Sometimes you wonder where some people get their ideas from

Neville Gibson, editor at the NBR writes:

The assassinations of journalists and cartoonists at a satirical French newspaper will add to a wave of anti-Islamic feeling in Europe.

Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators have turned out in Paris, Lyons and other cities to defend freedom of speech and western democratic values against terrorism. In London, a demonstration has been held in Trafalgar Square.

The rallying call is “Je suis Charlie” (“I am Charlie”)  – a reference to President Kennedy’s speech at the Berlin Wall in the 1960s and to the name of the weekly Charlie Hebdo, whose offices were invaded by three hooded gunmen at 11.30am Parisian time on Wednesday.

Let’s start with his gutlessness at not calling things for what they are.

These were not “three hooded gunmen”….they were Islamic terrorists.

Look Neville, at what they did to a wounded gendarme.

There there is his inane explanation of what “Je suis Charlie” means.

Kennedy’s famous “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech has nothing whatsoever to do with “Je suis Charlie”.

Obviously Neville has never seen the movie Spartacus, or read about the legend of Spartacus, nor has he heard of the internet meme “I am Spartacus“.

Know your Meme explains:

The quote “I am Spartacus” is derived from the 1960 movie “Spartacus” directed by Stanley Kubrick and starring Kirk Douglas as the titular role. Near the end of the film, a Roman general announces to a group of former slaves that unsuccesfully fought againsts their rulers that unless Spartacus is turned over to them, all of the slaves will be crucified. Spartacus is then willing to turn himself in to protect his friends by standing up and proclaiming “I am Spartacus!”, but then the rest of the slaves show their loyalty to him by also proclaming that himself is Spartacus in great numbers. Since the general still doesn’t know who the real Spartacus is, all of the slaves are led to crucifixion.

Ich bin ein Berliner in a rather obtuse manner could possibly be used but the reality is on Twitter where the hashtag sprung up it is much more likely to have been the internet meme “I am Spartacus”.

 

– NBR

 


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  • Citizen

    Marine Le Pen, the leader of the Front National. Extreme Right Party (according to the extreme left) Made a speech today…the speech the Francois Holland should have made. She has taken the centre ground, and the French are gathering. Already several provincial elections in France have resulted in FN being elected to office.

    • conwaycaptain

      Le Pen will be Madame La Presidente then the EU, Euro and the Muslims better look out.
      She is anti the lot. If she gets in we will see the EU/Euro implode and she is also very anti free trade and France will become isolated in terms of trade etc.

      • Citizen

        The problem is her party’s economic policy will send France bankrupt!

        • They already are

          • Pete

            I was about to say, she can’t do much worse than the idiot in charge now !

      • Pete

        I have to point out that “She” is in fact, the face that represents a growing number of French people, Le Pen, along with Nigel Farrage in the UK are leading the charge, and I believe will soon have the majority of your normal average people voting for them. They are often described as extreme right wingers, or racist nationalists by MSM, in an attempt to slur them, but what these idiots in the media and liberal politicians dont realise is that by saying this, they are insulting the very people they are meant to represent.

        Personally, I want to see a wave of Nationalism sweep Europe, it needs it.

        • thehawkreturns

          It needs to come ASAP Pete.

        • Jas

          Watch Scandanavia follow also. There is starting to be a groundswell against paying 50%+ taxes and seeing others who pay nothing sponging.

        • Another Middleagedwhiteguy

          “They are often described as extreme right wingers, or racist nationalists” by MSM.

          And in doing so, the MSM are in fact defining themselves.
          When the vast majority are well to the right of the MSM (as in NZ) then by definition the MSM is not the middle.
          That they believe (and desperately try to convince others) that they are the inclusive moderate middle is entirely irrelevant.
          As well as false.

  • Valid Point

    Reading the UK papers today, Delingpole’s predictions are playing out. Already many commentators are blaming Western secularism and increasing racism in Europe for the problem.

    Sigh…

    • SkeptiK

      Yes. I have already seen a TV interview where the attractive young lady gets to say that this wasn’t representing Islam. Where are the journalists asking questions?

      1. Surely, according to the Quran, Charlie committed blasphemy? Is lampooning Mohammed not blasphemy?
      2. What is the prescribed punishment for blasphemy in the Quran and under Sharia law?
      3. Is it you or the gunman who doesn’t represent “true” Islam?

      • Nechtan

        Mohammed certainly had the rules sorted out for his religion:
        No insulting Mohammed………..death
        No leaving the religion……..death
        No changing of religion…..death
        No marrying outside the religion ………..death (esp women)
        No religion……death
        Won’t convert to Islam…..death
        etc…..
        After a few generations there aren’t many left who won’t tow the party line.

      • Bluemanning

        Aren’t they are allowed to lie to infidels in the name of, and to facilitate propagation of their religion.

  • In Vino Veritas

    Ich bin ein Berliner. I am a Berliner. Surely therefore would become “I am a Charlie”?

    • conwaycaptain

      Berliner apparently means a sausage or something the way JFK said and spelt it!!!!

      • twr

        It’s a kind of cake or baked good I believe.

      • SlightlyStrange

        It is a most delicious filled donut. Almost like a cronut in taste, filled with Jam or custard. The german bakery in Wellington does a most divine one. My waistline will thank me this year for no longer going past them on my way to uni lectures.

    • Reaper

      Yes, it is grammatically incorrect – should have been Ich bin Berliner. It is a source of amusement to Germans.

    • Skydog

      Ich bin ein Berliner = I am a jelly doughnut.

      Some say it was correct grammar some say it wasn’t.

    • Lance Ralph

      As i understand it, in echter Deutsch, one would say ‘Ich bin Berliner’.

      Ich bin ein Berliner would make you a kind of hamburger or a doughnut or else a beer with a shot of raspberry syrup – the Berliner Weiss.

      • In Vino Veritas

        I believe so Lance. Kennedy in fact made a mistake.

  • MrBarrington

    Neville Gibson has always been a pantywaist…

  • MrBarrington

    And as a general question can anyone recall when a policy of appeasement worked with murderous thugs? Because I can’t…

    • Another Middleagedwhiteguy

      Used to be bumper-stickers “Peace is a group effort”
      So much truer than the namby sticker-wearers could have imagined – it just needs one lot to not be part of the “group”, and voila – – no peace.

  • All_on_Red

    “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last”
    Winston Churchill

    • Another Middleagedwhiteguy

      He also described them as “Rats swimming out to a sinking ship”

  • Ghost

    Sounds like Neville is following in the foot steps of a Neville predecessor. Peace in our time?

  • Kevin

    Yep, just like I said: “Left wing journalists will run about warning of a “right-wing backlash” against innocent Muslims.”

  • Captain Darling

    Great info, I wondered about the meaning of “I am Charlie” now I know.

    • Chiefsfan73

      Agreed

  • la la land

    yes the proclamation “I am Charlie” means that we are all standing together in solidarity and just because you killed 12 people does not mean we will be silenced. I am charlie shows those nuts that we are all together in our defense of free speech. I am sure Kennedy meant the same thing but I am not sure this should be attributed to his speech.

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