genesis

  • Florence

    The racism and ignorance on here is actually astounding. As a Maori Muslim woman, I can tell you that most of the drivel on here is nothing more than a work of fiction. I am not married so no one forces me to dress this way, I choose it in the same manner you choose to wear what you do. I don’t care if you choose to wear a bikini to work and I really couldn’t care less that you disapprove of my outfit. I regularly attend the Marae and my children attend Kapa Haka, I even have a copy of the Quran in Maori. My faith and my culture are NOT mutually exclusive. I couldn’t care less if you want to eat Pork, it’s forbidden for me to eat it but if you think it offends me then I suggest you spend more time on Google researching instead of trolling websites. The truth of the matter is that most of these people are gutless, you want to hide behind your computer making uneducated comments but if you really want to know what a Muslim believes then just go and ask one, most of us are happy, open people who would be more than willing to sit down and have a chat with you.

52%